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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: twistedty]
    #19298088 - 12/19/13 01:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

After letting it consolidate for a week, Ive taken it out to initiate pinning. Its the 5th day that its been out and I havent seen any signs of mushrooms through the glass. I was wondering if it has anything to do with the temperature. The temperature of the house is kind of low and I was wondering if that may be the problem or I just havent waited long enough?


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: bolbol]
    #19298154 - 12/19/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What is your temp?  No higher than 80 and anywhere in the mid to highn70's is good.
I'd say just wait it out, if it's not in trouble, just leave it.


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: 1down5up]
    #19298221 - 12/19/13 02:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

its around 65...


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: bolbol]
    #19298752 - 12/19/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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bolbol said:
its around 65...



That's fine....sometimes this just takes time.....


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: PussyFart]
    #19302929 - 12/20/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

also I have a question..
If i place a fully colonized jar in the incubator set at 80 F which I use for jar colonization, will it start pinning? or having lights and lower temp is a must?


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: bolbol]
    #19303149 - 12/20/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

it may start pining but it's not an issue


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: bolbol]
    #19303277 - 12/20/13 02:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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also I have a question..
If i place a fully colonized jar in the incubator set at 80 F which I use for jar colonization, will it start pinning? or having lights and lower temp is a must?



Jars/bags/tubs/trays should colonize @ room temperature getting ambient/indirect light.

Main pinning triggers are full colonization, FAE and Evaporation off of the substrate.

Light is a secondary pinning trigger. For tropical species temperature is not a pinning factor.

P. Cubensis are a tropical species. You could colonize at 70F and fruit at 80F with great results.

Light has been proven beneficial during all stages of mycellium growth. Mushrooms like mammals have a circadian rhythm.

You want ambient/indirect light(on a 12/12 schedule preferably) for colonization and consolidation.

You want direct/intense 6500K light on a 12/12 schedule for fruiting.

Optimal temps are mid 70s throughout the whole grow, but anywhere from 65F-80F is acceptable.

Incubation is outdated/uneeded unless temps in the range stated above cannot be kept.

The inside of the jar is always a few degrees warmer than the outside because the mycellium produces heat..mycellium tends to stall at temps above 86F , and contams thrive.

Fruiting at cooler temps tends to produce denser, meatier fruits, while fruiting at higher temps will often produce hollow, less dense stems.


Mycelium should be exposed to ambient room light from day of inoculation as has been known for many years.  Light is not a pinning trigger until after full colonization and an increase in air is given, and even then it's a secondary pinning trigger.
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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: PussyFart]
    #19303312 - 12/20/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I swear NAH, I see you reference this every day :lol:

I have to say kudos for being able to implement this to many a different instances.


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: PussyFart]
    #19303435 - 12/20/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks a lot for the tips!
I will just put them all under light from the pm to am and have them in the incubator from am to pm and see how that goes


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: bolbol]
    #19314343 - 12/23/13 12:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

For the other jars I have ready I want to dunk them and also try the freeze over night technique. Should I freeze it first then dunk the next day?


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: bolbol]
    #19314357 - 12/23/13 12:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Cold shocking is not beneficial to tropical species.


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: bolbol]
    #19314363 - 12/23/13 12:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Absolutely not. Scrape the dry verm layer in the trash. Birth. Rinse. Dunk for 12-24 hrs. Roll in dry verm. Place in FC (with cakes should be an SGFC I believe.)

EDIT: My apologies.
Mist till verm is saturated. Fan. Evaporation is major pinning trigger. Mist when verm looks dry. Fan after. Do this till harvest. Let dry for few days. Dunk. Repeat.

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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: magickspore]
    #19314375 - 12/23/13 01:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

No after the flush you let it dry a bit then dunk


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: cronicr]
    #19314393 - 12/23/13 01:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

the ones I currently have havent been rolled in dry verm. Is that okay or does it make a lot of difference? How long should I fan them for?


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    #19328888 - 12/26/13 01:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: bolbol]
    #19364205 - 01/03/14 04:30 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

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