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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: MarkostheGnostic] * 2
    #19257391 - 12/10/13 08:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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MarkostheGnostic said:
You are a racist, and as I have zero interest in communicating with haters, this will be my final words with you. :bye:





Well I see you're using the personalism card.  Good play. :monkeydance:


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: Icelander]
    #19257510 - 12/10/13 08:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Icelander said:
Quote:

MarkostheGnostic said:
You are a racist, and as I have zero interest in communicating with haters, this will be my final words with you. :bye:





Well I see you're using the personalism card.  Good play. :monkeydance:




Meh, Sneezing explicitly owned up to being racist.  IMO he made it personal by using himself in his argument.

The only thing I found amusing was that MtG replied to Tmethyl as opposed to Sneezing, probably not a good mistake to make...

Edit:

Quite personally I may add that I'm glad that I don't have to live near uneducated, racist hicks here in Portland.. and thanks to the ignore feature, I don't have to virtually either.  That's directed to no one in particular :ohwell:.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #19257640 - 12/10/13 09:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Markos, your constant childish outbursts requiring warnings and bans every few months for going on years now are really getting boring. PS&P is for adults to discuss controversial topics without throwing childish temper tantrums and name calling as you have a long history of doing here.

If you are unable to control your behavior without these constant time-outs, you're going to end up permanently banned from the PS&P forum and relegated to OTD with the rest of the members who can't control themselves.

When you come back, how about you demonstrate that you can behave like an adult, eh? Either follow the rules or stay out of threads with controversial topics that make you lose control.

Keep this up and you are on your way to a permaban from PS&P. How this plays out is 100% up to you.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: SneezingPenis] * 1
    #19257655 - 12/10/13 09:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The person holding up the line at the convenience store scratching off lottery tickets and not moving, pants around his thighs and then buys 2 blount wraps with nickels and pennies and then hops in his 1998 maroon impala with new rims and shaking the windows with shitty bass from a shitty rap song... yeah, that is when people like me just shake their head and think "what a fuckin nigger".

I'm curious. If you see a white guy who is slurring his words at the convenience store dressed in pajamas with a scraggly beard, dirty "wife beater" shirt, and flip-flops buying a single bottle of beer and a pack of cigarettes with nickles and pennies who then hops into his 1998 rusty Celica with a broken radio and a cracked windshield and one of those tiny spare tires on the car, do you shake your head and think "fucking white trailer trash"?

BTW, I don't necessarily disagree with you though I'm not sure I entirely agree either. I also initially judge people I don't know based on what I see because that's all the information I have to work with. If some scary guy (or woman) is walking past my car I lock the doors, but their skin color has little to do with it. How much of a threat I perceive regardless of color is what drives my decision.


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: Diploid]
    #19257750 - 12/10/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think we can all agree that both those kinds of people deserve painful deaths by chickens. There are plenty of both where I live. Plenty of chickens too. Anyone else have a chicken fetish?


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: Diploid]
    #19258187 - 12/10/13 11:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

hey don't have the time to reply to all the posts, but if i helps, I would rather Markos be in this discussion. please do not ban him, I want to hear his input on this. Replies coming in about 9 hours.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19258211 - 12/10/13 11:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

My guess is he is now ignoring you. In any case, you can have his input when he gets back provided he follows the rules. Or if you like, I can move this to OTD and he can call you any name wants without consequences.


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: Diploid]
    #19258318 - 12/11/13 12:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I see WAY too much ego in here. Oh and half of the posters in these forums are smarter than the moderators. *can't wait for instaban cos moderators didn't like what I said* children.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: cheeshcat]
    #19258321 - 12/11/13 12:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Oh and totes didn't know racism wasn't a form of hate-speak? These forums are a safe haven for egomaniacs.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: cheeshcat]
    #19258358 - 12/11/13 12:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

can't wait for instaban cos moderators didn't like what I said

Do you have trouble with reading comprehension?

"Cos" moderators didn't like what you said or cos you broke the rules codified at 3rd grade reading level and broken by the banned member dozens of times after dozens of prior warnings and bans over months and years? Maybe you can tell me next about free speech or some such bullshit as if this is a country instead of a private web site.

Sometimes I actually enjoy it when a noob ignorant of an extensive back-story shows up here indignant that the owners would have the audacity to set and enforce rules as they see fit. But not today.


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: Diploid]
    #19258366 - 12/11/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

nah I don't have a problem with reading comprehension but thanks for the personal attack. I should ban you.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: cheeshcat]
    #19258373 - 12/11/13 12:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

What personal attack?


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: Diploid]
    #19258378 - 12/11/13 12:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Reading comprehension?


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: cheeshcat]
    #19258390 - 12/11/13 12:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That's just a simple question. So you can't point to any personal attack. That's what I thought.

This thread has been derailed enough. Let's get back on topic. If you have anything else off-topic, PM me. Don't post it here.


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: Diploid]
    #19258450 - 12/11/13 01:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

All I see is personal attack, personal attack & personal attack. Diploid no comprehendo


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: Diploid]
    #19258736 - 12/11/13 04:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Diploid said:
My guess is he is now ignoring you. In any case, you can have his input when he gets back provided he follows the rules. Or if you like, I can move this to OTD and he can call you any name wants without consequences.




Was it against the rules?  Sure seems like the OP didn't take it as a personalism or report it as such... For all we know , it seems like being called racist could have been synonymous to being called  "awesome" to the OP.  Is calling somebody awesome a personalism?  Seems like if the OP has no problem, then it could be personal vendetta of the moderator.... or the rules should state "no calling people racist", that would be a small amendment.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: cheeshcat]
    #19258801 - 12/11/13 05:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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cheeshcat said:
I see WAY too much ego in here. Oh and half of the posters in these forums are smarter than the moderators. *can't wait for instaban cos moderators didn't like what I said* children.





Follow the forum rules = no ban every time.  Is this difficult for you to understand?


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With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19258805 - 12/11/13 05:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

CosmicJoke said:
Quote:

Diploid said:
My guess is he is now ignoring you. In any case, you can have his input when he gets back provided he follows the rules. Or if you like, I can move this to OTD and he can call you any name wants without consequences.




Was it against the rules?  Sure seems like the OP didn't take it as a personalism or report it as such... For all we know , it seems like being called racist could have been synonymous to being called  "awesome" to the OP.  Is calling somebody awesome a personalism?  Seems like if the OP has no problem, then it could be personal vendetta of the moderator.... or the rules should state "no calling people racist", that would be a small amendment.





It's a personalism dude.  Read the forum rules and it will become clear what is allowed.  Really you should know this stuff. It applies to everyone.  I've been banned for them that's for sure. It has nothing to do with someone perceiving a slight or not.

And consider that maybe the bias is on your end in favor of certain posters. I don't hear you complaining about  all  other bans here.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: Icelander]
    #19258853 - 12/11/13 05:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Icelander said:
It's a personalism dude.  Read the forum rules and it will become clear what is allowed.  Really you should know this stuff. It applies to everyone.  I've been banned for them that's for sure. It has nothing to do with someone perceiving a slight or not.




I have read them, and there's all but one easily quotable paragraph:

"4) Avoid malicious personalisms. We're all human and nobody expects a completely sterile discussion, but please try to keep to the topic, and leave the folks you're talking to personally out of the discussion. A certain level of personal banter is in the grey area while getting to know your fellow posters over time, but keep it well-intentioned and keep it ON-TOPIC.  What constitutes malice is left up to the moderator's discretion; if you have any questions, complaints or suggestions please notify a moderator."

Here is a snippet of the post MtG responded to:

Quote:


I am considered racist by todays standards, but let me let you in on my thought process, because you are way off. I don't see a black person and think "goddamn nigger". doesn't happen that way. I see a persons demeanor,attitude,style/aesthetic choices and the way they speak and add that all up and THEN see that they are black and say "oh, thats the reason, they never learned how to not be a nigger".




What is the topic?  Did SneezingPenis not make himself and his thought processes the topic, and did he not self proclaim himself as a racist by today's standards?  Did MtG say anything other than he has nothing more to say to a racist?  The OP didn't seem to take it in offense or report it.  Clearly it's up to the moderator's discretion, and Diploid used his discretion.  That's all there is to it.


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19258878 - 12/11/13 06:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No he did not proclaim himself a racist, Marko's did.  Read what he said again. He said he was "considered" a racist by today's standards. He himself does not consider himself one.

How do you know who reported it or if he took offense btw? 

And as the mod pointed out Marko's has a history of personalisms and so his actions seem proper to me.

Just because someone starts a thread does not mean it's about them personally.



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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Edited by Icelander (12/11/13 06:30 AM)


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