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Re: Just say NO to LC and YES to PDYA [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19252224 - 12/09/13 07:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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GLC's are outdated if you really don't want to do agar but expand your MS why not do a G2G? at least this way you can open up your fully colonized jar and smell it. and then make that one jar into 14... that would be 2 tubs and be more than enough for anyone looking for just a head stash in the neighborhood of around 8-16 oz.
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Re: Just say NO to LC and YES to PDYA [Re: blueconfusion]
#19252269 - 12/09/13 08:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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blueconfusion said: GLC's are outdated if you really don't want to do agar but expand your MS why not do a G2G? at least this way you can open up your fully colonized jar and smell it. and then make that one jar into 14... that would be 2 tubs and be more than enough for anyone looking for just a head stash in the neighborhood of around 8-16 oz.
GLC can speed this up, if you shoot lets say 10cc's per jar, jars will be ready prbly in a week after inoculation, also if you are planing to do brf cakes you cant g2g
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Re: Just say NO to LC and YES to PDYA [Re: loki44]
#19252311 - 12/09/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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but you can still do agar. That's what I do to test cultures.
A contaminated GLC will stop yu in your tracks, ruin a bunch of work and materials, waste your time, and is more likely to happen the longer you keep the GLC
And, like was already said, a grain jar can be seriously contaminated and you won't know it till it's too late.
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Pastywhyte said: I would take an LC inoculated with a clean agar wedge over a GLC any day 
 I honestly can't think of a single reason to ever do GLC again.
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Re: Just say NO to LC and YES to PDYA [Re: loki44]
#19252317 - 12/09/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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my g2g are done in a week tops no you can't g2g brf but you can use a clean agar wedge shoot some water onto the clean mycelium and use a clean needle to make a clean syringe same as your GLC but i can at least sleep at night knowing its clean or i can use that clean agar wedge to make an LC that i know is clean
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Re: Just say NO to LC and YES to PDYA [Re: blueconfusion]
#19252343 - 12/09/13 08:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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found a pic of loki
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Re: Just say NO to LC and YES to PDYA [Re: blueconfusion]
#19252380 - 12/09/13 08:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just put the agar wedge right on top of the cake when I do tests
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Edited by SpitballJedi (12/09/13 08:30 PM)
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Re: Just say NO to LC and YES to PDYA [Re: blueconfusion]
#19252404 - 12/09/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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blueconfusion said:
found a pic of loki 
LOL why you people can't understand that someone may want to keep it simple and effective, you are gonna tell me that buying a ton of extra supplies, investing time in learning new skills, occupying extra space, in other words more shit to accomplish the same goal is the best way, are you kidding me?
if all you you need 14/21 jars for 2 or 3 tubs max, you really dont need , an unlimited supply of petri dishes,parafilm, inoc loop, agar and all the other shit, extra refrigeration space etc etc etc, come on guy have some common sense here
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Re: Just say NO to LC and YES to PDYA [Re: loki44]
#19252419 - 12/09/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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loki44 said: holy shit dude all that trouble, when you just need to add some water to a fully colonized grain jar, shake and extract the juice enough to inoculate 100's of jars, GLC ftw
simple and fool proof
terrible idea, agar is just as easy.
hes just talkin about advanced techniques for agar for wilds
GLC is worse than LC lol
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Re: Just say NO to LC and YES to PDYA [Re: loki44]
#19252425 - 12/09/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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loki44 said: LOL why you people can't understand that someone may want to keep it simple and effective, you are gonna tell me that buying a ton of extra supplies, investing time in learning new skills, occupying extra space, in other words more shit to accomplish the same goal is the best way, are you kidding me?
Yeah I forgot, most people are here for drugs Wouldn't want to learn anything or do something with skill. Agar is not hard and can be done for very cheap with supplies bought from the grocery store. Why not spend $20 bucks extra to avoid wasting everything
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Re: Just say NO to LC and YES to PDYA [Re: loki44]
#19252427 - 12/09/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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If all you need is 14 to 21 jars you don't need to do an LC
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Re: Just say NO to LC and YES to PDYA [Re: blueconfusion]
#19252447 - 12/09/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You don't have to use petri dishes you can use 1/4 pint jelly jars or ziploc tupperware dishes you don't need parafilm you can use saran wrap agar is cheap there are a lot of agar recipes out there
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Re: Just say NO to LC and YES to PDYA [Re: blueconfusion]
#19252454 - 12/09/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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im glad someone else is with me like hacker, frank, blue, and pasty to start the agar movement. i did my first batch of agar for 5 bux out of dog food from my neighbor and some agar agar from the health store and some no pour jars.
fell in love.
bought big ass roll of parafilm, a case of 500 dishes and 1000 grams of pda.
my success rate right now since i started proper pastuerization and agar and my slants on isolates is at least 90% probably way higher but ill be modest for now.
and LCs cant do this

my isolate library which can be stored for years if i decide to take a break
its a no brainer i dont understand why people would even try to argue.
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Re: Just say NO to LC and YES to PDYA [Re: blueconfusion]
#19252456 - 12/09/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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blueconfusion said: You don't have to use petri dishes you can use 1/4 pint jelly jars or ziploc tupperware dishes you don't need parafilm you can use saran wrap agar is cheap there are a lot of agar recipes out there
yes very very true. but i have money and when i do something i go all out bro
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Re: Just say NO to LC and YES to PDYA [Re: SpitballJedi]
#19252457 - 12/09/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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 I honestly can't think of a single reason to ever do GLC again.
duh, for whatever reason you decided to invest all the resources necessary to do agar work, why would you do LC's now? the point is for some small scale growers AGAR is NOT necessary to successfully grow
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Re: Just say NO to LC and YES to PDYA [Re: blueconfusion]
#19252465 - 12/09/13 08:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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And loki the new skill you talk of is as easy as making jello so can you boil water?
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Re: Just say NO to LC and YES to PDYA [Re: twistedty]
#19252472 - 12/09/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nice slants, I just got the plastic ones and vacutainers. But we got the same rack
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Re: Just say NO to LC and YES to PDYA [Re: loki44]
#19252477 - 12/09/13 08:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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loki44 said:
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SpitballJedi said:
 I honestly can't think of a single reason to ever do GLC again.
duh, for whatever reason you decided to invest all the resources necessary to do agar work, why would you do LC's now? the point is for some small scale growers AGAR is NOT necessary to successfully grow
For the small scale grower there is no point to do GLC's or LC's just do G2G in your own words DUH!!!
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Re: Just say NO to LC and YES to PDYA [Re: blueconfusion]
#19252487 - 12/09/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nice write up
I think i need to get into agar next paycheck im gonna get some supplies.
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Re: Just say NO to LC and YES to PDYA [Re: loki44]
#19252495 - 12/09/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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loki44 said:
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SpitballJedi said:
 I honestly can't think of a single reason to ever do GLC again.
duh, for whatever reason you decided to invest all the resources necessary to do agar work, why would you do LC's now? the point is for some small scale growers AGAR is NOT necessary to successfully grow
doesnt matter what scale grow youre doing, its the success we are after. and you can make isolates and clones?
like i said its a no brainer no matter if youre doing 20-30 tub grows like a few of us or just 2 tubs.
like i said since ive switched to agar alonnng time ago my success and yields/quality has shot threw the roof
lol GLCs. i would rather do an MS syringe. oh wait i dont use syringes anymore :/
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Re: Just say NO to LC and YES to PDYA [Re: blueconfusion]
#19252504 - 12/09/13 08:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So why are you still here loki
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