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OfflinePatlal
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Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: * 2
    #19260207 - 12/11/13 01:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Why are they good at math?

They must be smarter or have a higher IQ right? Actually, Asians have similar IQ then whites, so it's not that. Intelligence is too vague to describe so we can't take that into consideration.

The answer is their languages. In English, french, german, spanish, russians etc. Numbers are long. Seven, two syllables. It's not ten one ten two, it eleven, twelve. But the suddenly it switch to thirteen, fourteen. The tens are at the end of the word, then suddenly it switches to twenty one, twenty two etc. the tens are in the beginning of the word. What I'm trying to say is that the of numbers is highly disorganized. Kids need to take the time to picture the numbers in their head in order to make the calculation.

In asian countries number are short, normally 2 or 3 letters long. They are extremely organised. They work on a ten-one ten-two. 57 = five-ten seven, 72 = seven-ten two. Asians kids pick up math faster than us because of that logic. its much easier to add three-ten-two + six-ten-three = nine-ten-five. They don't have to visualize the number in their heads because the language behind their numbers is extremely simple

Then comes the fraction, where most kids either start liking math or hating math (around 4th grade). We say two seventh (2/7). The chinese way of saying this translates to "You have 7 parts and you take 2". Much easier to grasp for kids. Apparently its so much simpler that by that point in school, European and american kids are 1 year behind compared to the Asians

Language is the reason Asians are better at math.


Why are they hard workers?

The answer is quite simple: rice. Asians work hard because of rice. You need more details? sure...

I think it's a well know fact that Asians countries eat lots of rice. The reason is that the weather there is ideal for rice. But the thing is, cultivating rice is a pain in the ass, it requires constant care, a proper set up, the right kind of rice, the right amount of water etc. On average ric farmers work 60 hours a week to keep things going, they have to dig a trench to bring the water in from the rivers, they have to build a dyke to keep the water at the right level, they need to keep the fertilizer at a right level etc. It a long and hard job. Plus the weather gives them only a couple months of winter which they use to repair and maintain their equipment. They never stop

Now compare this to european and american way of doing thing. We plant corn, wheat etc. We've been doing in for centuries. That kind of farming requires a rush in the spring and a rush at harvest time. After that, there's nothing more to do, plus the winter is long. We picture peasants back in the day working 100 hours a week just to survive. Well, the truth is, they only worked on average 25 hours a week. Back in the day, there are hundreds of town that literally shut down during winter. The population hibernated. They slept more, ate less. Human hibernation. No work, nothing to do for the entire winter.

Now do this for centuries to both cultures and you'll realize that the Asian culture is all work no play. Whereas European and American culture is less work, more play.

Rice forges a strong work ethic.


Why are they so crowded?

Guess what... it's rice too. Rice farms a very small and yield lots of foods. Therefore they can sustain a lot of people with very limited space. In cultures where crop farming is dominant, you need space... lots of it. Acres upon acres of land. If you want more crops, you need to invest in bigger tractors, more land etc. If you want to expand a rice farm, all you have to do in dig up a trench right next to your other farm ad you just doubled your production.

This abundance of rice can sustain a larger population and the size of rice farm and their high yeild meant that more people could live in a village and villages weren't separated by miles of farmland. So that encouraged Asian countries to have lots of kids and more kids meant more manpower for extra rice farms.

Crops on the other hand need to be carefully managed because once winter comes, what you harvested is all you're gonna have. So less people to share with is better, therefore less kids and lots of space between villages.



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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Patlal] * 10
    #19260227 - 12/11/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

How do you explain their shitty driving skills?


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Patlal]
    #19260232 - 12/11/13 01:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I am 1.2% Asian.

Not joking.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Patlal] * 7
    #19260243 - 12/11/13 01:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Nice cut and paste.  What illiterate idiot did you steal it from?


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #19260246 - 12/11/13 01:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Patlal said:
Why are they good at math?

They must be smarter or have a higher IQ right? Actually, Asians have similar IQ then whites, so it's not that. Intelligence is too vague to describe so we can't take that into consideration.

The answer is their languages.


Why are they hard workers?

The answer is quite simple: rice.


Why are they so crowded?

Guess what... it's rice too.



Sources please. Especially for the second one, which feels like a very weak conjecture. Also, for the first one, math is based on logic more than numbers.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: zappaisgod] * 2
    #19260252 - 12/11/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Nice cut and paste.  What illiterate idiot did you steal it from?




I wrote it all myself. Of course I based my conclusion of some researches.

Can't you just learn something without complaining?


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Patlal]
    #19260261 - 12/11/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I do not believe this, especially the part about math... even asains that grew up speaking english are still good at math.

Also I'm really good at math and I use the english number system and never have any problems.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: TrentBoyett] * 1
    #19260273 - 12/11/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Tldr but arguement to asians being math geniuses.... JEWS BOOM.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Patlal]
    #19260279 - 12/11/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
Why are they good at math?

They must be smarter or have a higher IQ right? Actually, Asians have similar IQ then whites, so it's not that. Intelligence is too vague to describe so we can't take that into consideration.

The answer is their languages. In English, french, german, spanish, russians etc. Numbers are long. Seven, two syllables. It's not ten one ten two, it eleven, twelve. But the suddenly it switch to thirteen, fourteen. The tens are at the end of the word, then suddenly it switches to twenty one, twenty two etc. the tens are in the beginning of the word. What I'm trying to say is that the of numbers is highly disorganized. Kids need to take the time to picture the numbers in their head in order to make the calculation.

In asian countries number are short, normally 2 or 3 letters long. They are extremely organised. They work on a ten-one ten-two. 57 = five-ten seven, 72 = seven-ten two. Asians kids pick up math faster than us because of that logic. its much easier to add three-ten-two + six-ten-three = nine-ten-five. They don't have to visualize the number in their heads because the language behind their numbers is extremely simple

Then comes the fraction, where most kids either start liking math or hating math (around 4th grade). We say two seventh (2/7). The chinese way of saying this translates to "You have 7 parts and you take 2". Much easier to grasp for kids. Apparently its so much simpler that by that point in school, European and american kids are 1 year behind compared to the Asians

Language is the reason Asians are better at math.


Why are they hard workers?

The answer is quite simple: rice. Asians work hard because of rice. You need more details? sure...

I think it's a well know fact that Asians countries eat lots of rice. The reason is that the weather there is ideal for rice. But the thing is, cultivating rice is a pain in the ass, it requires constant care, a proper set up, the right kind of rice, the right amount of water etc. On average ric farmers work 60 hours a week to keep things going, they have to dig a trench to bring the water in from the rivers, they have to build a dyke to keep the water at the right level, they need to keep the fertilizer at a right level etc. It a long and hard job. Plus the weather gives them only a couple months of winter which they use to repair and maintain their equipment. They never stop

Now compare this to european and american way of doing thing. We plant corn, wheat etc. We've been doing in for centuries. That kind of farming requires a rush in the spring and a rush at harvest time. After that, there's nothing more to do, plus the winter is long. We picture peasants back in the day working 100 hours a week just to survive. Well, the truth is, they only worked on average 25 hours a week. Back in the day, there are hundreds of town that literally shut down during winter. The population hibernated. They slept more, ate less. Human hibernation. No work, nothing to do for the entire winter.

Now do this for centuries to both cultures and you'll realize that the Asian culture is all work no play. Whereas European and American culture is less work, more play.

Rice forges a strong work ethic.


Why are they so crowded?

Guess what... it's rice too. Rice farms a very small and yield lots of foods. Therefore they can sustain a lot of people with very limited space. In cultures where crop farming is dominant, you need space... lots of it. Acres upon acres of land. If you want more crops, you need to invest in bigger tractors, more land etc. If you want to expand a rice farm, all you have to do in dig up a trench right next to your other farm ad you just doubled your production.

This abundance of rice can sustain a larger population and the size of rice farm and their high yeild meant that more people could live in a village and villages weren't separated by miles of farmland. So that encouraged Asian countries to have lots of kids and more kids meant more manpower for extra rice farms.

Crops on the other hand need to be carefully managed because once winter comes, what you harvested is all you're gonna have. So less people to share with is better, therefore less kids and lots of space between villages.



Food for thought right?




qouted for posteriority, the posterior you pulled that from, that is.



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People laughed and called that misguided and racist.

Did you smoke some herb before reaching these conclusions?


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Patlal]
    #19260288 - 12/11/13 01:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Nice theories. A bit simplistic, but I like the way of looking for a simple explanation. The ones you come up with seem pretty doubtful and easy to shoot holes into, but hey, that's the road to improvement.

Read some Jared Diamond, I think you'll like his books.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Patlal]
    #19260302 - 12/11/13 01:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Nice cut and paste.  What illiterate idiot did you steal it from?




I wrote it all myself. Of course I based my conclusion of some researches.

Can't you just learn something without complaining?




There was nothing to learn there and it was barely English.  Here's how you write 21 in English:  21.  Is that too long for you?  Also, rice is a crop.  That you have to flood huge areas to produce.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19260325 - 12/11/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Rice forges a strong work ethic




trololololll


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19260327 - 12/11/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well our ancestors were lazy wheat-farmers, so what do we know?


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: NWlight]
    #19260332 - 12/11/13 02:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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NWlight said:
Quote:

Rice forges a strong work ethic




trololololll





Don't you see? Black athletes are ahead because of genetics and Asians are ahead because of rice :cookiemonster:


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Asante]
    #19260373 - 12/11/13 02:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Don't you see? Black athletes are ahead because of genetics and Asians are ahead because of rice :cookiemonster:



One of them statements are actually true.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Asante]
    #19260381 - 12/11/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:happyclaps:
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    #19260393 - 12/11/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You guys can shit all over this if you want. I don't care

I try to bring intelligent discussion to the Pub, that's all.

Feel free to go to the "I took 2N-24js-bome" threads.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Patlal]
    #19260402 - 12/11/13 02:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
You guys can shit all over this if you want. I don't care

I try to bring intelligent discussion to the Pub, that's all.

Feel free to go to the "I took 2N-24js-bome" threads.




I honestly enjoyed your post


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #19260416 - 12/11/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Patlal] * 4
    #19260425 - 12/11/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

How is this trying to spark intelligent discussion? It's just border line racist.

If I were to write paragraphs about why black people hate to swim and "intelligently" relate it to crocodiles and shit in the nile I would be hung and lynched by the some of the members here.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #19260428 - 12/11/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Because I am Half-Chinese Half-British, grew up in Hong Kong, went to a local Chinese school for eight years, then went to an international American school for High School. I'm in Canada now, and I know a great deal about Western and East-Asian cultures.

It's not about IQ, or language, or whatever, though you can say they play certain factors, they are certainly not as major as the following:

Western cultures adopt an individualist way of life, while most Asian cultures adopt a collectivist way of life. People growing up in an Asian culture-dominant environment tend to be less rebellious, more hard-working, but less able to think critically and innovate. It is the exact opposite in Western cultures.

Obviously, this is a vast generalization. But so is the generalization that Asians are good at math, they have small dicks, etc lol.

EDIT:

Those of you who are Asian and are planning on arguing back and saying "no i can think critically im not stupid", please take this with a grain of salt. Obviously, if you are on this forum and able to communicate with perfectly fine English you have received some form of Westernization. You weren't/aren't completely submerged in an Asian cultured environment. Nor am I even saying that Asian cultured people are stupid.


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    #19260436 - 12/11/13 02:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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How do you explain their shitty driving skills?




The Japanese are some of the most skilled drivers I've ever seen. Way better than Americans.


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    #19260439 - 12/11/13 02:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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How is this trying to spark intelligent discussion? It's just border line racist.




Looking for explanations of differences in regional development is racist? Nice world you're living in.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #19260454 - 12/11/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

Patlal said:
You guys can shit all over this if you want. I don't care

I try to bring intelligent discussion to the Pub, that's all.

Feel free to go to the "I took 2N-24js-bome" threads.




I honestly enjoyed your post



I agree. I guess people feel more inclined to post a reply if they disagree.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: 28064212]
    #19260489 - 12/11/13 02:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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28064212 said:
I am 1.2% Asian.

Not joking.



Quote:

28064212 said:
I am 1.2% Asian.

Not joking.



Quote:

28064212 said:
I am 1.2% Asian.

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    #19260520 - 12/11/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Cool to read mate. Nice to think about and don't worry its not racist. Things are what they are, just keep hatred away:peace: Sounds like its simple science to me...:thumbup:

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    #19260530 - 12/11/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
You guys can shit all over this if you want. I don't care

I try to bring intelligent discussion to the Pub, that's all.

Feel free to go to the "I took 2N-24js-bome" threads.



It's great to look at the world around you and try to understand the reasons things are the way they are.
The problem here isn't that, or even that you offer very one-dimensional causes for complex, nuanced differences, but that you jump to conclusions and then present them as "facts" that we should learn from.


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    #19260576 - 12/11/13 02:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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KremrBigSikter said:
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Patlal said:
You guys can shit all over this if you want. I don't care

I try to bring intelligent discussion to the Pub, that's all.

Feel free to go to the "I took 2N-24js-bome" threads.



It's great to look at the world around you and try to understand the reasons things are the way they are.
The problem here isn't that, or even that you offer very one-dimensional causes for complex, nuanced differences, but that you jump to conclusions and then present them as "facts" that we should learn from.




Its just to show the importance of the cultural background of a country.

I could post a lot more stuff than what I just wrote but I won't. I never said it was a fact, but this comes from several studies and research of social behavior and background. I'm not saying that it's just what I wrote that explains the entire thing. But its most definitely a big part of it.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Patlal]
    #19260595 - 12/11/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If this is true then why are english speaking asains still good at math?


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19260599 - 12/11/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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    #19260601 - 12/11/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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How is this trying to spark intelligent discussion? It's just border line racist.

If I were to write paragraphs about why black people hate to swim and "intelligently" relate it to crocodiles and shit in the nile I would be hung and lynched by the some of the members here.




I don't really see him saying that there are ingrained biological factors here, just cultural and environmental ones, which I don't think is really racist.  It is overly simplistic though, Asia is so huge and there are so many different cultures from Mongolians herders to Tibetan Buddhists to Chinese billionaires to Muslims.

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Well our ancestors were lazy wheat-farmers, so what do we know?




I think a good portion of traditional caucausians were warrior cultures that would maybe fish/farm/herd a bit but also would raid more productive areas to the south.  This lead them to think they were superior based on the idea that might is right, but you could also look at them as more parasitic to humanity as a whole, which certainly isn't admirable. 

So in my thinking the reason "white" people are so good at imperialism is that they come from more inhospitable places where they have to steal to get by.  I'm pretty sure that the genetic code which causes a distinct lack of melanin evolved due to certain nutritional deficits.


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    #19260625 - 12/11/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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How do you explain their shitty driving skills?




The Japanese are some of the most skilled drivers I've ever seen. Way better than Americans.




I was trying to bait the OP into offering his "explanation", it appears he has been discouraged about the path this thread has taken.


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    #19260635 - 12/11/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This is all bullshit.

The reason asians are good at math is because their parents will cut their hands off if they receive a B in school.

I hate this misguided (there's an environmental reason for everything!) circular logic.

I've seen plenty of asians who were absolute retards when it came to basic math.  Difference?  Their parent's smoked pot.


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    #19260641 - 12/11/13 02:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Their parent's smoked pot.



theres no way this could be true cause asians don't smoke pot they pick rice thats why they are good at math :derp:


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    #19260652 - 12/11/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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    #19260653 - 12/11/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I think a good portion of traditional caucausians were warrior cultures that would maybe fish/farm/herd a bit but also would raid more productive areas to the south.  This lead them to think they were superior based on the idea that might is right, but you could also look at them as more parasitic to humanity as a whole, which certainly isn't admirable. 

So in my thinking the reason "white" people are so good at imperialism is that they come from more inhospitable places where they have to steal to get by.  I'm pretty sure that the genetic code which causes a distinct lack of melanin evolved due to certain nutritional deficits.



You can't have whole societies that depend on stealing, though. The huns and mongols did it, but they had to expand their empires and they eventually collapsed, as plunder isn't a renewable resource.
I can't think of a pre-colonial point in history where a significant amount of caucasians were dependant on raiding and stealing from non-caucasians.


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    #19260669 - 12/11/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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How is this trying to spark intelligent discussion? It's just border line racist.

If I were to write paragraphs about why black people hate to swim and "intelligently" relate it to crocodiles and shit in the nile I would be hung and lynched by the some of the members here.




I don't really see him saying that there are ingrained biological factors here, just cultural and environmental ones, which I don't think is really racist.  It is overly simplistic though, Asia is so huge and there are so many different cultures from Mongolians herders to Tibetan Buddhists to Chinese billionaires to Muslims.

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Well our ancestors were lazy wheat-farmers, so what do we know?




I think a good portion of traditional caucausians were warrior cultures that would maybe fish/farm/herd a bit but also would raid more productive areas to the south.  This lead them to think they were superior based on the idea that might is right, but you could also look at them as more parasitic to humanity as a whole, which certainly isn't admirable. 

So in my thinking the reason "white" people are so good at imperialism is that they come from more inhospitable places where they have to steal to get by.  I'm pretty sure that the genetic code which causes a distinct lack of melanin evolved due to certain nutritional deficits.




"but you could also look at them as more parasitic to humanity as a whole, which certainly isn't admirable."

Really, being smart and innovative enough to develop weapons and war plans is not admirable?  It was conquer or be conquered, only the strong survive, maybe you just hate white culture, history, and people.

"lack of melanin evolved due to certain nutritional deficits."

Source?


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    #19260677 - 12/11/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Why are they good at math?

They must be smarter or have a higher IQ right? Actually, Asians have similar IQ then whites, so it's not that. Intelligence is too vague to describe so we can't take that into consideration.

The answer is their languages.


Why are they hard workers?

The answer is quite simple: rice.


Why are they so crowded?

Guess what... it's rice too.



Sources please. Especially for the second one, which feels like a very weak conjecture. Also, for the first one, math is based on logic more than numbers.



Meh. The structure of language is important to human cognition. We actually think by speaking to ourselves in our native language. When numbers have weird structures in the language, you could handicap its speakers - think about the French. Think about OP and this retarded thread

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This is all bullshit.

The reason asians are good at math is because their parents will cut their hands off if they receive a B in school.

I hate this misguided (there's an environmental reason for everything!) circular logic.

I've seen plenty of asians who were absolute retards when it came to basic math.  Difference?  Their parent's smoked pot.



Yeah. Nurture. Nature is important when you are talking about individuals,. It doesn't really apply to entire populations. That us culture, ie nurture.


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You can't have whole societies that depend on stealing, though. The huns and mongols did it, but they had to expand their empires and they eventually collapsed, as plunder isn't a renewable resource.
I can't think of a pre-colonial point in history where a significant amount of caucasians were dependant on raiding and stealing from non-caucasians.




Vikings


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    #19260693 - 12/11/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You can't have whole societies that depend on stealing, though. The huns and mongols did it, but they had to expand their empires and they eventually collapsed, as plunder isn't a renewable resource.
I can't think of a pre-colonial point in history where a significant amount of caucasians were dependant on raiding and stealing from non-caucasians.




Vikings




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    #19260711 - 12/11/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The Vikings were equal opportunity pillagers.


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    #19260727 - 12/11/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This thread :lol:. I'm not gonna get into it but I completely disagree and I, like the others here, find your reasoning pretty absurd.

As for the topic though, in my opinion, the reason asians excel at math and science while the west lags is because asian culture values and admires exceptionalism. In modern US culture, we tend to demonize those better than ourselves due to jealousy/insecurity. Im sure you've felt it or seen it in those around you. When someone is better off in some way we hold a sort of disdain or animosity towards them.

Their priorities are just different (and probably more healthy) than ours. Their top students are revered by his/her peers. Our top students are just loser nerds.

Disclaimer: this is just a broad generalization, looking at cultural tendencies i've observed. By no means do I mean to imply that this mentality is universal.


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    #19260733 - 12/11/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I liked it OP do you study anthropology? Epigenetic traits can be passed down I believe there is some credibility to your thread. I'd like to see some more info on it.


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    #19260737 - 12/11/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well, for those who are willing to believe that what I wrote might just be true after all, you should read the following:

For the math point: The Number Sense: How the Mind Create Mathematics, by Stanilase Dehaene, Oxford University

For the farming aspect of European peasants: The Agrarian History of Western Europe, by B.H Slitcher and Antoine Lavoisier

For the math point: Predictors of National Differences in Mathematics and Science Acheivements of Eighth Grade Students: Data from the TIMSS for the Six NationEducational Research Programs, by Erling E. Boe, Henry May, Gena Barkanic and Robert F Beruch, University of Pennsylvania

More on rice: The Rice Economics: Technology and Development of Asian Societies, by Francesca Bray, University of California.


Like I said, I didn't pull this out of my ass. I'm not claiming to be 100% right. But I am most definitely right based on many studies. I read stuff, more than just fiction. Occasionally you learn stuff. I just tried to give you guys a summary so you don't have to read all the studies and books I listed above.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: KremrBigSikter]
    #19260741 - 12/11/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I can't think of a pre-colonial point in history where a significant amount of caucasians were dependant on raiding and stealing from non-caucasians.




Well yeah, I guess that was probably before people took race so seriously, but the general trend was raiding parties come from the less hospitable north.  Medeterainian countries for example are gonna be heavily mixed race-wise even though we think of them as white.

Its just an idea.  I think it is stupid and confusing to try and make broad generalizations about people based on black and white, and thats not what I'm trying to do.  I'm just bored I guess, same as OP.


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    #19260743 - 12/11/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The Vikings were equal opportunity pillagers.


Sure. They were also dairy farmers. Most people weren't pirates, but if you live in the anglosphere I guess you learn history from an english perspective and only see them as raiders.

All this is kind of beside the point though, as moonrocks argued that caucasians as a group were good at being efficient colonizers because of their history of believing in might-makes-right and their plundering tradition. I'm wondering when in history the spanish, portuguese and english were famous for their stealing.

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Its just an idea.  I think it is stupid and confusing to try and make broad generalizations about people based on black and white, and thats not what I'm trying to do.  I'm just bored I guess, same as OP.



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    #19260744 - 12/11/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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    #19260748 - 12/11/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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How do you explain their shitty driving skills?




Only old Asian people suck at driving (ever notice young kids such as ricers have skillers?). It's because the older ones are immigrants and immigrants don't know how to drive, and Asians have terrible peripheral vision once they get old.


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    #19260761 - 12/11/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Well, for those who are willing to believe that what I wrote might just be true after all, you should read the following:

For the math point: The Number Sense: How the Mind Create Mathematics, by Stanilase Dehaene, Oxford University

For the farming aspect of European peasants: The Agrarian History of Western Europe, by B.H Slitcher and Antoine Lavoisier

For the math point: Predictors of National Differences in Mathematics and Science Acheivements of Eighth Grade Students: Data from the TIMSS for the Six NationEducational Research Programs, by Erling E. Boe, Henry May, Gena Barkanic and Robert F Beruch, University of Pennsylvania

More on rice: The Rice Economics: Technology and Development of Asian Societies, by Francesca Bray, University of California.


Like I said, I didn't pull this out of my ass. I'm not claiming to be 100% right. But I am most definitely right based on many studies. I read stuff, more than just fiction. Occasionally you learn stuff. I just tried to give you guys a summary so you don't have to read all the studies and books I listed above.




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    #19260791 - 12/11/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I post references and then everybody stops posting. interesting.


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    #19260793 - 12/11/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You might like this vid OP. I found it convincing. It would be my solution to fixing our numbering system.



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    #19260799 - 12/11/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

They're busy reading the books :P


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    #19260800 - 12/11/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

No we are all running to the library so we can read The Rice Economics: Technology and Development of Asian Societies and The Agrarian History of Western Europe. brb


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    #19260807 - 12/11/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

english is the best language

wish japan had won the war so they could have phased out chinese as well


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    #19260814 - 12/11/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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They're busy reading the books :P



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No we are all running to the library so we can read The Rice Economics: Technology and Development of Asian Societies and The Agrarian History of Western Europe. brb




I completely understand that none of you want to read this. Most people wouldn't either. Hence my summary


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"but you could also look at them as more parasitic to humanity as a whole, which certainly isn't admirable."

Really, being smart and innovative enough to develop weapons and war plans is not admirable?  It was conquer or be conquered, only the strong survive, maybe you just hate white culture, history, and people.

"lack of melanin evolved due to certain nutritional deficits."

Source?




Yes.  I hate the idea of white culture because I think the idea is racist from the start.  I am no more culturally connected to someone based on their skin tone.  I hate reckless imperialism and the fact that racism continues to be used to justify it.

Melanin is synthesized by amino acids (tyrosine).  I don't think anybody knows but it has been theorized that conserving amino acids in lean times is a reason behind the evolution of white skin.  I'm not going to dig up a source but I read it in a Nat'l Geographic or science mag.


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Dude watch the vid I posted!


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    #19260836 - 12/11/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Dude watch the vid I posted!




It doesn't work, I'll need the link, but before, is it about base 12 math by any chance? If so, don't bother posting the link, I saw it.


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Yeah it's about using base 12.


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Yeah it's about using base 12.




:wink:

I agree that it would make math better, but we are so used to base 10 math that implementing base 12 would confuse everybody and would create a big culture shock between the first generation of base 12 and the rest of the base 10 world


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"but you could also look at them as more parasitic to humanity as a whole, which certainly isn't admirable."

Really, being smart and innovative enough to develop weapons and war plans is not admirable?  It was conquer or be conquered, only the strong survive, maybe you just hate white culture, history, and people.

"lack of melanin evolved due to certain nutritional deficits."

Source?




Yes.  I hate the idea of white culture because I think the idea is racist from the start.  I am no more culturally connected to someone based on their skin tone.  I hate reckless imperialism and the fact that racism continues to be used to justify it.

Melanin is synthesized by amino acids (tyrosine).  I don't think anybody knows but it has been theorized that conserving amino acids in lean times is a reason behind the evolution of white skin.  I'm not going to dig up a source but I read it in a Nat'l Geographic or science mag.




"I hate the idea of white culture because I think the idea is racist from the start."

Why?  Do you think Negro, Mexican, and Asian culture is racist from the start?


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If this is true then why are english speaking asains still good at math?










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    #19260896 - 12/11/13 03:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Negro, racist.  Mexican, ok, its a nationality which doesn't regard "race".  Asian culture, too general to really mean anything.

Why is because race is just stupid and used for selfish ends by weak fearful people.


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    #19260923 - 12/11/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Why?  Do you think Negro, Mexican, and Asian culture is racist from the start?



Mexico and Asia are places, not skin colours.
I don't see a problem with the concept of "white culture" in a historical perspective, where white people lived among white people, interacted mostly with white people, and culture didn't spread very far. It would be a very wide concept, as white people from one part of the historical white-populated world would have a different culture from people from somewhere else, but the same goes for equally wide concepts like "asian culture".
In the modern world, "white culture" or "black culture" are virtually meaningless, and possibly racist depending on how they're used.


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    #19260943 - 12/11/13 03:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You guys can shit all over this if you want. I don't care

I try to bring intelligent discussion to the Pub, that's all.

Feel free to go to the "I took 2N-24js-bome" threads.



it's kinda sad how bad the pub is these days. i mean, just dribbling :tard:'s running around talking about nothing.

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    #19260986 - 12/11/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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If this is true then why are english speaking asains still good at math?













Perhaps because of their cultural inheritance and genes.

I didn't study the question yet.

Do you know for for a fact that english speaking asians (that haven't learned any asian languages) are all better then their counterparts or are you limiting the subject pool to the people you have met??


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    #19261046 - 12/11/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

People I know, went to school with, heard about, etc...

Not a big group of people, probably ~20, but they're smarter than pretty much any 20 white people I know...


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    #19261137 - 12/11/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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People I know, went to school with, heard about, etc...

Not a big group of people, probably ~20, but they're smarter than pretty much any 20 white people I know...




I assume its parental pressure.

Ask them if they are happy at home or if they are afraid to confront their parents (which is most likely because most asian country score high on the Hofstede's PDI index)


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    #19261150 - 12/11/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Has anyone answered yet why Asians are such awful drivers?


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    #19261231 - 12/11/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Has anyone answered yet why Asians are such awful drivers?




I already posted, and they aren't. Young ricer racers for example, have superb driving skills, better than a New York taxi cab driver.

Older Asians are the ones known for bad driving, and it's because they are immigrants. Immigrants don't know how to drive. Americans for example, would find it way harder to drive in Japan or China. Millions of pedestrians, super tiny narrow streets, tiny parking spots... Your average American would flip shit and probably crash into something within the first hour of driving.

Also because as Asians get old, their peripheral vision deteriorates.


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    #19261239 - 12/11/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Interesting story: I actually taught at least three of my white male friends how to parallel park. I can't believe I have friends who drive something as big as a TRUCK and haven't even figured out within their years of driving how to operate their vehicle. :facepalm:


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    #19261281 - 12/11/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Has anyone answered yet why Asians are such awful drivers?




I already posted, and they aren't. Young ricer racers for example, have superb driving skills, better than a New York taxi cab driver.

Older Asians are the ones known for bad driving, and it's because they are immigrants. Immigrants don't know how to drive. Americans for example, would find it way harder to drive in Japan or China Millions of pedestrians, super tiny narrow streets, tiny parking s0pots... Your average American would flip shit and probably crash into something within the first hour of driving.

Also because as Asians get old, their peripheral vision deteriorates.




Very true. I couldn't imagine driving around London, let alone Japan.


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    #19261533 - 12/11/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I love driving in Asia, mostly because I find the drivers to be far more situationally aware than drivers in North America. They're very good on their motorbikes, too.

There's nothing like riding a mountain road in the pissing rain, white knuckled on the bars and fearing imminent death, only to be passed on the inside by a group of 4 laughing schoolgirls on a scooter, texting and eating lunch whilst wearing filp flops, long skirts and no helmets.


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    #19262571 - 12/11/13 08:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I love driving in Asia, mostly because I find the drivers to be far more situationally aware than drivers in North America. They're very good on their motorbikes, too.

There's nothing like riding a mountain road in the pissing rain, white knuckled on the bars and fearing imminent death, only to be passed on the inside by a group of 4 laughing schoolgirls on a scooter, texting and eating lunch whilst wearing filp flops, long skirts and no helmets.




Based on the videos I've seen from India, I wouldn't want to drive there. It's insane.


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    #19262770 - 12/11/13 09:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Interesting story: I actually taught at least three of my white male friends how to parallel park. I can't believe I have friends who drive something as big as a TRUCK and haven't even figured out within their years of driving how to operate their vehicle. :facepalm:




I'm the best parallel parker. If it were a sport, I would win the gold. People stop on the street to watch me at work.


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    #19262816 - 12/11/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I believe that the morphosyntactic characteristics of  several east asian languages have the potential to lead to increased cognitive performance for early-developmental neurolinguistic feedback/feedforward reasons.

Having said that, I also believe in America we have a tendency to believe that the Asian race as a whole is more intelligent than it actually is because of the Asians we are exposed to. As a Chinese person once put it to me, "There are plenty of stupid Chinese people. They stayed in China."


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    #19262850 - 12/11/13 09:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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morfosintactic



that's not a real word!1 :crankey:



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http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morfosintaxis




:awenuhuh:




:tongue2: PS: i think you'd be happy with the fact that i connoted to their linguistics being a big reason that might "Be better at math"; because a culture's language informs everything a culture does.

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    #19262857 - 12/11/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

lol duh my bad, it's morphosyntactic in english, i learn all this stuff in spanish


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    #19262862 - 12/11/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

LOLOLOLOL fuck you for being all lingual and stuff!1 :kingcrankey:

(learns about lingual concepts in Spanish: is English. you smart-ass mamajama you :tongue: damn, how you do dat? don't answer that :lol: )


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    #19263142 - 12/11/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hard words are hard...


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    #19263245 - 12/11/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think this was a very cool read.
I had to learn basic japanese for my martial arts class, and it was super easy. Once you learn to count to ten, you can already count to a hundred.


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Hard words are hard...



sorry for de-railing, Patlal, thought there was a clear path from Chinese number symbology to Chinese language.

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    #19263880 - 12/12/13 12:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

somebody rode their bike in the rain with the visor not down

said they were getting pelted in the face by raindrops, he was a black guy his eyes were all open and shit:lol:


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I think this was a very cool read.
I had to learn basic japanese for my martial arts class, and it was super easy. Once you learn to count to ten, you can already count to a hundred.



learning to conjugate chinese verbs correctly is ridiculously hard


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    #19265575 - 12/12/13 12:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Oh I know. I was saying numbers were somewhat easy. The language itself is ludicrously hard.
My uncle is fluent in mandarin. It took him 5 years of living in china to get it.


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    #19266261 - 12/12/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I believe that the morphosyntactic characteristics of  several east asian languages have the potential to lead to increased cognitive performance for early-developmental neurolinguistic feedback/feedforward reasons.

Having said that, I also believe in America we have a tendency to believe that the Asian race as a whole is more intelligent than it actually is because of the Asians we are exposed to. As a Chinese person once put it to me, "There are plenty of stupid Chinese people. They stayed in China."



:rofl2:

This hearkens to something I tell people who say we don't build houses as well as we used to.  We build them better now.  The ones that were built poorly back in the day have already fallen down.


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    #19266275 - 12/12/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I believe that the morphosyntactic characteristics of  several east asian languages have the potential to lead to increased cognitive performance for early-developmental neurolinguistic feedback/feedforward reasons.

Having said that, I also believe in America we have a tendency to believe that the Asian race as a whole is more intelligent than it actually is because of the Asians we are exposed to. As a Chinese person once put it to me, "There are plenty of stupid Chinese people. They stayed in China."



:rofl2:

This hearkens to something I tell people who say we don't build houses as well as we used to.  We build them better now.  The ones that were built poorly back in the day have already fallen down.




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OP I'm assuming you have read 'Outliers' by Malcolm Gladwell, correct?


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    #19266348 - 12/12/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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OP I'm assuming you have read 'Outliers' by Malcolm Gladwell, correct?




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    #19266440 - 12/12/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I believe that the morphosyntactic characteristics of  several east asian languages have the potential to lead to increased cognitive performance for early-developmental neurolinguistic feedback/feedforward reasons.

Having said that, I also believe in America we have a tendency to believe that the Asian race as a whole is more intelligent than it actually is because of the Asians we are exposed to. As a Chinese person once put it to me, "There are plenty of stupid Chinese people. They stayed in China."



:rofl2:




It's true. I've met a lot of young and dumb Japanese kids who never went to college, and will probably be working as waiters in restaurants their whole lives.

I remember there was a TV show in Japan (and TV there is nothing like American TV, it's not a bunch of BS and hype to try to get ratings, most of what's on basic TV is news and documentary-style stuff and cooking channels). So some TV interviewers/reporters were going around asking random teenagers and young adults on the streets questions about history, about the world, questions that everybody should know. Questions about World War II, and the Korean War, and who reigned over Edo period, and what province is Kyoto considered a part of, why the Ainu population went extinct, etc.

This is stuff that every common Japanese person should know by the way, it's the equivalent of asking what president was in charge during the Civil War and shit. I was flabbergasted by some of the answers, some of the Japanese kids were like, "What, there was a Korean war? The Japanese people did what to the Ainu people? Who the heck is Yukio Mishima?" (and saying you don't know Yukio Mishima in Japan is like saying you don't know Kafka or Steinbeck.)

Unfortunately, these are the children of modern capitalism. They are too busy paying attention to their cell phones, nightclubs, and fashion rather than paying attention about the arts or literature or history.

However, I should note, that while there ARE dumb Asians in Asia, Asian countries still rank in the top for IQ numbers and grades in math and science. Why do you think all the engineering jobs get outsourced to India and China?
http://www.photius.com/rankings/national_iq_scores_country_ranks.html


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    #19266457 - 12/12/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I think this was a very cool read.
I had to learn basic japanese for my martial arts class, and it was super easy. Once you learn to count to ten, you can already count to a hundred.




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    #19266465 - 12/12/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Interesting story: I actually taught at least three of my white male friends how to parallel park. I can't believe I have friends who drive something as big as a TRUCK and haven't even figured out within their years of driving how to operate their vehicle. :facepalm:




I'm the best parallel parker. If it were a sport, I would win the gold. People stop on the street to watch me at work.





You could actually drive in Japan very well. You have to squeeze through the tiniest places imaginable and dodge pedestrians like a motherfucker.


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    #19266483 - 12/12/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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COOL. thanks, dude guy. will check out.

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I believe that the morphosyntactic characteristics of  several east asian languages have the potential to lead to increased cognitive performance for early-developmental neurolinguistic feedback/feedforward reasons.

Having said that, I also believe in America we have a tendency to believe that the Asian race as a whole is more intelligent than it actually is because of the Asians we are exposed to. As a Chinese person once put it to me, "There are plenty of stupid Chinese people. They stayed in China."



:rofl2:




It's true. I've met a lot of young and dumb Japanese kids who never went to college, and will probably be working as waiters in restaurants their whole lives.

I remember there was a TV show in Japan (and TV there is nothing like American TV, it's not a bunch of BS and hype to try to get ratings, most of what's on basic TV is news and documentary-style stuff and cooking channels). So some TV interviewers/reporters were going around asking random teenagers and young adults on the streets questions about history, about the world, questions that everybody should know. Questions about World War II and the Korean War who reigned over Edo period and what province is Kyoto considered a part of, why the Ainu population went extinct, etc.

This is stuff that every common Japanese person should know by the way, it's the equivalent of asking what president was in charge during the Civil War and shit. I was flabbergasted by some of the answers, some of the Japanese kids were like, "What, there was a Korean war? The Japanese people did what to the Ainu people? Who the heck is Yukio Mishima?" (and saying you don't know Yukio Mishima is like saying you don't know Kafka or Steinbeck.)

Unfortunately, these are the children of modern capitalism. They are too busy paying attention to their cell phones, nightclubs, and fashion rather than paying attention about the arts or literature or history.

However, I should note, that while there ARE dumb Asians in Asia, Asian countries still rank in the top for IQ numbers and grades in math and science. Why do you think all the engineering jobs get outsourced to India and China?
http://www.photius.com/rankings/national_iq_scores_country_ranks.html



Did you not notice the rest of my post?

I loved Mishima, fucking nutcase that he was.


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    #19266690 - 12/12/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yea I wasn't responding to you though, but the person that you responded to.


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You obviously didn't have to read and write any kanji.




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Yea I wasn't responding to you though, but the person that you responded to.



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I loved Mishima, fucking nutcase that he was.



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    #19267354 - 12/12/13 07:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You guys can shit all over this if you want. I don't care

I try to bring intelligent discussion to the Pub, that's all.

Feel free to go to the "I took 2N-24js-bome" threads.




I honestly enjoyed your post




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    #19267384 - 12/12/13 07:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yeah, people here are to quick to jump on the hate wagon. with the effort that was put into the post, that alone should have at least made it worth the read, IF one did ACTUALLY read it... otherwise... how stupid can it possibly be? i say the person should make as a extended and poignant reading post, if you wanna judge.


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    #19267435 - 12/12/13 07:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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this too, thanks G.



also, if you can find a copy of it for cheap, this will help explain my original post



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    #19267535 - 12/12/13 07:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i'm an idiot, i don't read really good books enough... the only book i've ever all the way through and not for school (other then the Giver LOL Giver) waaassss... Siddartha; which was a great book, but i read it in random order by chapter, sorta like some book of Koens or something... so it doesn't really count as a full read, in talking "context"...

the first reads i'm going to dive in like a fool is Republic by Plato (a friend of mine is reading that now) and The Divine Comedy (always wanted to read that, and i already know what translation i am getting)

but after that my world is WIDE OPEN for new books. some on language would be just great. i enjoy Cultural Anthropology and Linguistics (ever since i played Riven: Sequel To Myst i've always, since then, loved Linguistics) so that is a long derived nesting egg of mine.

plus, after some of my first reads, i wanna also get a book on Monoculture; a very fascinating subject. any good books to recommend, dude?


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    #19267647 - 12/12/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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yeah, people here are to quick to jump on the hate wagon. with the effort that was put into the post, that alone should have at least made it worth the read, IF one did ACTUALLY read it... otherwise... how stupid can it possibly be? i say the person should make as a extended and poignant reading post, if you wanna judge.




the shroomery is the biggest group of haters I've met. It's incredibly cool to hate things around here.


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Yukio Mishima





this too, thanks G.




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    #19267690 - 12/12/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yeah I give the OP credit for actually theorizing about this kind of stuff at least, even if his theories are off the mark


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    #19267744 - 12/12/13 08:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Je ne suis pas d'accord avec toi (Patlal) pour l'entièreté de ton post car tu vas trop dans l'absolu, mais je pense que celui-ci contient des éléments de réponses intéressants qui seraient à explorer.

:raisemyglass:


Also, its funny how nobody mentioned the arab/turkish world in regard to mathematics.

Where do you think the word algebra come from?


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    #19267754 - 12/12/13 08:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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yeah I give the OP credit for actually theorizing about this kind of stuff at least, even if his theories are off the mark



yeah, i mean, he was only trying to spark an intelligent conversation; plus, it wasn't about politics!1 YAY!


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Its funny how nobody mentioned the arab/turkish world in regard to mathematics.

Where do you think the word algebra come from?


Je ne suis pas d'accord avec toi (Patlal) pour l'entièreté de ton post car tu vas trop dans l'absolu, mais je pense que celui-ci contient des éléments de réponses intéressants qui seraient à explorer. :raisemyglass:


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    #19267810 - 12/12/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What i meant is nobody mentioned the potential of the other languages (arabic in that case) to generate strong abilities in mathematics.


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    #19267819 - 12/12/13 08:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

OP was about Asians. :shrug: i get what you meant, dude... i just thought, why not take it farther? why not give the Egyptians props too?


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    #19267946 - 12/12/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

OP can only count to 69.


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    #19268701 - 12/12/13 11:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Perhaps Asians might appear to be better at math because that region of the world has a major percentage of the world's population? Therefore there might be a higher ratio of people that are better at math than the rest of the world? That might be a factor for the stereotype about Asians being so good at mathematics.

If North America had such populations of people, it could be the same kind of thing.

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    #19268709 - 12/12/13 11:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Perhaps Asians might appear to be better at math because that region of the world has a major percentage of the world's population? Therefore there might be a higher ratio of people that are better at math than the rest of the world? That might be a factor for the stereotype about Asians being so good at mathematics.

If North America had such populations of people, it could be the same kind of thing.

Just a thought.




I'm guessing you're not Asian.


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    #19269047 - 12/13/13 01:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Nice theories. A bit simplistic, but I like the way of looking for a simple explanation. The ones you come up with seem pretty doubtful and easy to shoot holes into, but hey, that's the road to improvement.

Read some Jared Diamond, I think you'll like his books.




Ugh. Jared Diamond. :feelsbadman:

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How do you explain their shitty driving skills?




The Japanese are some of the most skilled drivers I've ever seen. Way better than Americans.




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    #19269050 - 12/13/13 01:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Why do they SUCK at driving? :crankey:

I assume it has something to do with Confucianism.


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Perhaps Asians might appear to be better at math because that region of the world has a major percentage of the world's population? Therefore there might be a higher ratio of people that are better at math than the rest of the world? That might be a factor for the stereotype about Asians being so good at mathematics.

If North America had such populations of people, it could be the same kind of thing.

Just a thought.




I'm guessing you're not Asian.




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    #19269057 - 12/13/13 01:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I actually thought his first point made sense. A simpler system could make it easier for quick advancement. I dunno I thought it was a good thought.


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    #19269062 - 12/13/13 01:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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OP was about Asians. :shrug: i get what you meant, dude... i just thought, why not take it farther? why not give the Egyptians props too?




Arabs are technically Asian. Actually in Europe, when people use the word "Asian," they are generally speaking to Middle Eastern people.


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Just like metric and imperial. I sucked at metric because growing up learned a retarded ass system. Makes sense to me.


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    #19269069 - 12/13/13 01:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You can learn the metric system easily if you do enough drugs.


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Well ya I figured that out eventually.


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The imperial system is a joke. Slugs. C'mon.


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    #19269173 - 12/13/13 02:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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OP was about Asians. :shrug: i get what you meant, dude... i just thought, why not take it farther? why not give the Egyptians props too?




Arabs are technically Asian. Actually in Europe, when people use the word "Asian," they are generally speaking to Middle Eastern people.



well, might as well call it Occident and Orient then, i reckon.

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Arabs are technically Asian. Actually in Europe, when people use the word "Asian," they are generally speaking to Middle Eastern people.



What European country are you referring to? I live in Europe and we call Asians "Asians" and people from the Middle East are usually referred to by their country of origin, or they are called Arabs if it's unclear where they are from. I mean, it's really easy to see if someone is actually (eastern) Asian or if they ethnically originate in the Middle East.


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    #19269191 - 12/13/13 02:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Americans don't like the metric system because it came from France. It's a nice theory, isn't it. The only problem is Americans have no clue what the metric system is, let alone where it originated,


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    #19269275 - 12/13/13 03:34 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

They're not all as intelligent as you racially perceive them to be. Years ago, my older brother was dating a Chinese chick. She seemed completely normal; she was a good socializer, and she was good at mundane tasks. However, she had an enormous problem with empathy and other vicarious common sense. She had a pet cat in her apartment. She kept it locked in a closet 24/7 with no light whatsoever. The cat despised human beings. I wonder why? She also had two pet turtles. My brother convinced her to give the turtles to me. When she brought them over to my house, she had them both in a fish bowl that was so small, barely bigger than the turtles, that she had to stack them on top of each other. I was pissed that she brought them over stacked on top of one another. Later I found out that she didn't just ship them over stacked on top of each other, but that was how she kept them 24/7! They f**king lived in that condition! :frown: This girl was a unique case, but ever since I knew her, I stopped seeing Asians as more intellectually inclined than any other race. Basically what I'm saying is that, sometimes people have greater intellect in certain areas, and they are severely lacking in others, but they're not all that way. Every race is equal.


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    #19269285 - 12/13/13 03:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Rice forges a strong work ethic




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trololololll





Don't you see? Black athletes are ahead because of genetics and Asians are ahead because of rice :cookiemonster:




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    #19269320 - 12/13/13 04:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Im actually friends with an asian kid that failed calculus this semester.


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But really though asian racism is shitty as fuck because everybody gets away with it. You can say almost anything about an asian try that with any other race.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: LordSenate]
    #19269385 - 12/13/13 04:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Rice forges a strong work ethic




trololololll



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Rice forges a strong work ethic




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Don't you see? Black athletes are ahead because of genetics and Asians are ahead because of rice :cookiemonster:




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I'm surprised nobody has played the rice card in this thread.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Space Elf]
    #19269471 - 12/13/13 06:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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They're not all as intelligent as you racially perceive them to be. Years ago, my older brother was dating a Chinese chick. She seemed completely normal; she was a good socializer, and she was good at mundane tasks. However, she had an enormous problem with empathy and other vicarious common sense. She had a pet cat in her apartment. She kept it locked in a closet 24/7 with no light whatsoever. The cat despised human beings. I wonder why? She also had two pet turtles. My brother convinced her to give the turtles to me. When she brought them over to my house, she had them both in a fish bowl that was so small, barely bigger than the turtles, that she had to stack them on top of each other. I was pissed that she brought them over stacked on top of one another. Later I found out that she didn't just ship them over stacked on top of each other, but that was how she kept them 24/7! They f**king lived in that condition! :frown: This girl was a unique case, but ever since I knew her, I stopped seeing Asians as more intellectually inclined than any other race. Basically what I'm saying is that, sometimes people have greater intellect in certain areas, and they are severely lacking in others, but they're not all that way. Every race is equal.




That doesn't surprise me she was Chinese, China literally tortures animals before serving them as food, because Chinese culture believes that the more an animal suffers the better they taste.

Since you mentioned turtles, check this out.... live turtle, frog, and fish keychains. They eventually die after about a month of no oxygen or food, but this is the kind of thing that serves as "good luck" in Chinese culture: http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/keyrings.asp


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Cj-B]
    #19269486 - 12/13/13 06:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The Chinese, on the other hand, are some of the most horrifyingly aggressive drivers I've ever seen. It's quite terrifying.




LOLLLL I know what you're talking about. I remember watching a demo video of what driving would be like in 2050, when self-driving electric cars were taking place. And they showed like 5 lanes of cars all intersecting each other symmetrically at intersections, instead of stopping at traffic lights everybody would simply go into the intersection at the same time and the cars would know to avoid each other.

I saw that, and I was like, "Hey, that's just like Shanghai!" :lolsy:

They are aggressive, and never use traffic lights, but amazingly they never crash into each other.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Space Elf]
    #19269514 - 12/13/13 06:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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They're not all as intelligent as you racially perceive them to be. Years ago, my older brother was dating a Chinese chick. She seemed completely normal; she was a good socializer, and she was good at mundane tasks. However, she had an enormous problem with empathy and other vicarious common sense. She had a pet cat in her apartment. She kept it locked in a closet 24/7 with no light whatsoever. The cat despised human beings. I wonder why? She also had two pet turtles. My brother convinced her to give the turtles to me. When she brought them over to my house, she had them both in a fish bowl that was so small, barely bigger than the turtles, that she had to stack them on top of each other. I was pissed that she brought them over stacked on top of one another. Later I found out that she didn't just ship them over stacked on top of each other, but that was how she kept them 24/7! They f**king lived in that condition! :frown: This girl was a unique case, but ever since I knew her, I stopped seeing Asians as more intellectually inclined than any other race. Basically what I'm saying is that, sometimes people have greater intellect in certain areas, and they are severely lacking in others, but they're not all that way. Every race is equal.




:lol: that's fucked up.  sounds like a lack of intra/interpersonal intelligence, a type overlooked by standard intelligence tests and our young culture in general.  so while she may possess these seemingly psycho traits, she still could have a high IQ.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Hobozen]
    #19269538 - 12/13/13 06:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I had more than one person say to me, that when they began to understand some of the basic morals in Chinese culture, they were horrified.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: koods]
    #19269552 - 12/13/13 06:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

chinese people and their news annoy the crap out of me

but this is all still kind of new to me due to the hollywood impression you get from watchin their movies


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Patlal]
    #19269602 - 12/13/13 07:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Rice? Really?
Well the OP was entertaining. Made me laugh.

Chinese culture has parts that are equally fucked up as parts of Western Culture, we just tend to ignore those darker sides of our culture.
And it's not like the more horrific practices in Chinese culture are widespread anymore, just as with our culture.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #19269611 - 12/13/13 07:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I dunno, there are a few species threatened simply because they are prized in Chinese medicine.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: koraks]
    #19269627 - 12/13/13 07:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Arabs are technically Asian. Actually in Europe, when people use the word "Asian," they are generally speaking to Middle Eastern people.



What European country are you referring to? I live in Europe and we call Asians "Asians" and people from the Middle East are usually referred to by their country of origin, or they are called Arabs if it's unclear where they are from. I mean, it's really easy to see if someone is actually (eastern) Asian or if they ethnically originate in the Middle East.




Based on my watching of British TV, it seems like over there "Asian" is usually assumed to mean people from places like India and Bangladesh. In the US and Canada it seems to be more likely people will assume you're talking about people from places like China, Japan or Korea.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: koods]
    #19269637 - 12/13/13 07:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I dunno, there are a few species threatened simply because they are prized in Chinese medicine.




Americans have totally never done that. :rolleyes:


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    #19269645 - 12/13/13 07:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I dunno, there are a few species threatened simply because they are prized in Chinese medicine.




Americans have totally never done that. :rolleyes:


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: psi]
    #19271116 - 12/13/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Arabs are technically Asian. Actually in Europe, when people use the word "Asian," they are generally speaking to Middle Eastern people.



What European country are you referring to? I live in Europe and we call Asians "Asians" and people from the Middle East are usually referred to by their country of origin, or they are called Arabs if it's unclear where they are from. I mean, it's really easy to see if someone is actually (eastern) Asian or if they ethnically originate in the Middle East.




Based on my watching of British TV, it seems like over there "Asian" is usually assumed to mean people from places like India and Bangladesh. In the US and Canada it seems to be more likely people will assume you're talking about people from places like China, Japan or Korea.




Yes, in the UK "Asian refers" to Indians, Pakis, Persians, etc. I think they call east Asians Mongolians, but I can't remember what they call us.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Crystal G]
    #19271195 - 12/13/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

He may have a point about population growth and eating at a lower trophic level.
You can feed more people with rice and fish because you arent wasting resources needed to feed the cow, which is more than the nutritional value of the cow itself.
The western mindset revolves around meat,even though that is way worse for the planet.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: ChinChiller]
    #19271206 - 12/13/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

that thought also crossed my mind several times.. why are there so many chinese people?
and its most likely.. cos of their food, mostly vegetarian ...means less sickness, healthier bodies and less misscarriages.. just a smoother process


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    #19271222 - 12/13/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

must be also because of their warmer climate yes
we europeans and probably americans too cant really grow or cultivate plants because of winter. winter would kill the cultivated plants.. however the animals survive but then we kill them cos wer barbarians


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: seadragon]
    #19271590 - 12/13/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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that thought also crossed my mind several times.. why are there so many chinese people?
and its most likely.. cos of their food, mostly vegetarian ...means less sickness, healthier bodies and less misscarriages.. just a smoother process




Chinese population actually didn't really skyrocket until after the Ming Dynasty, around the 1500's the population tripled. But they always had a large population, even before that during the Han Dynasty around 200 A.D. the population was still 60 million, which was at the time 1/4 of the world's population.

Almost all of the rest of the world outside of the west eats at lower trophic levels. In Africa, legumes and beans and whole grains are usually what's consumed. Some also like to eat fried grasshoppers and botfly worms, which apparently is high in protein. In East Asia it's rice and fish.

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must be also because of their warmer climate yes
we europeans and probably americans too cant really grow or cultivate plants because of winter. winter would kill the cultivated plants.. however the animals survive but then we kill them cos wer barbarians




Uhmmm China is huge, not all of China is warm. Did you forget that China borders Russia as well? There are some areas of China that are deserts too, not all of China is tropical. Northern China snows all the time. Central China has deserts larger than the Sahara (and as we all know deserts foster no plant life other than cacti).


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    #19271725 - 12/13/13 05:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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must be also because of their warmer climate yes
we europeans and probably americans too cant really grow or cultivate plants because of winter. winter would kill the cultivated plants.. however the animals survive but then we kill them cos wer barbarians




China's climate as a whole is very similar to the USA - from tropical to frozen wasteland.


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    #19271866 - 12/13/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Fuck China, it is literally hell on earth





I want to go to Taiwain or Japan. South East Asia would be pretty cool too, but fuck china....



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OP was about Asians. :shrug: i get what you meant, dude... i just thought, why not take it farther? why not give the Egyptians props too?




Arabs are technically Asian. Actually in Europe, when people use the word "Asian," they are generally speaking to Middle Eastern people.






What?

When people say Asian they most often mean Japanese, Chinese, or Korean. All ethnicities located in East Asia


Arabs are an ethnic group that have huge populations in both the Middle East, and Africa.


You do know not all muslims are Arabs? And Egyptians are not Arabs they are Egyptian, come on.....
There are so many ethnic groups in the middle east, almost none of which would be referred to as “Asian”.  Hell even indian people don’t call themselves Asian.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: elax420]
    #19271907 - 12/13/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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What?

When people say Asian they most often mean Japanese, Chinese, or Korean. All ethnicities located in East Asia


Arabs are an ethnic group that have huge populations in both the Middle East, and Africa.


You do know not all muslims are Arabs? And Egyptians are not Arabs they are Egyptian, come on.....
There are so many ethnic groups in the middle east, almost none of which would be referred to as “Asian”.  Hell even indian people don’t call themselves Asian.




You have never been to England, have you? When English people refer to "Asians," they are referring to Central Asia, Middle Easterners, and Indians. Americans refer to Eastern Asians as Asians.

Eastern Asians in the UK are called Mongolians, or Orientals.

And yes, I'm aware not all Muslims are Arabs, actually the majority of Muslims are black. But nobody mentioned Muslims anyway, soooooo...


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    #19271923 - 12/13/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Fuck China, it is literally hell on earth








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    #19271944 - 12/13/13 06:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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    #19271948 - 12/13/13 06:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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In Africa, legumes and beans and whole grains are usually what's consumed. Some also like to eat fried grasshoppers and botfly worms, which apparently is high in protein. In East Asia it's rice and fish.





There are quite a few insects getting munched down in East Asia, too. The grasshoppers are pretty good with beer :thumbup:


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    #19271950 - 12/13/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

No i haven’t I do have a pretty good friend who is from London, never heard him call a middle easterner asian once.


He calls em pakis, and trust me there are plenty of both around.

I brought the muslim thing up because you said some ridiculously ignorant shit about arabs/middle easterners. But you just referred to “blacks” as an ethnic group so its obvious I’m fighting an up hill battle :facepalm:


Egypt is in North Africa populated by Egyptians and Berbers that have lived there since the start of civilization. Get that shit straight.




Don’t be that guy that did study abroad and now claims to know everything about a the country they spent less than a year in.


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    #19272056 - 12/13/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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No i haven’t I do have a pretty good friend who is from London, never heard him call a middle easterner asian once.




From London? As in, he has only been living there a couple of years and then moved to the US? Or has he been living most of his life in America? If he hasn't been living in America that long, you should ask him what "Asian" means in the UK. He will say the same thing I said.

A quick search will find that I am correct in my assertion of what Asians mean in the UK:

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British Asians are British citizens of South Asian descent, also known as South Asians in the United Kingdom. In British English usage, the term 'Asian' usually does not include East Asians, North Asians, or Southeast Asians.[5]

Prior to the formation of the United Kingdom, immigration of South Asians to England began with the arrival of the East India Company to the Indian subcontinent. This continued during the British Raj and increased in volume after the independence of India, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, and Bangladesh from British rule, chiefly for education and economic pursuits. A major influx of South Asian immigrants, mostly of Indian and Pakistani origin, also took place following the expulsion of Indian communities (then holders of British passports) from Uganda and other East African nations (see Asians in Africa).



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Asian

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I brought the muslim thing up because you said some ridiculously ignorant shit about arabs/middle easterners. But you just referred to “blacks” as an ethnic group so its obvious I’m fighting an up hill battle :facepalm:




Actually the term "black" actually IS the accurate racial group. If you divide race up, it goes Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid. Since "negro" is not PC to say anymore, black is what is accurate when you are dividing up by race. What is NOT accurate is calling them "African-Americans," if you are referring to American blacks that is. Additionally, there are different races in every single country, so to say "black Muslim" is entirely different from saying "African Muslim." I'm amazed at the shit you don't know.

The majority of Muslims ARE black. There is no inaccuracy in my statement.

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Don’t be that guy that did study abroad and now claims to know everything about a the country they spent less than a year in.




Don't be that guy that probably never took a history college course, and claims to know everything when he's really just saying dumb, obvious shit. Like "Egypt is in Africa" NO FUCKING SHIT, THANKS FOR THE GEOGRAPHY LESSON LOL


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    #19272060 - 12/13/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Aren't the majority of Muslims Asian? Like, Indonesian is considered Asian, no?


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    #19272255 - 12/13/13 08:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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What?

When people say Asian they most often mean Japanese, Chinese, or Korean. All ethnicities located in East Asia


Arabs are an ethnic group that have huge populations in both the Middle East, and Africa.


You do know not all muslims are Arabs? And Egyptians are not Arabs they are Egyptian, come on.....
There are so many ethnic groups in the middle east, almost none of which would be referred to as “Asian”.  Hell even indian people don’t call themselves Asian.




You have never been to England, have you? When English people refer to "Asians," they are referring to Central Asia, Middle Easterners, and Indians. Americans refer to Eastern Asians as Asians.

Eastern Asians in the UK are called Mongolians, or Orientals.

And yes, I'm aware not all Muslims are Arabs, actually the majority of Muslims are black. But nobody mentioned Muslims anyway, soooooo...




No. It's like you forgot what this thread is about. There are probably more Muslims in Indonesia than there are Arabs in the world.


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    #19272291 - 12/13/13 08:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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No i haven’t I do have a pretty good friend who is from London, never heard him call a middle easterner asian once.




From London? As in, he has only been living there a couple of years and then moved to the US? Or has he been living most of his life in America? If he hasn't been living in America that long, you should ask him what "Asian" means in the UK. He will say the same thing I said.

A quick search will find that I am correct in my assertion of what Asians mean in the UK:

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British Asians are British citizens of South Asian descent, also known as South Asians in the United Kingdom. In British English usage, the term 'Asian' usually does not include East Asians, North Asians, or Southeast Asians.[5]

Prior to the formation of the United Kingdom, immigration of South Asians to England began with the arrival of the East India Company to the Indian subcontinent. This continued during the British Raj and increased in volume after the independence of India, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, and Bangladesh from British rule, chiefly for education and economic pursuits. A major influx of South Asian immigrants, mostly of Indian and Pakistani origin, also took place following the expulsion of Indian communities (then holders of British passports) from Uganda and other East African nations (see Asians in Africa).



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Asian

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I brought the muslim thing up because you said some ridiculously ignorant shit about arabs/middle easterners. But you just referred to “blacks” as an ethnic group so its obvious I’m fighting an up hill battle :facepalm:




Actually the term "black" actually IS the accurate racial group. If you divide race up, it goes Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid. Since "negro" is not PC to say anymore, black is what is accurate when you are dividing up by race. What is NOT accurate is calling them "African-Americans," if you are referring to American blacks that is. Additionally, there are different races in every single country, so to say "black Muslim" is entirely different from saying "African Muslim." I'm amazed at the shit you don't know.

The majority of Muslims ARE black. There is no inaccuracy in my statement.

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Don’t be that guy that did study abroad and now claims to know everything about a the country they spent less than a year in.




Don't be that guy that probably never took a history college course, and claims to know everything when he's really just saying dumb, obvious shit. Like "Egypt is in Africa" NO FUCKING SHIT, THANKS FOR THE GEOGRAPHY LESSON LOL




As in born and raised in north london (he’s white, but that is only relevant assuming you actually know anything about England) here on an study exchange. But props on trying to act like more of an authority on England than an Englishman, Murrica fuck yaaaaa


Just admit when you are wrong. You called fucking Egyptians Arabian thats pretty bad and highly offensive :lol: and now you are backpedaling like a mofo. If you took those college history classes you are talking about you would know the story of Egypt is a story of foreign domination and control, which they are to this day highly resentful of. I guess i can make it strike home by saying Koreans are really Japanese since Japan dominated Korea for a long time.

Atleast i know the differences between race, ethnicity, and continents.


Never once in my life have i heard someone refer to a group of middle easterners as asians. Wrong as it may be when people say asian they mean the predominant physical traits associated with east asian people. (eyes, stature, hair color)

Which is more likely to be called asian (both are from Asia and roughly the same longitude)






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Aren't the majority of Muslims Asian? Like, Indonesian is considered Asian, no?



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I think the proper verbiage is actually

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Never once in my life have i heard someone refer to a group of middle easterners as asians. Wrong as it may be when people say asian they mean the predominant physical traits associated with east asian people. (eyes, stature, hair color)




In North America, "Asian" usually means East Asian. In Britain, "Asian" usually means South Asian (see the WP link Crystal posted.) Personally I've never heard of anyone in either place hearing someone described as "Asian" and assuming they were Middle Eastern or Arab. Many people do consider the Middle East to be part of Asia though.


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Hmm, that looks like Scarborough, Ontario.




Have you spent much time in Scarborough by the way? That's where I grew up.


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    #19272415 - 12/13/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yep, I grew up just west of Scarborough, Vic Park and Kingston Road area. Scarborough is pretty cool, I like it better than the west end.

I used to love smoking weed down at Bluffer's Park.

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Cool. I grew up by Highland Creek. I'm no longer in Toronto proper but I'm pretty close by.


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British Asians are British citizens of South Asian descent, also known as South Asians in the United Kingdom. In British English usage, the term 'Asi' ually does not include East Asians, North Asians, or Southeast Asians.[5]

Prior to the formation of the United Kingdom, immigration of South Asians to England began with the arrival of the East India Company to the Indian subcontinent. This continued during the British Raj and increased in volume after the independence of India, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, and Bangladesh from British rule, chiefly for education and economic pursuits. A major influx of South Asian immigrants, mostly of Indian and Pakistani origin, also took place following the expulsion of Indian communities (then holders of British passports) from Uganda and other East African nations (see Asians in Africa).



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Asian






Just admit when you are wrong. You called fucking Egyptians Arabian thats pretty bad and highly offensive :lol: and now you are backpedaling like a mofo. If you took those college history classes you are talking about you would know the story of Egypt is a story of foreign domination and control, which they are to this day highly resentful of. I guess i can make it strike home by saying Koreans are really Japanese since Japan dominated Korea for a long time.




How the fuck was I wrong? :facepalm: I provided sources and evidence PROVING YOU WRONG, but apparently.you're so thick headed you can't see that.

Where did I call egyptians asian? Find me an exact quote where I said that.

And btw I do have a degree in political studies, I also took black studies and middle east history. You are completely out of your league arguing with me.

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Atleast i know the differences between race, ethnicity, and continents.





EVERBODY DOES.

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Never once in my life have i heard someone refer to a group of middle easterners as asians




So your logic is, if YOU PERSONALLY have never heard of it, it must not exist. BRILLIANT.

It doesn't surprise me you've never heard of it, you're probably a typical american whose never left his country


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Ja-ewww? :confused:


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    #19272495 - 12/13/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Lots of cool parks out that way. I used to like bombing down into the valley on Ellesmere on my motorbike. Twyn Rivers is fun, too.


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Yeah that hill on Twyn Rivers is pretty nuts.


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    #19272531 - 12/13/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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don't try arguing with elax, he's a big time lover of semantics.




Why does that not surprise me? Its like people who have no argument or formal education, so they instead choose to berate a post for improper spelling or some shit


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    #19272592 - 12/13/13 09:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

or trying to break down the persons belief's for no reason other then to show that he can... yah, there might a time and place for that... but not in this relatively civil thread.


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Yeah that hill on Twyn Rivers is pretty nuts.




It's the expanded metal bridge at the bottom. If you hit it going really fast, it makes the bike get all squirrely and it feels like you're going to end up in the river. It's only wide enough for one car too, so if somebody's coming the other way, you have to get hard on the brakes, and it feels like you're going into the river too:rofl:


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    #19272644 - 12/13/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah that seems like it would be sketchy on a bike. Another cool spot by there is the old landfill site, pretty good view from the top.


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    #19272660 - 12/13/13 10:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I can't tell if the number of Canadians on this site is out of proportion to the country's population, or you just talk a lot :grin:


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:lol: The second option is probably closest to the truth I would guess.


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This thread was going to shit anyways :wink:


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    #19272767 - 12/13/13 10:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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don't try arguing with elax, he's a big time lover of semantics.



semantics r fun. as long as u r arguing about tha right kind of semantics


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If you divide race up, it goes Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid.




And if you measure the shape of someone's skull you can tell if they are a criminal.

Your black studies teacher failed in my opinion.  Unless someone has redefined those words in the past 200 years without my knowledge, they have no relevence to the modern understanding of humans.


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If you divide race up, it goes Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid.




And if you measure the shape of someone's skull you can tell if they are a criminal.

Your black studies teacher failed in my opinion.  Unless someone has redefined those words in the past 200 years without my knowledge, they have no relevence to the modern understanding of humans.




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If you divide race up, it goes Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid.




And if you measure the shape of someone's skull you can tell if they are a criminal.

Your black studies teacher failed in my opinion.  Unless someone has redefined those words in the past 200 years without my knowledge, they have no relevence to the modern understanding of humans.




What are you talking about, up until the 1980's even scientific literature used these terms. It is actually still used depending on the field of study.

The only reason they don't use these terms AS OFTEN anymore is because they identify more races now and have changed some of the terms. (e.g. in statistical surveys "Mongoloid" was changed to "Asian," "Negroid" was changed to "Negro" or "black," and "Caucasoid" was changed to "Caucasian" or "white," then there was an introduction of "Hispanic" and "white Hispanic" and "black Hispanic," even though "Hispanic" is technically not a race).

The term "Caucasian" and "Negro" came about from Caucasoid and Negroid. I am simply using the "old school" terminology to define races. I fail to see how this is at all inaccurate.

The black studies teacher however, DID share his opinions about how calling somebody "African-American" is actually more offensive than using the term "black." Which is why I always use the term black when ascribing to the race.


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    #19272846 - 12/13/13 10:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The whole concept of race is an arbitrary construct based of physical features. It is also a classification system that very little legitimate use in modern sodiety.


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    #19272890 - 12/13/13 11:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I say black too, but any time someone starts to act like racial groups are well defined I think they aren't really seeing the big picture.  I don't think anyone other than political serving statisticians really talk about race that way anymore. 

The problem comes in defining a race, everybody has their own way of doing that.  You could say we are all one race, or each an individual race, neither is wrong, as long as you take the time to define your terms.


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    #19272937 - 12/13/13 11:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The whole concept of race is an arbitrary construct based of physical features. It is also a classification system that very little legitimate use in modern sodiety.




I agree with that. Nationality is a better way of classification than race. Race is too arbitrary, not to mention a very primitive way of categorizing people, and fails to differentiate between the differences that nationalities do. I don't think that Afghanistans should be in the same category as Vietnamese, for example.

And even within nationalities, there is still arguably a lot of differences. People from Sioux Falls are nothing at all like people from San Francisco. People from Liverpool are nothing like people from Manchester. People from Pusan are nothing like people from Seoul. Etc.

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Yeah I say black too, but any time someone starts to act like racial groups are well defined I think they aren't really seeing the big picture.  I don't think anyone other than political serving statisticians really talk about race that way anymore.




Nowhere did I argue in protest for the classification of race or claim that race as a measure of definition is "well-defined." The only reason I even mentioned race was because somebody had asked "who" is the largest population of Muslims. Which is blacks.


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    #19272954 - 12/13/13 11:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm just saying that when I hear a statistic like that I wish they would also say how they define black.  It may seem harmless but statistics generally suck and never tell the whole truth.


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    #19272959 - 12/13/13 11:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I find it fascinating how nearly every word that has been used to define a particular race has been deprecated and deemed innapropriate or "politically incorrect" — except white. White has been white for centuries. All the words that "Asian" or "black" have replaced are now considered racist.


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don't try arguing with elax, he's a big time lover of semantics.



semantics r fun. as long as u r arguing about tha right kind of semantics



yeah, not tha stoopid kind though!1

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    #19272984 - 12/13/13 11:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yer floppy headed moufs have to keep moving so they don't freeze up.


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    #19272990 - 12/13/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Races are racist, they are.  Racism is the brainchild of the politically correct, only politics could twist words so much and still insist they mean something.  The words are strong, they are weak, they are bad, they are good.


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    #19273001 - 12/13/13 11:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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And btw I do have a degree in political studies, I also took black studies and middle east history. You are completely out of your league arguing with me.

It doesn't surprise me you've never heard of it, you're probably a typical american whose never left his country







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Formal education





:lolsy:

Pure gold.
The only reason why i even called out was because you are trying to act like an authority on the matter but lack even the most basic understanding of the middle east.


I’m actually more traveled than most, and I am currently in business school, but think what you will :shrug:


Im not going to rip on your degree, but people with liberal arts degrees probably shouldn’t try and talk shit about education.......


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    #19273005 - 12/13/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

There are so many better ways to divide people up into us and them. I don't need arbitrary labels to tell me who to hate.


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Pure gold.
The only reason why i even called out was because you are trying to act like an authority on the matter but lack even the most basic understanding of the middle east.




The reason that you think I lack basic understanding of the middle east is because you keep creating strawmans and accusing me of shit I NEVER SAID. Like when you claimed I said that Egyptians are Asian, WHEN I NEVER ONCE MENTIONED EGYPT IN THIS ENTIRE THREAD.

As far as what "Asians" are called, I provided sourced evidence along with anecdotal evidence. All you provided was anecdotal evidence, which wasn't even concrete (your English friend never stated that Asians aren't referred as South Asians, he simply refers to Pakistanis as Paki's which doesn't mean anything). Obviously logic dictates that the person with more concrete evidence is correct.

Now see, if you were a poli sci major, you would have known to fact-check before making your posts, and learned to read statements accurately before accusing people of saying things they never said, before basing your entire arguments around nonexistent statements.

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Im not going to rip on your degree, but people with liberal arts degrees probably shouldn’t try and talk shit about education.......




You're ripping on a political science degree (which covers international politics, pre-law, and political theory) yet you are in business school which is also a liberal arts degree, :facepalm: and any monkey with the IQ equivalency of George "Dubya" Bush can get an MBA (he did get an MBA, by the way). Regardless, a poli sci degree is still harder, because at least in political theory you are required to write extensively about various topics, and won't get good grades if you are shitty at prose, shitty at debate, shitty at linguistics, or shitty at logic, OR SHITTY AT FACT-CHECKING.

Do you seriously believe that somebody with a BS in chemistry or neuroscience is going to have more knowledge on foreign policy and international affairs? Because that is essentially what you are saying... IN CASE YOU FORGOT WHAT THIS ARGUMENT IS ABOUT. Obviously, somebody with expertise in history or politics is going to have the most knowledge pertinent to this thread. You cannot possibly be THAT retarded and unaware to think that a science degree is going to be more relevant when discussing black history or the Middle East, right? :lol:


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    #19273087 - 12/14/13 12:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

No need to bash someone else's studies.  Art is one way of exploring the idea of race, science is another.  I'd say both have excelled way past pop culture and politics in terms of understanding ourselves and eachother, but I guess that has always been the case. :shrug:


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    #19273097 - 12/14/13 12:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

actually yes he can. lets not berate him for it. let him think he's right. it's like he's gonna  go ape shit and be doing any damage or anything.


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    #19273100 - 12/14/13 12:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You quoted a guy talking about Egyptians and then you brought up that Arabs are technically Asian. Which they may be but its a misnomer because they share little to nothing in common.
Since when is Business Lib Arts? Maybe economics...... But those guys kinda do their own thing and don’t associate with people in the other departments.



I fail to see the value of pursuing a liberal arts degree but hey, thats like just my opinion, man

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    #19273102 - 12/14/13 12:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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No need to bash someone else's studies.  Art is one way of exploring the idea of race, science is another.  I'd say both have excelled way past pop culture and politics in terms of understanding ourselves and eachother, but I guess that has always been the case. :shrug:




I just find it hilarious that he's ripping on "liberal arts" studies, when some of those liberal arts studies would actually be THE experts to go to when you're talking about geography, history, race, or politics.

Obviously, if I want to ask a question about the Middle East, I am going to go to the expert in foreign policy and international politics. If I want to ask a question about black studies, I am going to contact a black history professor. Why on earth would you ask the opinion of a biochemist or a physicist about the topics that we are debating about? Clearly not very much logic is required to go to business school.


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    #19273108 - 12/14/13 12:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quality thread Patlal :yesnod: I think its the Asians determination and hard work that gets them smart. Us whites are to busy living life and enjoying it, while they are studying and held to super high standards. Like you said, IQ wise I think were similar. Them Asians are hard workers, like the Mexicans but smarter :smile:


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You quoted a guy talking about Egyptians and then you brought up that Arabs are technically Asian. Which they may be but its a misnomer because they share little to nothing in common.
Since when is Business Lib Arts? Maybe economics...... But those guys kinda do their own thing and don’t associate with people in the other departments.



I fail to see the value of pursuing a liberal arts degree but hey, thats like just my opinion, man

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    #19273127 - 12/14/13 12:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You quoted a guy talking about Egyptians and then you brought up that Arabs are technically Asian. Which they may be but its a misnomer because they share little to nothing in common.




Jesus fuck dude, did you not see who that guy was responding to? My post was quoting a guy who was responding to the guy who said this: "Also, its funny how nobody mentioned the arab/turkish world in regard to mathematics."

HENCE, I SAID, that Arabs are technically Asian. Algebra was actually created in ancient Babylon/Mesopotamian region which today we know as Iraq/Iran region, WHICH IS ASIA.

Therefore, his post aligns with the stereotypical Asian trope.

What he SHOULD have said, was that during the Renaissance, ancient Greece and Rome excelled at mathematics and physics, which is bizarre, because today's modern Italians are nothing like that.

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Since when is Business Lib Arts? Maybe economics...... But those guys kinda do their own thing and don’t associate with people in the other departments.




Business is considered liberal arts at many universities. Even economics is still considered liberal arts. Even biology and botany is considered "liberal arts" along with "science." What the fuck else would business be aside from liberal arts? Clearly it's not a bachelors of science degree. It might be considered "bachelors of arts" degree instead of "liberal arts." But a business degree is no more useful than any other liberal arts degree. You will see that once you enter the real world. I've known plenty of people with MBA's who couldn't find work for three years.

Most business don't care that you have a degree in business, because no shit, business is fucking easy to learn and train to anybody.

I laugh and pity you that you think that your degree is any more useful than black history. :lolsy:


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    #19273133 - 12/14/13 12:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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No need to bash someone else's studies.  Art is one way of exploring the idea of race, science is another.  I'd say both have excelled way past pop culture and politics in terms of understanding ourselves and eachother, but I guess that has always been the case. :shrug:




I just find it hilarious that he's ripping on "liberal arts" studies, when some of those liberal arts studies would actually be THE experts to go to when you're talking about geography, history, race, or politics.

Obviously, if I want to ask a question about the Middle East, I am going to go to the expert in foreign policy and international politics. If I want to ask a question about black studies, I am going to contact a black history professor. Why on earth would you ask the opinion of a biochemist or a physicist about the topics that we are debating about? Clearly not very much logic is required to go to business school.






I guess the guys that got poly sci degrees to pad their grades and make it easier to go to Law school then got into politics would be pretty good to go to. The other option? Oh Multinational corporations, funny how that one works.......



Oh ya Black history is totally as useful as Accounting or Finance, which i guess is lib arts now in whatever fucking world you live in :lol:

simple google search: wow 4 of the 6 are in the business school with the other one being highly related to business.
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    #19273141 - 12/14/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I guess the guys that got poly sci degrees to pad their grades and make it easier to go to Law school then got into politics would be pretty good to go to. The other option? Oh Multinational corporations, funny how that one works.......

Oh ya Black history is totally as useful as Accounting or Finance, which i guess is lib arts now in whatever fucking world you live in :lol:




Guess what? I work in finance, and they hired me with a poli sci degree! My boss also has his degree in political economy. :What a useless degree that was, LMFAO!!!

Again, even most finance firms don't require finance or business degrees because guess what, finance and business are easy as shit to learn and train to anybody. I studied for two weeks and passed my licensing exam, with no education at all whatsoever in finance or business. George Dubya has his MBA, what does that tell you?

You degree will help you, however the fact that you studied business will make no difference at all whatsoever.

Of course black history is useful, it teaches history from a completely different perspective than what is taught in high school. Basically, what you are saying is that history is useless, which is an utter fail. :facepalm:


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    #19273151 - 12/14/13 12:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Its sad that schools are turning into factories to make us into more profitable beings.  We waste so much time and energy trying to impress eachother, it is just as important to understand eachother.  It might not make you a better earner, but it will make you a better person.


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    #19273153 - 12/14/13 12:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Its sad that schools are turning into factories to make us into more profitable beings.  We waste so much time and energy trying to impress eachother, it is just as important to understand eachother.  It might not make you a better earner, but it will make you a better person.




I'm just saying this guy is going to get a huge reality check if he believes his degree will be any more fruitful in finding a job. For starters, it won't, especially not for just a bachelors. For every BA in business that is applying, there will be dozens of MBA's also applying. Having a bachelors degree in business is about as useful as a bachelors degree in psychology or neuroscience. It's not particularly fruitful until you get a doctorate's.


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    #19273168 - 12/14/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ya it is easy shit to learn, and its a really good school. why the fuck do you think i did it?
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What you want me to give you some kind of validation? Congratulations you got a shitty entry level office job completely outside of your expertise/field of study :highfive:


You keep putting words in my mouth but i guess this is done.
Im sure as hell not getting a BA
You're the one bragging about degrees, i would have never even brought it up so stop with the pissing contest.

Just to let you know, I get what you were doing.
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Oh and besides the point no one gets a doctorate in business unless your goal is to teach. You’re right everybody and their dog has an MBA, that doesn’t make them not valuable though. It forces your employer to pay you more, and opens more doors. Obviously not all degrees are created equal, that wasn’t the point i was trying to make at all. As a generality Business is going to be more useful than Lib Arts.

You know you took some straight bullshit to get a poly sci degree. You don’t take a lot of bullshit in Business, Business bullshit sure, but no fucking medieval african american feminist studies.


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    #19273191 - 12/14/13 01:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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What you want me to give you some kind of validation? Congratulations you got a shitty entry level office job completely outside of your expertise/field of study :highfive:




My job isn't an office job. I actually get to set my own hours, since I'm considered a subcontractor with the company. For example, I never work on Fridays because I don't have to and I don't want to. I also made $18 grand in the month of November, which was the most I made in one month to date. Hardly "entry level," although I suppose compared to a hedge fund manager I am at the bottom. But my income is very sporadic and always fluctuates between very high and very low, so it's still pretty mediocre I guess.

What, when I said I went into finance, did you think I became a bank teller? :lol:

Anybody can learn how to do accounting/finance/business. Hence why some of these companies don't even require degrees, such as the tax accountants at Jackson Hewitt. The work is easy, and the hardest math you will probably ever do is level I algebra. Business is essentially learning, understanding, and memorizing basic concepts and methods, with easy math.

Anybody can quickly learn and understand the trade of business, but not everybody can understand the writings of Kant or Hegel.


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Obviously not all degrees are created equal, that wasn’t the point i was trying to make at all. As a generality Business is going to be more useful than Lib Arts.

You know you took some straight bullshit to get a poly sci degree. You don’t take a lot of bullshit in Business, Business bullshit sure, but no fucking medieval african american feminist studies.




I disagree with you about cultural studies (e.g. African American, Latino, Asian-American, gender studies), simply because you learn about history from a completely different perspective than what you are thought. I actually find these studies to be some of the most important studies, if only for that reason alone.

And actually depending on the area of study, I find it to be much more difficult and useful in some ways than business or finance degrees:

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Anybody can quickly learn and understand the trade of business, but not everybody can understand the writings of Kant or Hegel.




Philosophy, being one of them. All philosophy majors can learn business. Not all business majors can learn to read philosophy. The two take a completely different level of skill to do, with philosophy being the more difficult subject.

Additionally, these majors develop your critical thinking and analytical and fact-checking skills. If you want to be a news reporter or political commentator, I would actually recommend poli sci as a foundation for your degree.

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You know you took some straight bullshit to get a poly sci degree. You don’t take a lot of bullshit in Business, Business bullshit sure, but no fucking medieval african american feminist studies.




I was not required to take any of those "bullshit" classes, I took them because they were the most interesting classes I have ever taken in my life.

Lastly, I don't think that anybody who has never taken any liberal arts classes should be speaking as if they have any authority about the subject. Frankly, you probably don't even know the type of material that is studied in the classrooms.


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    #19273215 - 12/14/13 01:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Come on... just whip out your dicks. Let's see whose is bigger - or are you afraid to lose to a girl Elax?


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    #19273218 - 12/14/13 01:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well see i agree with you there. Anyone can learn ANYTHING. Im not trying to say Business is inherently harder or any shit like that, because its all subjective.
Shit thats hard to me is easy to someone else, and vice versa. I can’t say for sure because I’m not even done with the program yet but i think the idea behind business school is to get you to think in their model and encourage those traits they want to represent their school. School prestige plays a big role in getting jobs. Get an MBA from Wharton and you can work anywhere.


Im just saying its going to be a much harder sale to hired at fortune 500 when you are fighting 100s of people for a position thats starting salary is 100k when you have a poly sci.  If i were you i would try and go back and get a decent MBA assuming you have the grades. You will make a lot more money, and an MBA is a cakewalk. Getting in is the hardest part.

You are completely discounting business, which makes sense because I’m doing the same thing with you :rofl: Ultimately I’m about maximizing profit and utility, to me it seems like you are(were) at university for hedonistic pleasures. Just different ways of thinking i won’t understand yours i can’t expect you to understand mine :shrug: I can’t see the value in Feminist Studies, you can’t see the value in Operations Management

You actually talk about Machiavelli and Adam Smith quite a bit though. Ive taken way too many fucking history classes, I’m actually kind of bummed out i can’t take anymore without going van wilder.


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Dude i have a very average sized dick :lol:

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    #19273229 - 12/14/13 01:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The crazy thing is, if Crystal said "I got that beat" right now, I wouldn't be shocked.


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    #19273235 - 12/14/13 01:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Im just saying its going to be a much harder sale to hired at fortune 500 when you are fighting 100s of people for a position thats starting salary is 100k when you have a poly sci.  If i were you i would try and go back and get a decent MBA assuming you have the grades. You will make a lot more money, and an MBA is a cakewalk. Getting in is the hardest part.




No, I wouldn't. When you work as a financial advisor or consultant, your entire pay is based off commissions. That's why my pay is always so up and down. Getting an MBA would simply put me into more debt. Your commissions don't go any higher simply because you achieved a graduate degree.

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You are completely discounting business, which makes sense because I’m doing the same thing with you :rofl: Ultimately I’m about maximizing profit and utility, to me it seems like you are(were) at university for hedonistic pleasures. Just different ways of thinking i won’t understand yours i can’t expect you to understand mine :shrug: I can’t see the value in Feminist Studies, you can’t see the value in Operations Management




I don't believe having a business degree is any different from having any other degree. Any time I've ever attended a job fair for business/marketing/finance industry, less than 5-10% of the booths even required a related degree.

I was colleagues with a business management major that graduated with me. He even worked abroad in China for a year. Couldn't find a job after graduation for 6 months, ended up going into the exact same field, in the exact same position as me.

Consider the fact that 70% of college graduates end up working in a field that is completely unrelated to your major. Therefore, it's not really the major that counts, but the fact that you have a degree.


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    #19273244 - 12/14/13 01:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Seems like a business degree doesn't teach you very much about people- you know, the customers.


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    #19273253 - 12/14/13 02:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ah shit you work on commission?
I would hate that personally.

Ya well you would be wrong in that assumption. Certain business schools are farms for certain mega corporations. Example: Goldman hires a shit ton of Accountants from my school for some reason.


You really should have your first job set up before you graduate business school, sounds like your buddy messed up. My school makes you do a internship to graduate. You have to do shit work for no pay but you make the connections that end up paying off in the long haul. I can’t tell you the exact number off the top of my head but my school brags about their job placement and starting salary right out of school, and my school has the economics included so that fucks up the numbers royally :lol:


I don’t believe there is such thing as an unemployed accountant, and an accountant that went to a top ranked school of accountancy is going to be infinitely more valuable then the guy they have to teach from the ground up.


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Depends what you go into. Marketing is all about knowing the consumer inside and out. If you end up in sales you are going to have to be great with people.
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    #19273515 - 12/14/13 05:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Now compare this to european and american way of doing thing. We plant corn, wheat etc. We've been doing in for centuries. That kind of farming requires a rush in the spring and a rush at harvest time. After that, there's nothing more to do, plus the winter is long. We picture peasants back in the day working 100 hours a week just to survive. Well, the truth is, they only worked on average 25 hours a week. Back in the day, there are hundreds of town that literally shut down during winter. The population hibernated. They slept more, ate less. Human hibernation. No work, nothing to do for the entire winter.






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    #19273551 - 12/14/13 06:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

asians are better at math because they spend more time in school :cookiemonster:


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Is premise of this thread even valid? Mathematics  is a pretty small field compared to the other sciences.


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    #19273870 - 12/14/13 09:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

doesnt everyone consider indians and pakistanis to be asians? after all, india and pakistan are in asia...


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Crystal G]
    #19273945 - 12/14/13 09:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Please also ask him if he considers his views representative for Europe. Because your initial statement was that in Europe, 'Asians' refers to the groups you mentioned.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: koraks]
    #19274210 - 12/14/13 11:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Please also ask him if he considers his views representative for Europe. Because your initial statement was that in Europe, 'Asians' refers to the groups you mentioned.




I initially said Europe, but later specified the UK. I personally don't know about the rest of Europe or what they call "Asians," because most other countries with the exception of a few speak a different native language.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Crystal G]
    #19274329 - 12/14/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

There's a literal translation for the word 'Asian' in all European languages as far as I know. And as far as I know, the term is usually used to refer to any kind of Asian. The fact that in the UK it is mostly used to refer to Pakistani and Indian is undoubtedly due to their history.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: koraks]
    #19274396 - 12/14/13 11:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yeah orientals were here on the west coast a long time ago

we say middle eastern or we really just say in conversation 'indian'


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: koraks]
    #19275346 - 12/14/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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There's a literal translation for the word 'Asian' in all European languages as far as I know. And as far as I know, the term is usually used to refer to any kind of Asian. The fact that in the UK it is mostly used to refer to Pakistani and Indian is undoubtedly due to their history.




No doubt. I was just responding to that guy who claimed that English people don't use the term "Asian" to describe Western or Southern Asians, simply because "he had a friend from London" and that he himself "has never heard of anybody using that term."

But, I actually remember, me and this same British guy had a very similar conversation like 6 months ago... he was watching some American television and he messaged me and asked me this question: "Howcome in America when you refer to somebody as "Asian," you're talking about Japanese or Korean or Chinese or Vietnamese? We call you guys Orientals, when we use the word "Asian" we are referring to Pakis and Indians mainly."

So then I had to explain to him that the term "Oriental" is considered offensive in America, but I couldn't really give an explanation as to why we don't refer to Middle Easterners as Asian. We mainly just call them Middle Easterners.

I did ask whether this applies to the rest of Europe or only England. But he's in a different time zone, so it might take at least 12 hours to respond.

Random anecdote, but women in Switzerland apparently love and have a fetish for Eastern Asian men.


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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Crystal G]
    #19275438 - 12/14/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Middle easterners are called "A Rabs" in Mercia.


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