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More Hawaiin mushrooms for identification
    #19255176 - 12/10/13 12:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hello,
I have 3 types to identify this time:

Type 1)
These mushrooms grow in the woods, in the transition zone between short and tall grasses on the Big Island of Hawaii, Kau district.  They grow from the soil.  They have gills which are burgundy.  The caps have a hint of burgundy.  Ants seem to like eating these.  Caps are up to 4.5 inches in diameter.  Stems are very firm and there is not much smell to them.  There does not seem to be bruising on the stem or cap or gills.  The cap is very slightly shaggy all over but it's hard for the camera to pick this up.



This next type is growing under a papaya tree in the shade on a grassy lawn.  I haven't picked any to check the gills but I can if necessary for Identification.


The third type is very commonly found growing from disturbed soil and mulch (wood chips and yard greens).  They are very fragile and have a grey color with brown at the peak of the cap.



Thanks for looking!!


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Re: More Hawaiin mushrooms for identification [Re: invitro]
    #19255222 - 12/10/13 12:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Edit: Dont mind me. I was wrong on all accounts.


Edited by wildernessjunkie (12/10/13 12:53 PM)


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Re: More Hawaiin mushrooms for identification [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #19255239 - 12/10/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Also, I've eaten the last before without any side effects.  The last one does not bruise. 

Thanks!


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Re: More Hawaiin mushrooms for identification [Re: invitro]
    #19255254 - 12/10/13 12:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Also, I've eaten the last before without any side effects.



Why have you done that?
#1 is an Agaricus species, #2 Chlorophyllum, most likely Chlorophyllum molybdites, and the 3rd one is a Parasola species.


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Re: More Hawaiin mushrooms for identification [Re: Tangich]
    #19255260 - 12/10/13 12:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well I tried.

Still got a lot to learn...


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Re: More Hawaiin mushrooms for identification [Re: Tangich]
    #19255265 - 12/10/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

An experienced friend told me they (mushroom number 3) were ok to eat.  Thanks for the input! 

I'm very new at mushroom identification.  If a mushroom is of the agaricus species does that mean it's edible? 


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Re: More Hawaiin mushrooms for identification [Re: invitro]
    #19255280 - 12/10/13 12:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)


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If a mushroom is of the agaricus species does that mean it's edible? 



Quite possibly. But a couple Agaricus species are toxic. I'm not at all familiar with your locale and what species grow there, so please wait for someone to point you in the right direction.



In what way 'ok to eat'? Were you hoping to get high off of them? They are far too insubstantial and tasteless to use them for culinary purposes.


Edited by Tangich (12/10/13 12:51 PM)


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Re: More Hawaiin mushrooms for identification [Re: Tangich]
    #19255310 - 12/10/13 12:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I want them for culinary uses.  If they were actives that would be good to know but I doubt they are because they are huge and meaty.  Are there actives that get large like this?  I haven't heard of any.

Oh you were talking about #3 not #1, well I can gather #3 in large amounts on a good mulch pile...

How did you know #1 was agaricus?  Is there a website that has a complete list of agaricus species with pictures?

thanks again!!


Edited by invitro (12/10/13 12:59 PM)


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Re: More Hawaiin mushrooms for identification [Re: invitro]
    #19255319 - 12/10/13 12:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No sorry, I meant that for the 3rd ones, which you said you already ate.
Agaricus is only edible, not psychoactive.


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Re: More Hawaiin mushrooms for identification [Re: Tangich]
    #19255501 - 12/10/13 01:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Agaricus bitorquis is my guess after looking at all the agaricus pics on wikipedia.  It does push itself up from the soil, commonly having some dirt on the cap (I washed them off for the pic).


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Re: More Hawaiin mushrooms for identification [Re: Tangich]
    #19255676 - 12/10/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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and the 3rd one is a Parasola species.




I'd guess its in Coprinellus sect. Setulosi, but you could be right about Parasola.  Its sometimes hard to tell without looking at the pileipellis.


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Re: More Hawaiin mushrooms for identification [Re: Byrain]
    #19255768 - 12/10/13 02:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I picked the #2 mushroom for better identification, the gills are off-white, the flesh inside is white, there is no bruising, the cap is dry, there is a strong pleasant mushroom smell to it.


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Re: More Hawaiin mushrooms for identification [Re: invitro]
    #19255782 - 12/10/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Do a spore print.


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Re: More Hawaiin mushrooms for identification [Re: Byrain]
    #19255799 - 12/10/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

in the last pic it looks like there is a little amanita muscaria poking up next to the other mushroom


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Re: More Hawaiin mushrooms for identification [Re: Byrain]
    #19255802 - 12/10/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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and the 3rd one is a Parasola species.




I'd guess its in Coprinellus sect. Setulosi, but you could be right about Parasola.  Its sometimes hard to tell without looking at the pileipellis.



Damn, and I was really happy that I could at least tell this one apart with some confidence! :lol: I'm definitely just putting 'Psathyrellaceae' next time! :sad: :lol:


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Re: More Hawaiin mushrooms for identification [Re: Tangich]
    #19256379 - 12/10/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

There might be some hints that make it easier than I make it sound, but I'm not really sure what.


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Re: More Hawaiin mushrooms for identification [Re: Byrain]
    #19257702 - 12/10/13 09:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i heard that Hawaii has a lot of endemic species, a local identifier might be the best bet


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Re: More Hawaiin mushrooms for identification [Re: PNW UW]
    #19265168 - 12/12/13 10:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I finally got a spore print for mushroom type #2 and the spores are white and the gills are free.

Thanks for your help guys!!  More are popping up all the time :smile:


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Re: More Hawaiin mushrooms for identification [Re: invitro]
    #19265181 - 12/12/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

#2 is probably chlorophyllum brunneum then


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