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What did Nelson Mandela do for the United States?
    #19253946 - 12/10/13 05:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I understand that he played a significant role in helping the people of Africa, and ending soe of the obscene colonial policies that discriminated against blacks.  Of course it wasn't really cool if you were one of the innocents--white or black--on the violent end of the ANC's terrorist acts.  But I digress....


What did he do to improve and move forward the cause of the US....I list those things below:


Now, with them listed (cough) the US media is going nuts over him, Obama is down for the ceremony, blah blah blah. 

The US had a much more significant person that was much more influential in US policy and foreign affairs for many years--Margaret Thatcher.  sure, she was right and she was white, but why does it appear that to get any respect from the US media and president you have to be a communist, terrorist, or have a different color skin? 

Obama dissed MT but he's on his knees for NM?


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Re: What did Nelson Mandela do for the United States? [Re: starfire_xes] * 4
    #19253970 - 12/10/13 05:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yeah?  so?

what did YOU do for the United States?  Who gives a fuck about the USA--- in the context of Nelson Mandela?  He was an incredible human being who left a wonderful legacy... a strong voice for equality, so strong he could spend half a lifetime in prison convicted for his beliefs and then emerge and still have the motivation and the piece of mind to lead the people of his country.  He was an incredible man on Earth... so who gives a flying fuck what he gives to the US?? 

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Re: What did Nelson Mandela do for the United States? [Re: travelleler] * 2
    #19253986 - 12/10/13 05:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It's a shame you missed his point.


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Re: What did Nelson Mandela do for the United States? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19254001 - 12/10/13 05:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

His death has shown us how many racist pricks we still have here and how ignorant our population continues to be.


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Re: What did Nelson Mandela do for the United States? [Re: rougescientist]
    #19254384 - 12/10/13 08:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So don't be one. OP said nothing racist.


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Re: What did Nelson Mandela do for the United States? [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 2
    #19254409 - 12/10/13 08:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

What Mandela did for the US?

He said: "If there is a country that has committed unspeakable atrocities in the world, it is the United States of America. They don't care"


He simply put the US on top of the biggest tyrants of the world list


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Re: What did Nelson Mandela do for the United States? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19254734 - 12/10/13 10:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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So don't be one. OP said nothing racist.




Never said he was, but the backlash among some groups for the death of Mandela has shed light on how people really feel about race. Some celebrate him because he was a uniter and champion of rights, others hate him simply because of their prejudices against blacks, and still harbor the belief that they are inferior. This event just shed light on the state of racism in the USA. Just like when M. Thatcher died people revealed how they felt about different economic theories.


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Re: What did Nelson Mandela do for the United States? [Re: rougescientist]
    #19255238 - 12/10/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You forgot a category:

Some dislike him for his politics.

How telling you would leave that out. I think an event like this sheds light on shallow thinkers who just can't grasp that you can be opposed to what a person does/believes for reasons other than race.


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Re: What did Nelson Mandela do for the United States? [Re: rougescientist]
    #19255346 - 12/10/13 01:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

He spent 27 years in prison because he would not renounce terrorism.  Necklacing was invented by his group.  His wife, Winnie, was a fucking monster.  Pardon me if I don't join the deification of a flawed man


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Re: What did Nelson Mandela do for the United States? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19255631 - 12/10/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

hmm didn't know all that....



Margie Thatcher derserves some respect for sure.


Obama was inspired by the man---  how does it matter?


you know they say Abraham Lincoln raped black women... and Nixon was a Heroin addict.  People say a ton of shit.

I think for the current president I can see how nelson mandela might be a source of inspiration.


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Re: What did Nelson Mandela do for the United States? [Re: travelleler]
    #19255693 - 12/10/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Why?  The current President was born into privilege and never suffered a day in his bratty life


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Re: What did Nelson Mandela do for the United States? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19256952 - 12/10/13 06:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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It's a shame you missed his point.





It's a shame there was no point made.


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Re: What did Nelson Mandela do for the United States? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19256972 - 12/10/13 06:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Why?  The current President was born into privilege and never suffered a day in his bratty life




Just like your children!


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Re: What did Nelson Mandela do for the United States? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19257132 - 12/10/13 07:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

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Why?  The current President was born into privilege and never suffered a day in his bratty life




Just like your children!



Pretty much.  I sure as shit won't apologize for it.


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Re: What did Nelson Mandela do for the United States? [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #19257369 - 12/10/13 07:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So you will criticize someone for it, but you won't apologize for the same actions.  That's your stereotypical hypocritical GOPer for you.


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Re: What did Nelson Mandela do for the United States? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19258724 - 12/11/13 04:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Why?  The current President was born into privilege and never suffered a day in his bratty life






just like EVERY president I can think of since after Lincoln (who raped black people and smoked opium)...  i mean... shit man...

i mean-- if you look at the problems that still exist in S.A. then yeah it's a really fucked up place

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Nelson Mandela is still officially venerated as a saint, his smiling face appearing on countless posters, while the man himself, having solved all the problems of his native country, tours the world with a group of elders, including Kofi Annan and Jimmy Carter, to solve the problems of other countries; but while Mandela tours, his own country has descended into its own kind of hell.





and this is no different than the US president sending money to aid other countries or create industry in war torn middle east while people here are losing their homes and and their asses because the economy is bankrupt. 

if OP asked the question in the first place because the OP noticed flags flying at half-mast the day after Mandela's death--- well, it so happened to fucking be Pearl Harbor day and flags are always flown at half on Pearl Harbor day in honor of those in service to the country who gave their lives that day in 1941.  Which has nothing to do with Mr. Mandela.


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Re: What did Nelson Mandela do for the United States? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19258757 - 12/11/13 04:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
It's a shame you missed his point.





It's a shame there was no point made.




Right.

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Re: What did Nelson Mandela do for the United States? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19259474 - 12/11/13 10:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't really get your point.  Are you saying that the U.S. media should only focus on things that are important domestically?

Americans, by and large, are doing just fine.  Sure, we piss and moan about more taxation here, and excessive spending there, but those are first world problems that we have the luxury of worrying about while much of the world lives in squalor.  America didn't need Mandela to do anything for us.


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    #19259497 - 12/11/13 10:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: What did Nelson Mandela do for the United States? [Re: EddYerb]
    #19259509 - 12/11/13 10:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

First, I wasn't talking to you.  You'd have known that if you knew how the reply function works.

Second, why do you care who attends the dude's funeral?

Finally, why would Obama care about his treatment in the media anymore?  I don't see any indication that he gives a dead rat's ass at this point.


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