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PsychedelicGinge
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Psilocybe Tampanensis Hunt Pointless?
#19252630 - 12/09/13 09:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey everyone, my hometown is Tampa and my parents still live there. If I were to go into the swampy woods they have all over the place would there be any chance of me finding psilocybe tampanensis? I'm aware that it is hella rare in the wild and it was only discovered once close to Tampa but I'm wondering if that could mean it just wasn't looked for by mycologists after. I just think it would be cool to find a mushroom named after the city I grew up in.
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Alan Rockefeller
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You should look for it.
It was found more than once, turned up in Mississippi also.
Might be conspecific with Psilocybe atlantis or P. mexicana. If you find it please dry it and message me and I will make sure it gets studied well both microscopically and with DNA sequences, and saved forever.
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Joust
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Alan Rockefeller said: forever.
-------------------- ~~~~~~***Psilocybin Mushrooms***~~~~~~ _________A Practical Guide To Psilocybin Mushrooms_________ "Think about the species, not your scale". -NeoSporen "Mr. Joust, I see you don't actually partake in the psilocin, but it looks like it may partake in you!" -Gojira
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis Hunt Pointless? [Re: Joust]
#19253714 - 12/10/13 02:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok not forever, but for at least as long as humans continue to roam the earth.
After the humans are gone the trees will start to grow inside the herbarium and rain will ruin the mushrooms.
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Joust
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Alan Rockefeller said: Ok not forever, but for at least as long as humans continue to roam the earth.
After the humans are gone the trees will start to grow inside the herbarium and rain will ruin the mushrooms.
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Alan Rockefeller said: Ok not forever, but for at least as long as humans continue to roam the earth.
After the humans are gone the trees will start to grow inside the herbarium and rain will ruin the mushrooms.
pretty much forever, dont mind me, i just think im funny.
-------------------- ~~~~~~***Psilocybin Mushrooms***~~~~~~ _________A Practical Guide To Psilocybin Mushrooms_________ "Think about the species, not your scale". -NeoSporen "Mr. Joust, I see you don't actually partake in the psilocin, but it looks like it may partake in you!" -Gojira
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kcrocker802
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis Hunt Pointless? [Re: Joust]
#19253790 - 12/10/13 02:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Are there not cultivated specimens to study?
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis Hunt Pointless? [Re: Joust]
#19254249 - 12/10/13 07:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Joust said: pretty much forever
Nah, I don't think humans got that long left. We're overpopulating more and more every day and we're fugging stuff up pretty bad.
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis Hunt Pointless? [Re: Ran-D]
#19254287 - 12/10/13 08:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ran-D said:
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Joust said: pretty much forever
Nah, I don't think humans got that long left. We're overpopulating more and more every day and we're fugging stuff up pretty bad.
I suspect humans can outlive planet earth, Star Trek style, reliant on increasingly complex technological systems, only protecting whichever elements of life on planet earth we would need to export to our new homes across the galaxy until they find viable alternatives to eating and breathing.
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis Hunt Pointless? [Re: Joie]
#19254439 - 12/10/13 09:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'd pick apocalypse over that any day. Give me nature or give me death.
Edited by Ran-D (12/10/13 09:13 AM)
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Joust
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis Hunt Pointless? [Re: Ran-D]
#19254946 - 12/10/13 11:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ran-D said: I'd pick apocalypse over that any day. Give me nature or give me death.
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis Hunt Pointless? [Re: Ran-D]
#19254995 - 12/10/13 11:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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kcrocker802 said: Are there not cultivated specimens to study?
I don't have any recent ones. I saw some that Steven Pollack cultivated in the 70's in San Antonio, however they are probably too old to get useful DNA out of.
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Ran-D said: Nah, I don't think humans got that long left. We're overpopulating more and more every day and we're fugging stuff up pretty bad.
People have been saying it's just about the end of civilization for as long as there has been civilization. If history continues to repeat itself, the doomsayers will continue to be wrong.
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Joust
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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kcrocker802 said: Are there not cultivated specimens to study?
I don't have any recent ones. I saw some that Steven Pollack cultivated in the 70's in San Antonio, however they are probably too old to get useful DNA out of.
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Ran-D said: Nah, I don't think humans got that long left. We're overpopulating more and more every day and we're fugging stuff up pretty bad.
People have been saying it's just about the end of civilization for as long as there has been civilization. If history continues to repeat itself, the doomsayers will continue to be wrong.
Id imagine Workman had some, or Cpt. future...
I feel like many people are growing these.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis Hunt Pointless? [Re: Joust]
#19255066 - 12/10/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes, it is common to grow them. But how do people know what they are growing? They are pretty hard to separate from P. mexicana or P. atlantis, even with a microscope and access to the type collections.
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Cultivated ones are not. When people grow 'P. tampanensis', they are growing what was then identified as P. tampanensis. If it's the real P. tampanensis or not is another thing, but they are all descended from that one collection. I have grown P. tampanensis, P. galindoi and P. mexicana, and macroscopically they look nothing alike.
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis Hunt Pointless? [Re: Tangich]
#19255098 - 12/10/13 12:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I believe that P. galindoi is P. mexicana, as it was described from Jalisco and that state is covered in P. mexicana. I have visited the type location and it looks like a regular mexicana field.
If you have pics of your grows I would like to compare them, especially if you have dried material that could be studied.
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Unfortunately it's been about 3 years since I last grew anything. I wasn't very fond of taking pictures of illegal grows, so there are just a couple poor P. galindoi photos. No dried material either.

P. tampanensis looks relatively similar to these, it's entirely possible it's a different collection of the same species. But P. mexicana is differen, almost translucent, smooth, brown-beige colored stipes, light brown striated caps, wider gills, different smell, different looking primordia... Two different 'strains', one wild, one domesticated. They were very similar to one another, but obviously different from galindoi and tampanensis.
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis Hunt Pointless? [Re: Tangich]
#19255234 - 12/10/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tangich said: Unfortunately it's been about 3 years since I last grew anything. I wasn't very fond of taking pictures of illegal grows, so there are just a couple poor P. galindoi photos. No dried material either.

P. tampanensis looks relatively similar to these, it's entirely possible it's a different collection of the same species. But P. mexicana is differen, almost translucent, smooth, brown-beige colored stipes, light brown striated caps, wider gills, different smell, different looking primordia... Two different 'strains', one wild, one domesticated. They were very similar to one another, but obviously different from galindoi and tampanensis.
those are sexy!
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Alan Rockefeller said: If you have pics of your grows I would like to compare them, especially if you have dried material that could be studied.
Stonesun has some awesome pictures of each species in his gallery.
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PsychedelicGinge
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Alan Rockefeller said: You should look for it.
It was found more than once, turned up in Mississippi also.
Might be conspecific with Psilocybe atlantis or P. mexicana. If you find it please dry it and message me and I will make sure it gets studied well both microscopically and with DNA sequences, and saved forever.
I shall try my best. If I don't find them hopefully I can find some other cool mushrooms, psychedelic or not.
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Joust
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PsychedelicGinge said:
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Alan Rockefeller said: You should look for it.
It was found more than once, turned up in Mississippi also.
Might be conspecific with Psilocybe atlantis or P. mexicana. If you find it please dry it and message me and I will make sure it gets studied well both microscopically and with DNA sequences, and saved forever.
I shall try my best. If I don't find them hopefully I can find some other cool mushrooms, psychedelic or not.
-------------------- ~~~~~~***Psilocybin Mushrooms***~~~~~~ _________A Practical Guide To Psilocybin Mushrooms_________ "Think about the species, not your scale". -NeoSporen "Mr. Joust, I see you don't actually partake in the psilocin, but it looks like it may partake in you!" -Gojira
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