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Re: Self-Development [Re: deCypher]
    #19304082 - 12/20/13 05:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

ive been listening to ram dass audio lectures on my mp3 every day at work :thumbup:


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Re: Self-Development [Re: Envix]
    #19305171 - 12/20/13 09:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Alan Watts is also great if you haven't checked him out.


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Re: Self-Development [Re: deCypher]
    #19306499 - 12/21/13 05:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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But there's something far more worthwhile than self-improvement out there.  It's called self-acceptance, and it's the key to lasting happiness.  Being able to accept who you are, with all of your shortcomings and negative personality traits, is infinitely preferable to trying (and failing) to change yourself into an impossible ideal of the ego-created concept that is perfection.




I disagree, self acceptance is part of self improvement, but it doesn't stop there, although it is the biggest step for some. Once you have accepted your self, you need yo identify not what you dislike about your self, but workout what you like about others and then logically considering why you couldn't have that too, and then if it seems you can logically have it, taking steps to achieve it.
I put that in a metaphorically view with physical possession, but it applies to nonphysical things, including state of mind too.


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Re: Self-Development [Re: Magenta]
    #19306631 - 12/21/13 06:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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But there's something far more worthwhile than self-improvement out there.  It's called self-acceptance, and it's the key to lasting happiness.  Being able to accept who you are, with all of your shortcomings and negative personality traits, is infinitely preferable to trying (and failing) to change yourself into an impossible ideal of the ego-created concept that is perfection.




I disagree, self acceptance is part of self improvement, but it doesn't stop there, although it is the biggest step for some. Once you have accepted your self, you need yo identify not what you dislike about your self, but workout what you like about others and then logically considering why you couldn't have that too, and then if it seems you can logically have it, taking steps to achieve it.
I put that in a metaphorically view with physical possession, but it applies to nonphysical things, including state of mind too.



this is how i understand the goal of life to be

recognition, acceptance, improve

you can't improve something until you accept the current conditions. you can't accept the current conditions until you recognize them


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Re: Self-Development [Re: Envix]
    #19307284 - 12/21/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I have to agree with accepting oneself before improving upon it, and before that, recognition. You need to realize that your current situation/ beliefs/ paradigms/ etc are an accumulation of all your past experiences. Who you are right now is a reflection of your past in a way. Once you recognize that you can accept who you are at the present moment and then decide to make improvements on yourself.

Victims of circumstance, past and present.


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Re: Self-Development [Re: x Ju x]
    #19308021 - 12/21/13 01:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

the train tracks of karma are leading the train which is my body to my own salvation which is enjoying the train ride



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Re: Self-Development [Re: x Ju x]
    #19308274 - 12/21/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

accept oneself
accept others
accept everything as is

everything starts with oneself, love and accept oneself
and if that is not possible, realize why that is so

if we cannot accept ourself we must be doing something wrong

unconditional acceptance, unconditional love :-)


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Re: Self-Development [Re: deCypher]
    #19310444 - 12/22/13 03:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Self-improvement is a poor goal for most of us.  We resolve every New Year's to lose that extra fifteen pounds by going to the gym every day, to quit drinking beer after we get home from work, etcetera etc... and a month later we're back to our same old habits and destructive routines.  Sure, improvements are possible to one's lifestyle and they can make you a little happier.

But there's something far more worthwhile than self-improvement out there.  It's called self-acceptance, and it's the key to lasting happiness.  Being able to accept who you are, with all of your shortcomings and negative personality traits, is infinitely preferable to trying (and failing) to change yourself into an impossible ideal of the ego-created concept that is perfection.




that is the equivalent of quitting at life.
or as Christopher Moore said in Island of the Sequined Love Nun: "Mud skipper thinking"


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Re: Self-Development [Re: broken] * 1
    #19310504 - 12/22/13 04:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

you mean winning at life


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Re: Self-Development [Re: Envix]
    #19333376 - 12/27/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So earlier today I was driving around by myself and looking off into the distance while some classic Grateful Dead tunes filled my ears and heart with warmth. I had the thought that self-development is mainly just like undoing the false development that we thought we were supposed to be doing all our lives. Untangling the web of deception and illusion which the world has suggested the way things should be, and coming back to terms with one's natural state of being.



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"Sheekle you cannot vile the dice of bullshit you have posted on this forum over the years, I like databases" - thelastoneleft
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Re: Self-Development [Re: Sheekle] * 1
    #19334422 - 12/27/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

but how do aspirations weave into self-development?

i think when one comes to accept the current circumstances, one becomes more inclined to act towards fulfilling such aspirations.

it would be more difficult to do so if you're caught up in the "what could be's" of life

cuz then ur spending all ur time thinking of what to do, instead of actually doin

:mindblown:


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Re: Self-Development [Re: Envix]
    #19334440 - 12/27/13 08:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Self-Development [Re: plektheplek]
    #19334495 - 12/27/13 08:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

think positive, glass is half full not half empty

everything is what you think it is

that seems to go hand in hand with acceptance


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Re: Self-Development [Re: Sheekle]
    #19334535 - 12/27/13 09:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Exercise , education, martial arts, lucid dreaming, meditation, psychedelic exploration, travel, romance and nature adventuration.


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Re: Self-Development [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19334540 - 12/27/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Exercise , education, martial arts, lucid dreaming, meditation, psychedelic exploration, travel, romance and nature adventuration.



:highfive:


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