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slapphappypill
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DMT extration about to start, advice please :-)
#19255776 - 12/10/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Good morning brothers and sisters!!! I'm looking to start my first extraction. I'm waiting for my 3 kilos of mhrb whole root bark in the mail right now. And am curious as to which tek to follow based off of YOUR experience.
I'm looking at these 2 teks: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10089233/fpart/1/vc/1 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=1&Number=11814427&PHPSESSID=&fpart=1#11814427
I'm curious as to actual complexity for a first time extractor. I've never done this before, so i'm curious as to which you'd recommend, and how difficult it really is.
Thanks in advance! Love and light <3
-------------------- We think we have freedom, but we're all just mice in a maze.... FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly! I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably! ~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~ ~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~ ~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~
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Re: DMT extration about to start, advice please :-) [Re: slapphappypill]
#19256291 - 12/10/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I only have experience with the first link, and it worked great for me. Nearly 2g of spice from 100g of mhrb.
And its so easy it doesn't even feel like work.
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Re: DMT extration about to start, advice please :-) [Re: TopPmz]
#19256445 - 12/10/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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did you do the Bestine cleaning tek afterwords? or does it make much difference in terms of quality? I've heard arguments for both I guess, but I'm trying to get some updated answers.
Thanks for the reply bro! Much appreciated!
-------------------- We think we have freedom, but we're all just mice in a maze.... FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly! I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably! ~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~ ~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~ ~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~
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Re: DMT extration about to start, advice please :-) [Re: slapphappypill]
#19256466 - 12/10/13 05:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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No, freeze precipitate and evap were my last steps. My first 2 pulls were pure white if that says anything for you. I've never blasted off completely, but I blame that on myself, not the product. Everyone that's tried it has loved it. No problem, my friend.
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Re: DMT extration about to start, advice please :-) [Re: TopPmz]
#19256573 - 12/10/13 05:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Did you do multiple extractions? Or do you mean you've done/pulled twice and gotten great results both times?
-------------------- We think we have freedom, but we're all just mice in a maze.... FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly! I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably! ~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~ ~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~ ~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~
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Re: DMT extration about to start, advice please :-) [Re: slapphappypill]
#19256614 - 12/10/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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One extraction, a total of 4 pulls actually. Only the first two were pure white though.
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Re: DMT extration about to start, advice please :-) [Re: TopPmz]
#19256686 - 12/10/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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So is that something you'd want to combine or keep seperate?
-------------------- We think we have freedom, but we're all just mice in a maze.... FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly! I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably! ~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~ ~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~ ~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~
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Re: DMT extration about to start, advice please :-) [Re: slapphappypill]
#19256725 - 12/10/13 06:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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And the 2 g is total yield or just the white?
-------------------- We think we have freedom, but we're all just mice in a maze.... FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly! I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably! ~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~ ~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~ ~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~
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Re: DMT extration about to start, advice please :-) [Re: slapphappypill]
#19256744 - 12/10/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you're worried about purity, then keep it separate. There's nothing wrong with putting it together though, as long as you understand that you're mixing a purer product with a less pure product. 2g was total yield, but that's 2%, which is pretty damn high. The white was about half of that, or 1g.
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Re: DMT extration about to start, advice please :-) [Re: slapphappypill]
#19256780 - 12/10/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Straight to base with freeze precip will get you white substance with a bit of oilyness to it from all the fats that dissolve in the basic solution. Acid-base will get you crystals like in my signature but it's a little more difficult because you have to find a way to filter the muddy bark solution after the initial acid step. With STB you just leave the bark in the mixture and take off the top layer of naptha (bottom layer is base and bark). Straight to base plus a recrystallization from hexane or naptha will get you crystals like in my sig but maybe a tad more yellow. You won't care about the yellow when you smoke it. The best way to get crystals is to boil naptha or hexane or whatever and add it to the freeze precipitated DMT (or just what is left after evaporating everything), don't add anymore than what it takes to dissolve it. You'll notice stuff sinking to the bottom undissolved that is the water with trace base and fats dissolved. Pour off the clean top layer and put it in a container somewhere undisturbed where it can cool and evaporate very slowly. Being slow is key to good crystals. A freezer cools solutions too quickly and crystals don't form as nice. Of course, boiling extremely flammable solvent and then letting it slowly evaporate somewhere probably won't be doable for you. But I'm just telling you what I know.
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Re: DMT extration about to start, advice please :-) [Re: jellyfish]
#19258050 - 12/10/13 10:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is the tek I used http://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Q21Q21%27s_Vinegar/Lime_A/B_Extraction_Tek Tek 2
Its very straight forward, and uses pickling lime instead of lye, which has the potential to cause some nasty burns.
My advice is whichever tek you decide on read read read and read until you can do your tek in your sleep. Try to understand the basic chemistry that's taking place and its easier to follow the process. And follow the tek to the letter your first time. Don't try and just wing it.
Also random question OP, are you in the states by any chance?
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Re: DMT extration about to start, advice please :-) [Re: Kief Ledger]
#19258997 - 12/11/13 07:30 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm no chemist, and I find it pretty easy and straightforward.
I would recommend you go in small batches, especially at first, to get your technique and equipment really nailed down without the risk of screwing up a big batch.
I found that I could get pretty high yield with more pulls and more aggressive heating and soaks, but at a cost of more yellow/jungle in there. With that much bark, I would recommend you separate your pulls so you can have a batch of snow white pure stuff, and another batch of not quite as white stuff, and then a batch of funky yellow waxy stuff. Then you can compare the effects of each. You may find that the purest is all you are interested in... but others have said they really like the effects of a "dirtier" extraction.
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Re: DMT extration about to start, advice please :-) [Re: gornyhuy]
#19259172 - 12/11/13 08:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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get some xylene for the final pull to get dat jungle spice.
that stuff is pretty wacky. felt like I was on ayahuasca or something.
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