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Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk
#19259109 - 12/11/13 08:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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By Travis Gettys Tuesday, December 10, 2013 15:05 EST New research has found little link between marijuana use and schizophrenia, contrary to previous studies that suggested pot-smoking adolescents were at greater risk of developing the mental illness.
A recent study conducted at Harvard Medical School compared families with a history of schizophrenia and those without such a history, and it’s the first family study to examine non-psychotic cannabis users and non-cannabis users as independent sample groups.
While marijuana use seemed to have an effect on the age of onset for schizophrenia, researchers found that family risk was the crucial underlying factor.
“The results of the current study suggest that having an increased familial morbid risk for schizophrenia may be the underlying basis for schizophrenia in cannabis users and not cannabis use by itself,” the researchers found.
The study examined 282 people from the New York and Boston areas who were divided into four groups: those with no lifetime history of psychotic illness, cannabis or any other drug use; those with no lifetime history of psychotic illness, and a history of heavy cannabis use during adolescence, but no other drug use; patients with no lifetime history of cannabis use or any other drug and less than 10 years of being ill; patients with a history of heavy cannabis use and no other drug use during adolescence and prior to the onset of psychosis.
Researchers asked the subjects about their family history of mental illness and drug use, which expanded the study to include nearly 4,300 people.
The study, which was published earlier this month in Schizophrenia Research, found evidence to suggest that cannabis users were more likely to develop depression or bipolar disorders, but the scientists said more research was needed to understand the relationship.
The researchers also found that drug abuse itself appears to have an important genetic component.
“Drug abuse is present more frequently in family members of all three samples compared to those of non-cannabis abusing controls,” the researchers said. “This is in line with past research confirming a genetic predisposition for drug use.”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/10/study-finds-no-link-between-teen-pot-use-and-schizophrenia-risk/
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Simplepowa]
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They say cannabis can actually increase the cognitive functioning of the schizo's. As a shamanic allie it can help shape mental processes. Cannabis is a big magnifier for the ego to look at subconscious processes. This can be good if your a willing explorer, but bad if you just wanna look!
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Morel Guy]
#19259192 - 12/11/13 08:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i guess that's another nail in the coffin for the anti-Marijuana peeps round here.
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: akira_akuma]
#19259264 - 12/11/13 09:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's because it's not true, and a bunch of greedy, cock sucking psycopaths make up these tyrannical laws.
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: happygolucky] 1
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I never read a Jefferson quotation with "cock sucking" in it before..
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: egodeathflux]
#19260452 - 12/11/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Great. Weed still sucks though.
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: un-known-ome]
#19261650 - 12/11/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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un-known-ome said: Great. Weed still sucks though.
Nah you still suck.
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Repertoire89]
#19261663 - 12/11/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wll it seems there is a link to depression and bi-polar disorder, but they need more evidence.
Depression would make sense as marijuana is a depressant.
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: ChinChiller]
#19261670 - 12/11/13 05:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Errolscool said: Wll it seems there is a link to depression and bi-polar disorder, but they need more evidence.
"They need more evidence" = There is no link.
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Depression would make sense as marijuana is a depressant.
Marijuana is a respiratory depressant if I'm not mistaken.
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Repertoire89]
#19261792 - 12/11/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's sure as hell a bronchodilator. As a light asthmatic I can tell you that it's certainly helped me be able to get deeper breaths, and I live in a house with two smokers. Come to think of it, Che Guevara used cannabis as well because it helped alleviate his severe asthma symptoms. I'll also tell you, as a heart patient with an artificial aortic valve, cannabis lowers the blood pressure. Due to my valve, my blood pressure is a bit higher than the normal bp is supposed to be. When using cannabis, my bp reads lower, at least in the doctor's office. And those aren't even the reasons I use it. I use it because it relieves my stress and anxiety levels and makes it so I enjoy life more than I would when not smoking it. So I guess if your bp is normal and your lungs are at max capacity 24/7 and you have no health concerns whatsoever, and you have no stress, anxiety, or depression to speak of, I'm sure cannabis probably does suck. Because how else can millions of cannabis users possibly be wrong?
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Repertoire89]
#19262020 - 12/11/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Repertoire89 said:
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un-known-ome said: Great. Weed still sucks though.
Nah you still suck.
My name isn't "weed." Still sucks. It's not this miraculous plant that's going to change the world if it becomes legal. People are just going to get high, like they have been, and nothing will change. And then after a little while after legalization is cool, people won't give a shit anymore. That day cannot come soon enough.
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: ChinChiller]
#19262116 - 12/11/13 07:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Errolscool said: Wll it seems there is a link to depression and bi-polar disorder, but they need more evidence.
Depression would make sense as marijuana is a depressant.
Cannabis is a muscle relaxant, so it seems more like a depressant than a stimulant. However, cannabis does not have the risk of slowing breathing down, like alcohol does, as nobody has ever died of a cannabis overdose, so it can't be a true depressant
cannabis increases heart rate, but I have also heard that this is because the material is being smoked and that the blood vessels are dilated.
classified as a hallucinogen
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: un-known-ome]
#19262124 - 12/11/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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My name isn't "weed." Still sucks.

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It's not this miraculous plant that's going to change the world if it becomes legal.
Miracle plant?
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People are just going to get high, like they have been, and nothing will change. And then after a little while after legalization is cool, people won't give a shit anymore. That day cannot come soon enough.
If all the judgmental puritanical assholes ever decide to fuck off and mind their own business, yeah that day can't come soon enough.
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Repertoire89]
#19262270 - 12/11/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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My name isn't "weed." Still sucks.


swing and a miss!
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: akira_akuma]
#19262362 - 12/11/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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My name isn't "weed." Still sucks.


swing and a miss!
Yeah, no shit! Kinda makes me think of a house party where 100+ people are having a good time and then along comes to ruin the fun.
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
#19262402 - 12/11/13 07:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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plenty of those blushing confused steve's to try and tell people that "weed sucks", and tell you why...
just another case of "my drug's better then yours" type mentality.
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: akira_akuma]
#19262508 - 12/11/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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akira_akuma said: plenty of those blushing confused steve's to try and tell people that "weed sucks", and tell you why...
just another case of "my drug's better then yours" type mentality. 
Shit son yo hair-own got nuttin on my
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
#19262662 - 12/11/13 08:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well this basically just confirmed my beliefs about pot use. If you're predisposed to be schizophrenic or have any other mental disorder, which is usually the result of being raised in a dysfunctional family (your parents are batshit crazy), and if you're just naturally neurotic, you shouldn't smoke weed.
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
#19262799 - 12/11/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i smoke dirt and kill kids, yo, i'm way more gansta as fuck then you meff smokin' fools.* see spoiler for official note on not killing kids -- A_A to NSA
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: akira_akuma]
#19263055 - 12/11/13 09:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
#19263152 - 12/11/13 10:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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you see, the literal "shithead" (piece of shit with a head) is talking mad shit... cause he's an uber-gangstard. 
at least someone gets it!1
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: akira_akuma]
#19264560 - 12/12/13 07:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Indica's help schizo disorders and bi-polar. You can still have manic ideas but honestly it's not going to help some people. It helps the people who are just a little bit nutty. I've smoked with a couple people who were so nuts you couldn't make sense of anything they said. Now weed usually was a fuel for them, but it was usually thc strong herb and not cbd rich. I've always thought weed helped me, but I can usually handle having thoughts which are abnormal. It helps the mood problems better than anything else. I think it usually helps my sense of being nuerotic, but there are dicks that think they can do whatever they want when using drugs. It's a fuel for sure, some of us need power!
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Morel Guy]
#19264828 - 12/12/13 08:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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CBD/thc-less strains help Anyway no shit weed isn't that powerful of well a drug but regardless developing minds do not need thc or any other trauma's THC does in fact have results on brain function in the way that people use and most likely the way it will be legalized
It's still up for arguement whether or not people are smoking pesticide when they smoke pot imo
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: akira_akuma]
#19265468 - 12/12/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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“The results of the current study suggest that having an increased familial morbid risk for schizophrenia may be the underlying basis for schizophrenia in cannabis users and not cannabis use by itself,” the researchers found.
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Konyap]
#19265496 - 12/12/13 12:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Illyabo said: CBD/thc-less strains help Anyway no shit weed isn't that powerful of well a drug but regardless developing minds do not need thc or any other trauma's THC does in fact have results on brain function in the way that people use and most likely the way it will be legalized
It's still up for arguement whether or not people are smoking pesticide when they smoke pot imo
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Konyap]
#19266849 - 12/12/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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but regardless developing minds do not need thc or any other trauma's THC does in fact have results on brain function
Sources.
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Repertoire89]
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. Triggers about six apoptotic pathways is CB positive tumours cells
Negative: 1. Destruction of cannabinoid receptors 2. Withrdawal encompassing nausea and anorexia (but that is the result of 1.) 3. Delusional paranoia 4. Damage to the lungs (not thc but smoking weed which most people do to intake thc) 5. Lowering testosterone (not sure how bad that is ) 6. Inhibits the immune system 7. Lowers intracellular levels of cyclic adenosine monophosphate in CB positive cells. It happens in the cerebulum (loss of coordination), the hippocampus (temporary memory loss), Globus pallidus (inhibition of incoming information processing, i.e. u start to notice more things). 8. Interferes with the energy balance system of the organism. THC activates SREBP proteins and in turn fatty acid metabolism is activated. You get higher levels of fats in your blood. 9. Its bad for the heart. Reason: connected to 8.
-lower sperm count -lowered testosterone -increased estrogen -v02max decreased -memory inhibition -loss of dreams -REM cycle severely disrupted
Marijuana lowering sperm count:
"Users of cigarettes, marijuana or alcohol showed no decrease in sperm, count, motility or percentage of oval sperm, and no difference in prevalence of antisperm antibodies compared to nonusers"
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=5519817
Lowering testosterone and increasing estrogen:
The jury is still out on this it seems:
"Plasma testosterone, FSH, and LH levels were obtained from 25 healthy consecutive heterosexual male marijuana smoking university students. All values were within the range of normal and the means did not differ significantly from those of 13 normal controls. These data suggest that the casual marijuana smoker (at least one time weekly with an average of 5.1 joints per week) may have plasma testosterone levels which are normal for the time of day and the laboratory. "
http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~db=all~content=a784886583
and
"In the 35 years since the active compound of marijuana, delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol, was isolated, the psychological and physiological impact of marijuana use has been actively investigated. Animal models have demonstrated that cannabinoid administration acutely alters multiple hormonal systems, including the suppression of the gonadal steroids, growth hormone, prolactin, and thyroid hormone and the activation of the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis. These effects are mediated by binding to the endogenous cannabinoid receptor in or near the hypothalamus. Despite these findings in animals, the effects in humans have been inconsistent, and discrepancies are likely due in part to the development of tolerance. The long-term consequences of marijuana use in humans on endocrine systems remain unclear. "
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Konyap]
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http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=5519817
http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~db=all~content=a784886583
First study only had 164 participants (not enough) specifically from infertile couples (...), invalid.
The second link just led to a search engine.
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Repertoire89]
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http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=5519817
http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~db=all~content=a784886583
First study only had 164 participants (not enough) specifically from infertile couples (...), invalid.
The second link just led to a search engine.
I don't want to sound like a dick bro but uh... don't you think it's at all possible that marijuana has some negative side effects, albeit minor ones? Like, don't you think that's at all in the realm of possibility? Or is marijuana just above reproach in every single regard? Because when potheads insist that it is, they sound like silly faggots. That's my marijuana gripe no .1.
Guess what? MAYBE KIDS AGES 16 AND UNDER SHOULDN'T BE GETING HIGH. Get over yourself and shut the fuck up. Don't give me or anyone that "sources" bullshit answer. Go fuck yourself.
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: un-known-ome]
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http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=5519817
http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~db=all~content=a784886583
First study only had 164 participants (not enough) specifically from infertile couples (...), invalid.
The second link just led to a search engine.
I don't want to sound like a dick bro but uh... don't you think it's at all possible that marijuana has some negative side effects, albeit minor ones? Like, don't you think that's at all in the realm of possibility? Or is marijuana just above reproach in every single regard? Because when potheads insist that it is, they sound like silly faggots. That's my marijuana gripe no .1.
Guess what? MAYBE KIDS AGES 16 AND UNDER SHOULDN'T BE GETING HIGH. Get over yourself and shut the fuck up. Don't give me or anyone that "sources" bullshit answer. Go fuck yourself.
Mad?
Where is your evidence to support marijuana's negative effects?
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Repertoire89]
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Repertoire89 said:
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http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=5519817
http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~db=all~content=a784886583
First study only had 164 participants (not enough) specifically from infertile couples (...), invalid.
The second link just led to a search engine.
I don't want to sound like a dick bro but uh... don't you think it's at all possible that marijuana has some negative side effects, albeit minor ones? Like, don't you think that's at all in the realm of possibility? Or is marijuana just above reproach in every single regard? Because when potheads insist that it is, they sound like silly faggots. That's my marijuana gripe no .1.
Guess what? MAYBE KIDS AGES 16 AND UNDER SHOULDN'T BE GETING HIGH. Get over yourself and shut the fuck up. Don't give me or anyone that "sources" bullshit answer. Go fuck yourself.
Mad?
Where is your evidence to support marijuana's negative effects?

Your existence would be a place to start.
But seriously, are you adopting the whole religion vs science argument, that I have to provide evidence when making a positive claim? Because I'm not. It actually works the other way around. You would have to provide evidence that lighting something on fire and smoking it doesn't have any negative effects whatsoever. Because if you really want to get into this, you will be made to look like a fool. Your intelligence or lack thereof will be insulted to the extent that you will need therapy to get over it, and you're only recourse will be to spend the rest of your life in a marijuana-induced stupor due to the inability to face the shame of your own retardation.
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: un-known-ome]
#19272381 - 12/13/13 08:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Your existence would be a place to start.
But seriously, are you adopting the whole religion vs science argument, that I have to provide evidence when making a positive claim? Because I'm not. It actually works the other way around. You would have to provide evidence that lighting something on fire and smoking it doesn't have any negative effects whatsoever. Because if you really want to get into this, you will be made to look like a fool. Your intelligence or lack thereof will be insulted to the extent that you will need therapy to get over it, and you're only recourse will be to spend the rest of your life in a marijuana-induced stupor due to the inability to face the shame of your own retardation.
You're claiming that marijuana is harmful and that I believe it has no negative side effects, back up your claims or they're worthless.
This isn't about religion.
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Konyap]
#19272391 - 12/13/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why don't you ask Willie Nelson about negative effects from using cannabis? He'll be more than happy to tell you.
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Repertoire89]
#19272971 - 12/13/13 11:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Your existence would be a place to start.
But seriously, are you adopting the whole religion vs science argument, that I have to provide evidence when making a positive claim? Because I'm not. It actually works the other way around. You would have to provide evidence that lighting something on fire and smoking it doesn't have any negative effects whatsoever. Because if you really want to get into this, you will be made to look like a fool. Your intelligence or lack thereof will be insulted to the extent that you will need therapy to get over it, and you're only recourse will be to spend the rest of your life in a marijuana-induced stupor due to the inability to face the shame of your own retardation.
You're claiming that marijuana is harmful and that I believe it has no negative side effects, back up your claims or they're worthless.
This isn't about religion.
Why don't you go suck your own *****. Your tactical evasion of actually engaging in a conversation/argument is petty, at best. You've not been poignant at all. And you already set the precedent that you're not backing up anything, just talking out of your ass, so I'm just playing by your rules.
mod edit: No flaming
Edited by Alan Rockefeller (12/14/13 03:45 AM)
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: un-known-ome]
#19273008 - 12/13/13 11:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why don't you go suck your own prick. Your tactical evasion of actually engaging in a conversation/argument is petty, at best. You've not been poignant at all. And you already set the precedent that you're not backing up anything, just talking out of your ass, so I'm just playing by your rules.
I've consistently backed up my claims when asked, going back up to the question at hand:
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but regardless developing minds do not need thc or any other trauma's THC does in fact have results on brain function
Sources.
The original assertion was made by Illyabo, I asked for sources which he provided. I disagree with the validity of the sources provided and have yet to receive a response. Now here you come
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: un-known-ome]
#19273017 - 12/13/13 11:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just an fyi I'm delegating you to my ignore list  While moderately amusing up to this point, I'd rather not have other threads contaminated by this bathroom wall-style posting.
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Repertoire89]
#19273397 - 12/14/13 03:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Repertoire89]
#19274029 - 12/14/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: Just an fyi I'm delegating you to my ignore list  While moderately amusing up to this point, I'd rather not have other threads contaminated by this bathroom wall-style posting.
It's better than being a smug SoB who condescends other posters. So someone calls you out and then they go right on the ignore list, eh? I seriously did not see that coming.
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Konyap]
#19274091 - 12/14/13 10:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Illyabo said: dude http://www.growery.org/3151/Cannibis-Notice
Very interesting studies, although according to the health land links at least the risk is relatively benign. I've personally had issues with marijuana as well as psychedelics in the past where they definitively worsened seperate psychotic episodes, on the other hand the effect is overall mostly positive (not that anecdotal evidence means much of anything).
It looks to me like those studies you linked demonstrate the relative safety of marijuana more than anything
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: un-known-ome]
#19274123 - 12/14/13 10:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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By the way, I love the attitude that this community has adopted towards marijuana. Someone comes in with even the mere suggestion of an anti-marijuana claim and posters just go for the kill. Perhaps showing their true colors. Like
-"you know, marijuana might not--" -"Nope fuck you you're wrong your full of shit and I hope you die." -"jeez I only meant--" -"no seriously we will all murder you in your sleep"
I'm sorry I just never hopped aboard the "marijuana is faultless" train that so many of you seem to be aboard. It's obviously convenient for anyone who smokes to subscribe to that belief, but maybe you need be brought down a few pegs and be a little less biased, because it sounds every bit as silly as the assertion that it makes Mexicans rape white women.
Or wait wait wait: do I need sources?
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Repertoire89]
#19274379 - 12/14/13 11:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Illyabo said: dude http://www.growery.org/3151/Cannibis-Notice
Very interesting studies, although according to the health land links at least the risk is relatively benign. I've personally had issues with marijuana as well as psychedelics in the past where they definitively worsened seperate psychotic episodes, on the other hand the effect is overall mostly positive (not that anecdotal evidence means much of anything).
It looks to me like those studies you linked demonstrate the relative safety of marijuana more than anything
ermmmm drugs are bad more so alcohol and ciggerettes with atrophy and narrowing of the veins walls mm'kay
but you can't say pot wouldn't have an effect on the developing brain mm'kay
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Konyap]
#19274645 - 12/14/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It might, but I didn't see any evidence for significant effects on the developing brain in those links. Personally I wouldn't give marijuana to a child, but that's just a precaution in lieu of more evidence
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Repertoire89]
#19274668 - 12/14/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i may not have the links on me but the fact is there are changes PHYSICALLY there lol
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Re: Study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk [Re: Konyap]
#19274733 - 12/14/13 01:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Illyabo said: i may not have the links on me but the fact is there are changes PHYSICALLY there lol
We'll have to agree to this agree then for the time being, I'm skeptical about my own experiences let alone unverified 3rd party information
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