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MDMA: reflections
#19259137 - 12/11/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I tried MDMA for the first time yesterday. It was really good stuff. 100 mg got me extremely high and I feel like I got an understanding for what MDMA is all about. Stronger dose obviously equals stronger rush, but I was definitely feeling it.
A few things I noticed
For one, it had the opposite effect on me than I expected. Popular culture makes it seem like a crazy party drug, craving social interaction and whatnot. My experience was that of complete contentment, I had places to go, but I didn't care enough about anything to move from my apartment. I felt rooted in stillness.
It was also extremely mellow! I expected a much speedier feeling.
I didn't like the way if changed my perception of time. My favorite thing about lsd is the way each moment seems like so much more. Acid has an expanding effect on time perception. MDMA on the other hand put me in such a content state that time just sped by, before I knew it I was coming down. I compare to acid because it's my favorite, and I have the most experience with it.
Also the rush was excellent. Very intense. I could definitely see how someone with drug seeking behavior would start redosing. As soon as the peak started to subside I felt like I lost something. It took a little effort to find the satisfaction in the experience I just had and let it go. Once I did I felt great. I slept well and actually have a little bit of an afterglow today.
Just chilling in the lab drinking coffee and listening to music.
It's a good day
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Had lots of good times, but never again..
Honestly, now, I feel that lsa and shrooms can deliver many of those qualities much better. No chemmy feel. LSA isn't rushy but the feeling is there. Shrooms are all of the above and more. Nothing will make you hate mdma more than having something to do while in withdrawal. That being said, nothing will make you love it more than mixing it in an energy drink and tossing it down, dosing again just before or the start of the peak. Fuck yeah.
I miss it sometimes. Nothing has ever felt so fuzzy again..
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Re: MDMA: reflections [Re: Asante]
#19259276 - 12/11/13 09:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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you should squirt that up your anus next time, itll make that 100mg go further as well as give more of that rush. and 100mg is enough, especially if you aren't rolling often. sounds like you got good stuff since you felt mellow as with the purer stuff you can feel the intensity in your body but is serene instead of typically stimmy like other amphetamines.
i think if you take it with other people, you will see more of the empathogenic qualities of mdma. it sometimes takes a bit higher doses for the empathy to be present when you are alone.
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actual MDMA will mash you up good, OP. glad you got the good stuff, and not the "speedy" stuff.
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lovesexdubstep said: you should squirt that up your anus next time, itll make that 100mg go further as well as give more of that rush. and 100mg is enough, especially if you aren't rolling often.
100mg may be enough if taken rectally (I can't say because I have no experience) but is certainly not enough orally to achieve maximum desired effect in most people.
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Yeah MDMA feels great but I had had bad serotonin withdrawals the next half week. Take my advise not to rail MD because some people get inflamations in the nose and then they're prone to a cold. And also while MDMA is pretty funny, although after some shroom experiences it felt a little boring to me, but MD is surely good stuff to come down from an hppd episode induced by shrooms.
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The effects of a substance obviously differ person to person, but I have absolutely no clue how you guys can compare mushrooms to MDMA, I've tried mushrooms quite a few times in many different situations. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy mushrooms, but they will never give me the empathogenic effects that M will.
When I take mushrooms I feel very stoned, heavy, and I prefer to be alone for the most part. I find verbally communicating my thoughts on mushrooms makes me quite uncomfortable, and I'm better off just letting the visuals and emotions wash over me. The euphoria can be just as strong but its a different kind of euphoria, difficult to explain, but it sort of turns me inwards, into my mind and I feel as though I'm transported to a completely new place.
When I roll, communicating with other people is incredible, I feel as though there is an extremely powerful emotional bond. Also makes me love dancing and just moving around in general. The euphoria is something I want to share with everyone, the headspace is ridiculously lucid and I have the ability to contemplate issues without confusing myself like I do when I trip sometimes.
As I said though, the effects definitely differ.
As for time flying by OP, when massive amounts of serotonin are released, your short term memory is disrupted heavily, to the point where each preceding minute will seem new and exciting because you literally cant fully recall what happened about a minute ago, pretty crazy stuff.
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I love good molly now all u need to do OP is mix it with some shrooms,or cid,or both
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lovesexdubstep said: you should squirt that up your anus next time, itll make that 100mg go further as well as give more of that rush. and 100mg is enough, especially if you aren't rolling often.
100mg may be enough if taken rectally (I can't say because I have no experience) but is certainly not enough orally to achieve maximum desired effect in most people.
yeah, you know people's desires so well.
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real mdma should actually give you that lovey dovey puddled feeling over the speedy i wanna dance all night feeling
at least it sounds like u had real mdma, congrats on that
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Whitewater said: For one, it had the opposite effect on me than I expected. Popular culture makes it seem like a crazy party drug, craving social interaction and whatnot. My experience was that of complete contentment, I had places to go, but I didn't care enough about anything to move from my apartment. I felt rooted in stillness.
It was also extremely mellow! I expected a much speedier feeling.
Yea, that's a common misconception with mdma, that it's really uppity and stimulating, it can be for some people but generally for most it's mellow and calm. MDMA tends to be very chill and puddles me out, makes me want to sit around, feel good, listen to chill tunes, have conversation, meditate, and explore the tactile awesomeness. The sublime stillness that mdma induces is absolutely amazing for meditation though.
There's been times I've taken it in settings with music/dancing, and I really wanted to get up and dance, but was so puddled & content with where I was I continued to sit there and just danced in my head instead . That's not to say I've never danced my ass off through out a night while on mdma, once I get going it feels way too good to stop.
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I didn't like the way if changed my perception of time. My favorite thing about lsd is the way each moment seems like so much more. Acid has an expanding effect on time perception. MDMA on the other hand put me in such a content state that time just sped by, before I knew it I was coming down.
I know what you mean...MDMA, and other amps/stimulants in general, do tend to make time "compress" and go by quickly, compared to things like psychedelics that "dilate" time and stretch out moments.
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Also the rush was excellent. Very intense. I could definitely see how someone with drug seeking behavior would start redosing. As soon as the peak started to subside I felt like I lost something. It took a little effort to find the satisfaction in the experience I just had and let it go. Once I did I felt great. I slept well and actually have a little bit of an afterglow today.
Just chilling in the lab drinking coffee and listening to music.
It's a good day
Ah, that rushing feeling...I usually like to do things that will bring out the pure euphoric rushing sensation, with eyes closed and focusing on nothing but that euphoric rush. Rushes on rushes, euphoric euphoria.
There has been a few times where I feel that "loss", during that moment when the peak starts to subside, I definitely know what you mean...most of the time I slowly float back down to sobriety with out being able to pin point when I started to come down, but sometimes there is that sudden "drop off" in effects. Like you mentioned, it's just a matter of letting go of that and appreciating the experience. Even when that does happen, though, I'll still be in a very positive and uplifted mind state...and left with an afterglow even the days after.
It's some magical and very therapeutic stuff when used only occasionally...I like to take it once or twice a year for special occasions.
Did you take it alone?...Or were you around anyone while rolling?
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Re: MDMA: reflections [Re: openmind]
#19261176 - 12/11/13 04:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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mixing mdma and mda is best of both worlds
you get the lovey dovey feeling where everything is awesome and then with the sass u get the speedy and psychadelic effects...its a great combo
desperately trying to find sass before new years for this very reason lol
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Re: MDMA: reflections [Re: Bassfreak]
#19261242 - 12/11/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bassfreak said: mixing mdma and mda is best of both worlds
you get the lovey dovey feeling where everything is awesome and then with the sass u get the speedy and psychadelic effects...its a great combo
desperately trying to find sass before new years for this very reason lol
Indeed and agreed ...They go together well. I like a 70%/30% ratio of mdma/mda, give or take a bit. I find MDA does "hit" harder per milligram compared to mdma, so just a little bit.
I was going to mention that...because mdma alone tends to be almost too mellow depending on the setting/situation, I like to combine a wee bit of mda or a relatively small amount of LSD for more stimulation. And that added layer/aspect of psychedelia....especially if I plan on dancing a lot.
I just don't cross paths with mda all that often...but when I do, it's usually at the right time & space.
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Re: MDMA: reflections [Re: openmind]
#19261255 - 12/11/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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if im at a show only on mdma im more likely to go find new friends and talk the whole show than dance the whole time...but as long as i have fun thats really all that matters
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Re: MDMA: reflections [Re: openmind]
#19261270 - 12/11/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The first time I took MDMA at a high dose it reminded me how powerful drugs can be.
MDMA produces a euphoric effect, it's not exactly supposed to make you speedy, it's just that most ecstasy and MDMA is adulterated with speedy substances. So it's normal for you to just want to do your thing and that you didn't feel speedy.
Those with drug-seeking behavior who like to redose.. these people need to reflect. It's 100% psychological addiction/weak-willed. When euphoric effects of a non-addictive substance subside, you should perceive as a magical force riding off into the sunset, not being pushed off a cliff and 'losing your high'. That shouldn't be what it's about.
If you want to take more cos you feel like shit, that's a withdrawal. If you want to take more cos you want to feel good, re-evaluate the situation.
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i wish i had access to meth and knew anything about it
JUST so i could mix a tiny bit of meth with mdma...just to keep me up and going hard
i never minded rolls with a lil meth in them
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Re: MDMA: reflections [Re: Bassfreak]
#19261394 - 12/11/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was alone for most of it. I went to my neighbors for a bit. He was on acid, which was entertaining, but the environment was too chaotic so I left. I don't like tripping around him anyways - too crazy. I went to a small party briefly, but for most of the time I just wanted to sit on my couch and listen to tunes.
Honestly I was blown away, very impressed. I don't want to lose that magic feeling by overdoing it. A couple times a year is good. That's how I've been with psychadelics for the last 7 years and it's worked out well for me.
Next time I'm gonna dose with some old friends.
Also: I wish I could find MDA. If I were so lucky I would give the mix a try
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Bassfreak said: i wish i had access to meth and knew anything about it
JUST so i could mix a tiny bit of meth with mdma...just to keep me up and going hard
i never minded rolls with a lil meth in them
With the very few pressed pills I tried back in the day (less than 10 in my life), I had a couple that definitely had some speed in them, probably only speed in them lol. At the time it was far too much, I was spun like no other....out of my gourd.
I too have wanted to combine a very small amount of meth with mdma, mainly if I'm looking to be up and dancing, not in the case of just chillin' with a few close friends indoors for the night. Mainly for the stimulation, and I'm really curious what the synergy of the highly dopaminergic meth would have with the primarily serotonergic mdma.
But just a little, a very small amount...like smoking a few hits or taking a tiny bump or two up the nose once the mdma takes hold. I can only imagine these two together would be potentially more neuro-toxic than either of them taken alone...as well as making the comedown a bit rougher, and possibly creating more of a "hang over" (mdma never gives me a hang over or bad come down, and I've tried meth a few times and it doesn't have any sort of harsh comedown or hang over for me either).
In the proper amounts/ratio, I can see these going together very well for dancing, and that's about it , I can't see any other situation where I'd combine the two. Meth alone is reminiscent of mdma in my experience, just less lovey dovey, less "magic", more clear headed, and more stimulating.
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Whitewater said: I was alone for most of it. I went to my neighbors for a bit. He was on acid, which was entertaining, but the environment was too chaotic so I left. I don't like tripping around him anyways - too crazy. I went to a small party briefly, but for most of the time I just wanted to sit on my couch and listen to tunes.
Honestly I was blown away, very impressed. I don't want to lose that magic feeling by overdoing it. A couple times a year is good. That's how I've been with psychadelics for the last 7 years and it's worked out well for me.
Next time I'm gonna dose with some old friends.
Also: I wish I could find MDA. If I were so lucky I would give the mix a try

I've been wanting to have a solo session with mdma, spending most of the experience in meditation/inward....but the stuff makes me want to be in the company of others so much that I don't know if I ever will.
Some of the best nights of my life have been rolling with a few close friends, conversation and chill tunes. You'll dig it .
The most frequent I ever took mdma was once a month for a few months in a row (150mg to 200mg), never really lost the magic....but I like to keep it for special occasions now, only a couple times a year, I get much more out of the experience.
Also...nitrous oxide is highly suggested with mdma. By far the most euphoric, most content, most peaceful on cloud 9 moments ever will result from inhaling it while rolling .
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