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Did NA help anyone here?
    #19259098 - 12/11/13 08:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I have personally been to rehab/NA before for marijuana. I was just wondering how people felt about NA. It didn't help me at all and actually made me go back to smoking marijuana for a while. I have been sober by choice without the help of NA for about a year and it is a lot easier when someone isn't telling me god is the only way to stay sober. While I do try to practice spirituality I think the message there is bullshit and they brainwash a lot of addicts when they are vulnerable. If there is a god like that, then surely he isn't helping people through their addiction. The one thing they have completely missed is the fact that being sober has everything to do with your own choices and nothing to do with believing that spirituality is helping you through it. I actually have heard someone say "I feel like the minority because I am a Christian". It is stupid because they say anyone can go regardless of what religion they are but if you aren't a Christian you don't fit in. These people have taken the hardest drugs and have been led to think that every drug is as bad as their drug of choice. On one hand I think it is good people can be helped from it but on the other hand I feel like setting rules for sobriety is ridiculous and it seems like it just makes it harder to be sober.


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Re: Did NA help anyone here? [Re: mindgnome]
    #19259127 - 12/11/13 08:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Its helped some of my friends out, and its a good way to meet sober people, good way to socialize if you want to stay away from activities that revolve around drinking.  For me, I always left NA meetings wanting to get high more than when I walked in the door.  I never really tried to stop everything though, so it didn't really apply to me.  I guess I took some little things from it, but I found out most of the shit from trial and error.  NA for weed is fucking retarded btw.


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Re: Did NA help anyone here? [Re: fapjack]
    #19259140 - 12/11/13 08:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Lol yeah I know but I did it so the city would drop three charges I had. I definitely agree though. I didn't even want to smoke weed anymore but after those meetings I just wanted to smoke to not be in with that mentality. I got all of the charges I wanted dropped though which is good. I find being sober is a lot easier for me without having people to tell me how hard it is because it is not hard at all.


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"Psychedelic drugs don't change you - they don't change your character - unless you want to be changed. They enable change; they can't impose it...” - Sasha Shulgin


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Re: Did NA help anyone here? [Re: mindgnome]
    #19259178 - 12/11/13 08:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think It's a mechanism for people who wont do things for themselves that deprives them of instant gratification.
You have to surrender your will to the system and give it credit for your subsequent success or failure.
Like one last pit-stop of no-accountedness on the downward spiral to ruin.
Still, I think dealing with addiction is just treating one symptom of a pervasive trend of human emptiness.  It does nothing to address the rewardlessness of a machine life where the individual is best when employed by a system being built to make itself dependent.


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Re: Did NA help anyone here? [Re: Mitchnast]
    #19259222 - 12/11/13 09:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

NA isn't a christian organization. And it is belief in a "higher power," whatever that may be to you. I do agree with a lot of what you said though.


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Re: Did NA help anyone here? [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #19259262 - 12/11/13 09:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

but you got to wonder why a lot of these meetings are held in the basement of catholic churches, the church dosnt have a good record for tolerating different cults, but A.A. is groovy?


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Re: Did NA help anyone here? [Re: hidenseek1]
    #19261972 - 12/11/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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hidenseek1 said:
but you got to wonder why a lot of these meetings are held in the basement of catholic churches, the church dosnt have a good record for tolerating different cults, but A.A. is groovy?



the groups need somewhere to meet and churches generally let them have their meeting for free, I believe. It's not always catholic churches...


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