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opiate motivation? 1
#19258858 - 12/11/13 06:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Recently I've started smoking fentanyl. I like to use it as a reward at the end of the day and a sleep aid ( that also feels pretty good). I don't smoke it every day but since I've started I've noticed I've been full of motivation to get shit done. When I wake up in the morning I have a faint afterglow and I get right out of bed with no fuss anymore and I feel alert and refreshed and ready to take on the day. I haven't missed a single class or been late to work I'm the last 2 weeks, I was really starting to lose motivation for shit and was getting terrible sleep and just feeling not great until now.
I don't know if its cause of the fentanyl or because I'm getting better sleep because of it that I suddenly feel refreshed and full of motivation . does anyone else feel like this from opiates/opiods?
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Re: opiate motivation? [Re: allister]
#19258905 - 12/11/13 06:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah sometimes I use to get that from perks. Never did it everyday though. Or even every month. Be careful with that shit though. Before you wake up 5 years later unable to sleep or be motivated without some sort of opiate in your system.
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Re: opiate motivation? [Re: allister] 1
#19258945 - 12/11/13 07:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Opiates do that... Make you feel great that is. I'd be careful though, even if you manage to keep your usage stable, opiates seem to short circuit the work vs reward system of the brain. The nothing in real life can give you the same amount of joy for such little effort. For me that was the biggest thing to deal with. Eventually nothing in normal life seemed worth the immense amount of effort it took to achieve. Why bust my ass for long periods of time for the tiniest amounts of pleasure, joy, and satisfaction when there are things that can make you feel much better for much less effort. I actually think it is something that any serious opiate user never forgets. Deep down, no matter what you are doing, you will always know that there are better feelings available for much less work.
Surprisingly it all ended up being sort of a spiritual thing for me. The final blow to the reality of the games of life. Truly understanding that all the things that people think are important don't mean shit. Jobs, friends, families, it's all just chasing those good moments in life and the little glow you get when things go well. When you can just buy a better glow it really makes all of that stuff and effort that goes along with it seem pointless.
I'm sort of ok with the whole freedom from the games of life thing. But at the same time it makes me hopelessly out of place here on planet earth. When I am completely and totally honest with myself I understand that there is very little left to keep me occupied as a human. Nothing that our world or our societies can provide is all that interesting or believable. Basically on the deepest level I'm just biding my time until I die and get to see if there is anything else out there.
Mushrooms help because they can allow us to experience things that should not be possible from within normal human states of mind. I mean, some of the stuff in there is pretty darn unique and unlike anything we get to see and do and feel out here in our day to day life.
You might want to eventually look into kratom. If you are used to fentynal it isn't going to blow you away. But once you put your brain's work/reward system in complete shambles it will at least allow you a small taste of joy here and there as you go about your day to day life. Give you something to keep you occupied and ok with a life that is otherwise just hard work and minimal satisfaction.
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Yeah I know that I'm playing with fire, that's why I have rules set for myself. I also don't use them as an escape, I know people that use drugs as an escape and they have serious addiction problems. Not to say that I'm not just as prone to addiction though.. If I thought that then it'd be a fast track to addiction in my opinion.
I also don't like to get so fucked up that I start nodding, I just like a little relaxing buzz that just gives me motivation while still staying productive if I want to do something.
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Re: opiate motivation? [Re: allister]
#19263496 - 12/11/13 11:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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opiates make me productive as hell, as long as im not nodding out
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Re: opiate motivation? [Re: allister]
#19263546 - 12/11/13 11:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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allister said: Yeah I know that I'm playing with fire, that's why I have rules set for myself. I also don't use them as an escape, I know people that use drugs as an escape and they have serious addiction problems. Not to say that I'm not just as prone to addiction though.. If I thought that then it'd be a fast track to addiction in my opinion.
I also don't like to get so fucked up that I start nodding, I just like a little relaxing buzz that just gives me motivation while still staying productive if I want to do something.
I started out rarely using opiates just to have fun every once in a while, I too had rules set for my self, only use X amount every X amount of days, etc... here I am ~5 years later an opiate addict...
Not saying it's gonna happen to you, but it's a very real possibility.
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Re: opiate motivation? [Re: allister]
#19263873 - 12/12/13 12:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Smoking fent is a great way to a quick habit and high tolerance. If you enjoy that and you don't already have a tolerance I'd be suprised. Are you a CP patient?
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be especially careful with fentanyl btw...it's dangerous
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To be honest I can see where people are coming from, I like it a lot because it just seems to enhance life when you have a light opiate buzz. Thats how I used weed when I used to smoke every day, I found that life was just enhanced when I was baked, but later gave that up in favor of keeping a sharp mind (I also started getting anxiety from weed randomly).The difference now is that opiates are incredibly physically addictive so it's not quite the same as using weed as a life enhancer, seems like in the long run it can do much the oposite.
I still hardly have a tolerance, I normally have to take gravol to not feel constant nausea even from just a little bit. Maybe I should quit while I'm ahead, although tbh I don't really want to. Part of me wants to prove I can avoid dependence, but everyone tells me not to even bother.
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Re: opiate motivation? [Re: allister]
#19265679 - 12/12/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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allister said: To be honest I can see where people are coming from, I like it a lot because it just seems to enhance life when you have a light opiate buzz. Thats how I used weed when I used to smoke every day, I found that life was just enhanced when I was baked, but later gave that up in favor of keeping a sharp mind (I also started getting anxiety from weed randomly).The difference now is that opiates are incredibly physically addictive so it's not quite the same as using weed as a life enhancer, seems like in the long run it can do much the oposite.
I still hardly have a tolerance, I normally have to take gravol to not feel constant nausea even from just a little bit. Maybe I should quit while I'm ahead, although tbh I don't really want to. Part of me wants to prove I can avoid dependence, but everyone tells me not to even bother.
They're very comfortable, but its deaths embrace you're feeling eventually.
I'd stop while you're ahead Maybe a trip is in order?
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Re: opiate motivation? [Re: st1llnox]
#19265795 - 12/12/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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st1llnox said: Maybe a trip is in order?
ah perhaps, it has been a while.. I think I shall do this.
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Re: opiate motivation? [Re: allister]
#19268518 - 12/12/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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allister said: Part of me wants to prove I can avoid dependence
Not with smoking fent. That is the crack of opiates. IMO you're already in pretty deep if you're doing that. Dangerous shit with a tolerance. You will find yourself in a pickle real quick.
I doubt tripping will help. I honestly can't see this ending in a way that isn't at least a little trainwreckish.
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yeah I never had an issue at all with opiates unti I started doing fent. That shit had me strung the fuck out constantly for days as soon as I started using it. Shits a ton more fiendish than heroin thats for sure.
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Re: opiate motivation? [Re: deladude]
#19268550 - 12/12/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why I cautioned you is, like the above couple posters, fent is the one opiate above even Percs and Dillies that got unsuspecting people addicted.
Just be safe, please OP? If you think maybe you should stop, PROBLY you should stop
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Re: opiate motivation? [Re: st1llnox]
#19268553 - 12/12/13 11:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Also, mark on a calendar the days you do it and how many times.
I could've sworn I was drinking 2.5 or MAYBE 3 times a week, until I put it on a calendar...
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Re: opiate motivation? [Re: deladude]
#19268560 - 12/12/13 11:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah I think it is a pretty shitty high compared to other opiates. Its a little too clean headwise, with lots of side effects. Feels like you want to do more, but then
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Honestly, having tried codeine, hydrocodone, Tramadol, oxycodone (Percs) and hydromorphone, I think I can say Kratom's my favorite but I'm really curious to try Fent someday to see how it compares. TBH I might have to put Percs above Kratom, but it's been so long it's hard to say and Kratom would still be a very close second.
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