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cronicr



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Re: should I shake these? PIC [Re: etdxx]
#19262326 - 12/11/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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etdxx said:
BEFORE spawning to bulk, when at 100%, you could shake them to give the myc a day or two head start. By the time you spawn to bulk, a day or two later, the myc is looking nice and sexy.
But yeah, I'd just wait it out until 100% is colonized.
...that makes no sense to me
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Re: should I shake these? PIC [Re: cronicr]
#19262550 - 12/11/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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ie: If spawning to bulk on 12/25, break up grains on 12/23. When its time to spawn, myc has already recovered.
Going back to the topic at hand, do not break up jar at 90% to colonize the last 10%. Wait until 100% then go from there.
Are you happy, cronicr?
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Re: should I shake these? PIC [Re: etdxx]
#19262575 - 12/11/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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no i'm not happy y make it recover twice
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Re: should I shake these? PIC [Re: cronicr]
#19262599 - 12/11/13 08:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I had read a while back about some people who thought that by letting the myc spend a day recovering before spawning it would speed up the spawn run or something, but I just wrote it off as BS when I saw it. IMO if you want your spawn run to get an extra days jump, dunk the spawn before mixing, works great.
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Re: should I shake these? PIC [Re: cronicr]
#19262659 - 12/11/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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LOL, you obviously dont get what I'm saying... I never recommended breaking up the grain twice.
@Pastywhyte - it works wonders. Breaking up grain in advance + dunking = turbo myc, so to speak.
Edited by etdxx (12/11/13 08:45 PM)
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Re: should I shake these? PIC [Re: etdxx]
#19262672 - 12/11/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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etdxx said: LOL, you obviously dont get what I'm saying... I never recommended breaking up the grain twice.
Pastywhyte takes the cake on this one - dead on.
That may be, but I don't recommend anyone try this, you want a fast recovery time, dunk your grains
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Re: should I shake these? PIC [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19262693 - 12/11/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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etdxx said: LOL, you obviously dont get what I'm saying... I never recommended breaking up the grain twice.
@Pastywhyte - it works wonders. Breaking up grain in advance + dunking = turbo myc, so to speak.
i completely understand what your saying, shake-wait a couple days-spawn, but it will recover in those couple days then your gonna break it all up again to spawn it, if it works for ya then great butQuote:
Pastywhyte said:
That may be, but I don't recommend anyone try this, you want a fast recovery time, dunk your grains 
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Re: should I shake these? PIC [Re: cronicr]
#19262725 - 12/11/13 08:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I suppose where we disagree is the notion behind whether or not you're "breaking it up again" when spawning it. I wouldn't recommend waiting until myc "reconnects" (3-4 days) - in 2 days, it simply starts growing again but there is nothing to "break up" after just a day or two... That's why I don't believe the myc is really being disturbed... just my opinion.
No biggie - I've been breaking grains 24hr before the dunk n' spawn, then boom add to sub. Not much different than what everyone else is doing. Thanks for the discussion, fellas !
Edited by etdxx (12/11/13 08:56 PM)
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Re: should I shake these? PIC [Re: etdxx]
#19262728 - 12/11/13 08:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: should I shake these? PIC [Re: cronicr]
#19262746 - 12/11/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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if you dunk your grains before spawning , aren't you wiping out some of the mycelium from the surface of the grains, how is that a positive when you are decreasing the mycelium biomass that goes into your bulk substrate
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etdxx


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Re: should I shake these? PIC [Re: loki44]
#19262769 - 12/11/13 09:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh boy, there's a huge thread started by Frank himself. The theory is the water lost during colonization is replenished during the dunk.
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Re: should I shake these? PIC [Re: etdxx]
#19262828 - 12/11/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah you may lose some but what remains is supercharged by the dunk and easily outpaces grains that are not dunked.
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Re: should I shake these? PIC [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19262927 - 12/11/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Yeah you may lose some but what remains is supercharged by the dunk and easily outpaces grains that are not dunked.
are you sure this works with cubes? I checked the OP in that thread and he is using another species. I just shook the jars and I couldn't help but notice that the grains are dry as fuck, like i couldn't see any moisture anywhere...
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Re: should I shake these? PIC [Re: cronicr]
#19262938 - 12/11/13 09:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Should they be pasty white in 24-48 hours after the shaking?
pasty came about 9 months after "shaking" took place

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Re: should I shake these? PIC [Re: loki44]
#19262951 - 12/11/13 09:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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loki44 said:
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Pastywhyte said: Yeah you may lose some but what remains is supercharged by the dunk and easily outpaces grains that are not dunked.
are you sure this works with cubes? I checked the OP in that thread and he is using another species. I just shook the jars and I couldn't help but notice that the grains are dry as fuck, like i couldn't see any moisture anywhere...
Bud, thats a 56 page thread - plenty of results to get your head around. No way the moderators would let a thread go 56 pages if it didn't add value to the message boards. Sounds like you're skeptical - read up the first 10 pages and you'll be convinced. Guaranteed or your money back.
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Re: should I shake these? PIC [Re: etdxx]
#19263122 - 12/11/13 10:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've lost track of how many tubs I have dunked the spawn on but I can tell you that for me at least it's standard procedure from now on.
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Re: should I shake these? PIC [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19263618 - 12/11/13 11:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: I've lost track of how many tubs I have dunked the spawn on but I can tell you that for me at least it's standard procedure from now on.

i also water my plants with it. and shake it now so it colonizes all the way then break it up again
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