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    #19256633 - 12/10/13 05:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I just watched the Senate vote via streaming and it was so exiting to hear the final applause after all the votes were counted, I'm so happy for them. Google Translate FTW.

http://www.elpais.com.uy/informacion/marihuana-ley-senado-uruguay-parlamento.html

Uruguay: world's first country to legalize marijuana production
With the votes of the Frente Amplio project that legalizes the sale and enables the self-cultivation of marijuana was approved in the Senate.

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The Senate approved the draft Marketplace legalization of marijuana , the initiative was on the second point of the agenda so it was treated after 10.30 hour .

It was a very long day and was attended by several international media closely followed the parliamentary debate.

The opposition senators questioned various aspects of the project.

Opposition and ruling
Colorado Senator Pedro Bordaberry said " you can not experiment with this , too many serious things ." . " Because I can not fight drug trafficking , which legalized I think that is not the way ," he argued and questioned the presentation made by the Broad Front of the project : "At the time (the presentation of the project) said that whoever would cultivate marijuana would be the Army. "

" He attracted the world media because this is different. Thing different can be good or bad," he said, referring to the impact of the subject. "We are news in the world ( ... ) The issue is not news, it is to be good news ," he added .

" How changed the world. That Frente Amplio government proposed a law Soros funded " . Asked what would happen to another government.

Then he said : " . Before he marched with Che on earth today leaves with Rockefeller and Soros by marijuana ," he added.

The legalization of marijuana will be used against Uruguay in the trial of Philip Morris, said Bordaberry .

For his part , Senator Ernesto Agazzi MPP said the law is helpful in reducing harm to consumers .

Agazzi said : " I do not know if the war on drugs has failed you , some have done well , some have gained a lot of money."

"I think this law is not a law legalizing it is a law that governs , not soft as they say here ," said the official representative.

"If the use is permitted by the user which criminalizes " asked Agazzi .

The government senator Héctor Lescano said in his speech that Uruguay does not require these issues to attract foreign attention.

"This is a great time of rights that ensure a more just and united country," Lescano said.

The senator pointed out that there are other laws that establish educational guidelines and therefore not violate the autonomy of the ANEP .

The Colorado Rep. Jose Amorin Batlle Conde quoted words which recognized that Article 10 is unconstitutional.

The government senator Oscar Lopez Goldaracena denied that the article creates a material for drug education is unconstitutional .

In another line , the opposition Ope Pasquet said : " I think it's the worst possible time to pass this bill , we would be talking about the PISA tests ."

Following the approval of the Legislature , subtract the promulgation of Executive to draft becomes law .


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Re: Uruguay: First country in the world to legalize the production of marijuana [Re: NicoCL] * 1
    #19256683 - 12/10/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/10/opinion/hetzer-uruguay-legalizes-marijuana/index.html

Finally, a nation legalizes pot
By Hannah Hetzer
updated 7:39 PM EST, Tue December 10, 2013
People rally for the legalization of marijuana in front of the Legislative Palace in Montevideo, Uruguay, on Monday.


Editor's note: Hannah Hetzer, who is based in Montevideo, Uruguay, is the policy manager of the Americas for the Drug Policy Alliance.

(CNN) -- Today, Uruguay became the first nation to make recreational marijuana legal for adults and to regulate its production, distribution and sale.

In the year and a half since President Jose Mujica announced the proposal in June 2012 as part of a comprehensive package aimed at fighting crime and public insecurity, a strong coalition of LGBT, women's rights, health, student, environmental and human rights organizations joined forces with trade unions, doctors, musicians, lawyers, athletes, writers, actors and academics under the banner of Regulacion Responsable (Responsible Regulation) to support the initiative and created a lively public campaign in favor of the proposal.
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People will have four ways to access marijuana: medical marijuana through the Ministry of Public Health, domestic cultivation of up to six plants, membership clubs similar to those found in Spain and licensed sale to adults in pharmacies. The bill was approved in the Chamber of Deputies in late July and passed in the Chamber of Senators today with 16 out of 29 votes.

Why marijuana, why now and why Uruguay? The following three simple reasons have a lot to do with today's outcome:

Because it's the smart thing to do.

Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is insanity, and Uruguay knows this. For 40 years, marijuana prohibition simply hasn't worked. Billions of dollars have been spent on repression, but marijuana use has only gone up -- along with the number of lives lost to failed policies.

The tens of thousands who have died in Mexico's drug war -- estimates in 2012 ranged from 60,000 to 70,000 over six years -- Central America's globally high homicide rates and the United States' racially driven mass incarceration are but a few examples of the human cost of the war on drugs. But rather than closing their eyes to the continuing problem of drug abuse and drug trafficking, Uruguay's leaders have chosen responsible regulation of an existing reality.

Because the winds are changing, and they're starting to blow in that direction.

In recent years, debate and political will for an overhaul in drug policy has gained unprecedented momentum throughout the U.S., Latin America and elsewhere.
This tiny country has a history of remarkable political reforms and a strong human rights ethos.
Hannah Hetzer

In 2011, Kofi Annan, Paul Volcker and Richard Branson joined former Presidents Fernando Henrique Cardoso of Brazil, Cesar Gaviria of Colombia and Ernesto Zedillo of Mexico and other distinguished members of the Global Commission on Drug Policy in saying the time had come to "break the taboo" on exploring alternatives to the failed war on drugs and to "encourage experimentation by governments with models of legal regulation of drugs," especially marijuana.

More recently, Presidents Juan Manuel Santos in Colombia and Otto Perez Molina in Guatemala have joined these calls for reform. In May, the Organization of American States produced a report, commissioned by heads of state of the region, that included marijuana legalization as a likely policy alternative for the coming years.

In November 2012, the states of Colorado and Washington approved the legal regulation of marijuana. In August, the White House announced that the federal government will not interfere with state marijuana laws -- as long as a number of stipulations are adhered to, such as preventing distribution to minors.

By approving this measure, Uruguay has taken the broad regional discussion on alternatives to drug prohibition one step further, representing a concrete advance in line with growing anti-drug war rhetoric in Latin America and throughout the world.

Because Uruguay is used to doing exceptional things.

You might hear "Uruguay" and think of football, yerba mate, beef, tango or, now, marijuana. But this tiny country of just over 3 million people has a history of remarkable political reforms and a strong human rights ethos.
Marihuana regida por el estado

Just last year, Uruguay legalized same-sex marriage and abortion. It has long been at the forefront of progressive policies, being one of the first nations in the region to grant divorce rights for women in 1912, instituting the eight-hour workday in 1915 and including women's right to vote in its Constitution in 1917. It has never criminalized prostitution and has legally regulated it since 2002. In 2009, Uruguay granted adoption rights for same-sex couples and the legal right to choose one's own gender identity.

This also comes from a country where the church and state have been officially separated since 1917.

It's a country where the president, 78-year-old former Tupamaro guerrilla Mujica, lives an austere lifestyle after having spent 14 years as a political prisoner during Uruguay's dictatorship, 10 of them in solitary confinement. He donates 90% of his salary to charity, shuns the presidential palace and chooses instead to remain on his farm with his wife, also a former political prisoner, working to construct a more fair, more inclusive Uruguay.

The consensus is there. Marijuana prohibition hasn't worked, and it's time to try an innovative, more compassionate and smarter approach. Let's hope more countries soon follow Uruguay's brave lead.

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Re: Uruguay: First country in the world to legalize the production of marijuana [Re: Simplepowa] * 1
    #19256786 - 12/10/13 06:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)



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Brian Cox - "[One] problem with today’s world is that everyone believes they have the right to express their opinion AND have others listen to it. The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense."


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Re: Uruguay: First country in the world to legalize the production of marijuana [Re: Simplepowa]
    #19257053 - 12/10/13 07:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It's about time. I wonder by how much this will influence other countries.


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Re: Uruguay: First country in the world to legalize the production of marijuana [Re: DrugsRGood]
    #19257436 - 12/10/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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It's about time. I wonder by how much this will influence other countries.




In South America? Maybe not so long.

In Asia? Hella long.


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Re: Uruguay: First country in the world to legalize the production of marijuana [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #19257444 - 12/10/13 08:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I wonder if this will impact the United States.  After all, the only reason Americans have even heard of Uruguay is to pronounce it as "your gay" in middle school.


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Re: Uruguay: First country in the world to legalize the production of marijuana [Re: NicoCL]
    #19257522 - 12/10/13 08:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

they FIXED the price at a dollar per gram. i don't think that's a good thing at all. its gonna be cheaper to import cannabis from uruguay than it is to grow it here soon man. think that's good for the economy here?  NOPE


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Re: Uruguay: First country in the world to legalize the production of marijuana [Re: 404] * 1
    #19258000 - 12/10/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Holy shit this is huge! So awesome! I'll spark one to this great news.
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Re: Uruguay: First country in the world to legalize the production of marijuana [Re: 404]
    #19258008 - 12/10/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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they FIXED the price at a dollar per gram. i don't think that's a good thing at all. its gonna be cheaper to import cannabis from uruguay than it is to grow it here soon man. think that's good for the economy here?  NOPE




You think people here actually want weed from Uruguay?

:loldongs:


For real though this is pretty cool. It's nice that they are allowing home cultivation unlike Washington State's "legalization"


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Re: Uruguay: First country in the world to legalize the production of marijuana [Re: 404]
    #19258026 - 12/10/13 10:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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they FIXED the price at a dollar per gram. i don't think that's a good thing at all. its gonna be cheaper to import cannabis from uruguay than it is to grow it here soon man. think that's good for the economy here?  NOPE



Do you not know where Uruguay is? The transportation costs alone would balance that out.


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Re: Uruguay: First country in the world to legalize the production of marijuana [Re: MrScruff]
    #19258064 - 12/10/13 10:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

you can grow great weed anywhere.

I really don't think the transportation costs would be that big of a deal.

look at it this way: if you were in uruguay... and your product only fetched a dollar per gram, but oh hey, over here in the US its 10-25 a gram! you'd be doing some exportation too.

one pound in a medical state goes for what, 1500 -2500 right? and in a non medical state maybe 3-4k right?

well, look at it this way... in uruguay its fixed (afaik) to one $ per gram... so $453.59

yeah, you're gonna make a lot doing export to the US if you are producing in uruguay. if you ship things in bulk, typically you can get better deals.


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Re: Uruguay: First country in the world to legalize the production of marijuana [Re: 404]
    #19258108 - 12/10/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I see your point. If other countries follow suit I don't see it becoming a problem, but for now it will be interesting to see if it pops up at 1/4 the current value.


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Re: Uruguay: First country in the world to legalize the production of marijuana [Re: MrScruff]
    #19258147 - 12/10/13 11:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well, Uruguay's prices will effect the immediate surrounding country's prices should they consider legalizing. We will just have to see how things play out - who knows perhaps it wont be that big of an impact on the economy


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Re: Uruguay: First country in the world to legalize the production of marijuana [Re: 404]
    #19258881 - 12/11/13 06:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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you can grow great weed anywhere.

I really don't think the transportation costs would be that big of a deal.

look at it this way: if you were in uruguay... and your product only fetched a dollar per gram, but oh hey, over here in the US its 10-25 a gram! you'd be doing some exportation too.

one pound in a medical state goes for what, 1500 -2500 right? and in a non medical state maybe 3-4k right?

well, look at it this way... in uruguay its fixed (afaik) to one $ per gram... so $453.59

yeah, you're gonna make a lot doing export to the US if you are producing in uruguay. if you ship things in bulk, typically you can get better deals.




you have to take exchange rates into account, 1 us dollar is equivelant to 21.5 uruguayan pesos, and the minimum wage in uruguay is equivelant to 1.7 us dollars.

minimum wage in the us is 7.25 dollars, an average g of pot in most western states is 10 per g, so an american could buy .725 g of pot per hour of minimum wage work, while an uruguayan could buy 1.7 g of pot per hour. thats 58% less expensive than american pot, take off 10-15% for travel costs, 10% for smugglers and associates, 10% for the first middle man and 10% for the second middle man, that only leaves ~ 13-18% profit leftover when finally reaching the third middle man. ( Think dozens of pounds-pounds-ounces) thats not that great of a profit margin, most U.S liquor stores are making 10-30% profit on most items.


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Re: Uruguay: First country in the world to legalize the production of marijuana [Re: deadhor5]
    #19259257 - 12/11/13 09:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Smart folks down in Uruguay. Told the UN to go fuck themselves. They're tourism industry will explode.


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Re: Uruguay: First country in the world to legalize the production of marijuana [Re: happygolucky]
    #19259887 - 12/11/13 12:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Has anyone even read the news? All the weed will be grown by the State. You have to be a registered Uruguay citizen (with a certificate of residence in the country) to buy it. There's no way any of that will ever reach US citizens


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Re: Uruguay: First country in the world to legalize the production of marijuana [Re: Yanomami]
    #19262082 - 12/11/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

LOL that is funny. what if the citezens decide to then sell it after?

granted, if it is being sold and made by a government i can't really see it being very good weed


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