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Offlineiagainsti
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Likleihood of cacti on a probation hair test
    #19252397 - 12/09/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

hello all,

I have done some reading here and at other sources and am just curious about the chances of a hair test on probation (I know it is all up to the PO, but I'm inquiring about the likelihood. I have recently been put on probation for an alcohol related dwi (that was dumb, won't happen again). It happened this past summer at after a wedding party in a different county and I'm finally over with it with the exception of probation for 1 year.

I live in a large city and the POs in this county won't even take transfer cases for a first misdemeanor offense so I have a an officer in the county that it happened in (about an hour away). I am lucky in that I only have to meet with the guy once every three months ( 4 times total with the option of finishing early in the Fall). I had a meeting today and wasn't given the usual test (would have been clean on all counts for a dip stick anyway.)

I am not even concerned about UA's because I quit smoking and I don't really do anything besides the occasional cactus. I am aware of the potential for false positives for amphetamines, but the detection time is something that can be worked around for a UA. I really don't see how it is possible for a random test while I live an hour away anyway.

I have since decided to plant my cacti to promote growth and I'm thinking I will abstain regardless. That being said, is it likely that a hair test would be done at a meeting due to the few times I will be following up? I realize that UAs are more common but I am just curious if any of you have had similar instances regarding probation and testing. I figure UAs will be most common even if I am tested but if down the road I did decide to do cacti, are my odds good that a hair test will be rare?

Like I said, I will probably opt against brewing it up anytime in the near future but I am slightly curious. Thoughts?


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Re: Likleihood of cacti on a probation hair test [Re: iagainsti] * 1
    #19252577 - 12/09/13 09:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

your chances of being busted are zero unless you tell him you're eating mescaline and then they will test for it.


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Re: Likleihood of cacti on a probation hair test [Re: NWlight]
    #19252589 - 12/09/13 09:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

They don't test for psychedelics and even if they did, psychedelics move up and down the hair follicle and it can't be proven that you didn't take them years ago or yesterday, assuming your hair is long.


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Re: Likleihood of cacti on a probation hair test [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19252595 - 12/09/13 09:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You could spray cacti on youre hair n pass youre good mann


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Re: Likleihood of cacti on a probation hair test [Re: Polk_Audio3]
    #19252599 - 12/09/13 09:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Likleihood of cacti on a probation hair test [Re: NWlight]
    #19252621 - 12/09/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I believe they only test for the big 5. Cocaine,THC,Barbs,Amp,and opiates...i think anything is costly to the County bro. Thank bout it. would you spend money on that lol

Now keep in mind if you got caught with say mushies. they might test you for mushies from the time of probation.

good luck bruv

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Re: Likleihood of cacti on a probation hair test [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19256413 - 12/10/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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GreyMorph said:
They don't test for psychedelics and even if they did, psychedelics move up and down the hair follicle and it can't be proven that you didn't take them years ago or yesterday, assuming your hair is long.




Thanks everyone. I am curious about this ^

Any specific source on the topic I could read? I am curious as to why this is. my hair is probably 4 inches long and I get at most 2 cuts a year.


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Re: Likleihood of cacti on a probation hair test [Re: iagainsti]
    #19256422 - 12/10/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I got away with psychs multiple times on probation alls good in the hood man trip away


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Re: Likleihood of cacti on a probation hair test [Re: iagainsti]
    #19256882 - 12/10/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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iagainsti said:
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GreyMorph said:
They don't test for psychedelics and even if they did, psychedelics move up and down the hair follicle and it can't be proven that you didn't take them years ago or yesterday, assuming your hair is long.




Thanks everyone. I am curious about this ^

Any specific source on the topic I could read? I am curious as to why this is. my hair is probably 4 inches long and I get at most 2 cuts a year.





I believe I found that information on erowid. Try there, check out the drug tests section and see if its there..


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Re: Likleihood of cacti on a probation hair test [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19262325 - 12/11/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Fair enough. I checked around and could not find specifics on that in particular, but I guess I'm not that concerned. The way I see it, the only way I would even get a GC/MS test would be if I failed a UA dip stick test. I read the statues regarding probation testing in my state and it seems as though a preliminary positive on a "point-of-collection" screen test (dip-stick) will be sent out to the lab. To my knowledge a GC/MS is still going to be screened for SAMHSA/NIDA standards. SO a false positive would not show up on a confirmation test anyway.

Bottom line is if one were to give no hints at exotic drug use there would be no reason to test for it (as NWlight said) in a GC/MS setting regardless of the testing medium.

Simple solution would be to not trip but the more information I read, the better I feel about it. It isn't like one would gettin down with cacti every weekend anyway. Plus I have a HUGE window of time. 

We can put this business to rest, but out of curiosity and regarding my previous assumption about a confirmation test:

Does the lab generally just test to confirm positives or do they test for everything on the panel?  Erowid suggests that a mesc. test would be out of the picture so I am under the impression that the lab would have no reason to look in the first place.

"slowly removes tin foil hat"

Again thanks to you all for the input. Also if anyone else has info. on psychs moving up and down the hair please share. I find that to be a very interesting trait if true.



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