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have you ever wondered why the south is racist? * 1
    #19251216 - 12/09/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.censusscope.org/us/map_nhblack.html

let me try to put this like a Koan.

a rich man noticed a young street urchin killing a cat. He yelled at the boy "why must you be so cruel to the cat?". the boy replied "because they are everywhere".


the people who like to tout how "unracist" they are, are generally the people who do not live in an area where black people pervade everyday life.

it is easy to be a Jain behind a mosquito net....


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: SneezingPenis] * 5
    #19251247 - 12/09/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: SneezingPenis] * 2
    #19251262 - 12/09/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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a rich man noticed a young street urchin killing a cat. He yelled at the boy "why must you be so cruel to the cat?". the boy replied "because they are everywhere".




So correct me if I'm wrong.

You're saying that cruel racism towards black people is ok in the south "because they are everywhere"?


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #19251285 - 12/09/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think cruel racism is any more prevalent than serial killings.

I think the threshold for labeling someone a racist is extremely low. crossing the street or locking your car when a black person is nearby is not racism.

the actual definition of racism is in regards to actively subjugating someone based on the color of their skin. With respect to that definition, i would say that the south is no more racist than anywhere else in the US.

but this modern day definition of "not liking" black people as equalling racism, then yes, the south is racist as fuck.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19251291 - 12/09/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

oh, and yes, it is ok.... by the latter definition, not the former.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19251295 - 12/09/13 05:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Doesn't seem like a very accurate koan.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #19251299 - 12/09/13 05:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

South had slavery, people were pissed when it was abolished, so i imagine that hate was past down threw generation because they were raised to feel that way, and the fact that the black population is so high in that area doesn't help.

Thats my thought on it.:shrug:


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19251305 - 12/09/13 05:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I want to make a tv show where you find the most adamantly "unracist" person and have them take a few graveyard shifts at a 7-11 in detroit and see when and how often they put their hand on the shotgun under the cash register...


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: SneezingPenis] * 3
    #19251324 - 12/09/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I want to make a tv show where you find the most adamantly "unracist" person and have them take a few graveyard shifts at a 7-11 in detroit and see when and how often they put their hand on the shotgun under the cash register...




Perhaps it is not the color/race of the person that causes them to rob a 7-11, but their socioeconomic status and/or cultural mores.  Perhaps in certain regions, color/race and socioeconomic status + cultural mores are more correlated than in other regions?

Perhaps you are simplifying the situation far too much to justify your racism?


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: 2bakednate]
    #19251341 - 12/09/13 05:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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South had slavery, people were pissed when it was abolished, so i imagine that hate was past down threw generation because they were raised to feel that way, and the fact that the black population is so high in that area doesn't help.

Thats my thought on it.:shrug:




I have lived a long time in the south... all over the south, and I don't think events that happened 150 years ago really affect or sway peoples opinions.

so would you consider the stereotypical hatred of mexicans by Texans to be remnants of the secession? or is it possible that the relative density of mexican populations in Texas are more to blame for that?


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: deCypher]
    #19251363 - 12/09/13 05:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I want to make a tv show where you find the most adamantly "unracist" person and have them take a few graveyard shifts at a 7-11 in detroit and see when and how often they put their hand on the shotgun under the cash register...




Perhaps it is not the color/race of the person that causes them to rob a 7-11, but their socioeconomic status and/or cultural mores.  Perhaps in certain regions, color/race and socioeconomic status + cultural mores are more correlated than in other regions?

Perhaps you are simplifying the situation far too much to justify your racism?




yes! i like where you are going with this.

so if someone doesn't feel safe around a person who is black, who just so happens to fit the stereotype of a felon, are they being racist, or merely cautious?

what I am saying is- how can you tell if a person is racist when there are so many other factors that are "forgivable" to react to?


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19251381 - 12/09/13 05:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

oh, and i don't need to justify my racism. I am perfectly ok with my views on black people.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19252307 - 12/09/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Perhaps it is not the color/race of the person that causes them to rob a 7-11, but their socioeconomic status and/or cultural mores.  Perhaps in certain regions, color/race and socioeconomic status + cultural mores are more correlated than in other regions?

Perhaps you are simplifying the situation far too much to justify your racism?




yes! i like where you are going with this.

so if someone doesn't feel safe around a person who is black, who just so happens to fit the stereotype of a felon, are they being racist, or merely cautious?




Depends on the reasoning behind their feeling of not being safe.  If they feel this emotion because the person in question fits the stereotype of the felon, then no, this wouldn't imply that they're racist.  If, on the other hand, they feel this emotion solely because the person in question is black, then yes, that would be a racist supposition, unless also backed with reasoning that tries to infer that given the correlation between being black and being a felon, that person is probably also a felon.

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what I am saying is- how can you tell if a person is racist when there are so many other factors that are "forgivable" to react to?




Honestly, I don't much care about when to apply the label of 'racist' or the concept of racism to someone as ultimately it can boil down to quite subjective standards of judgment of a particular person.  But I do think that fearing someone specifically and directly because they are black is irrational and stupid, unless backed with my previously mentioned reasoning correlating race to socioeconomic conditions and likelihood of committing illegal actions.

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oh, and i don't need to justify my racism. I am perfectly ok with my views on black people.




:lol: Ok.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: deCypher]
    #19253247 - 12/09/13 11:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I live in the south, and black people are not pervading anything. There's an equal amount of white shitbags. I don't believe in racism because I hate indiscriminately.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: SneezingPenis] * 2
    #19253299 - 12/09/13 11:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I want to make a tv show where you find the most adamantly "unracist" person and have them take a few graveyard shifts at a 7-11 in detroit and see when and how often they put their hand on the shotgun under the cash register...




Perhaps you should have attended Cornell University with my Black wife, where she schooled with other Black Ivy League students, who are today's 'movers and shakers,' attorneys, physicians, CEOs, and all manner of professionals. You want to look at the gutter-level of a financially ruined American city and project that onto what, ALL brown-skinned Americans of a certain socio-economic and educational level? Your mind is in the gutter, identified with the Muladhara chakra - survival, fear, physical violence - the lowest mammalian, limbic system stuff. And which physical organ is the Muladhara chakra associated with? Answer: the asshole. Your physical head may not be in there, but your mind seems to be. Your mind is tainted with fear, and IF you associate your fear with skin color, then you'd be just as ignorant as any sheet-wearing, inbred fucktard who ever lived in the USA. It's about a whole lot of variables, mostly those that I named - socio-economic and educational levels, not melanin content. The low-life who happen to be Black can smell your fear, so you have every reason to be even more fearful. They are all about Muladhara mentally too. Violent criminals are human scum regardless of their color. I've been friends or friendly with Blacks whether they were janitors or PhD CEOs, or anything in between. Fearing psychopaths is normal. Fearing Blacks is just racism. I recommend practicing 'color-blindness' while being cautious around psychopaths.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: deCypher]
    #19254788 - 12/10/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Perhaps it is not the color/race of the person that causes them to rob a 7-11, but their socioeconomic status and/or cultural mores.  Perhaps in certain regions, color/race and socioeconomic status + cultural mores are more correlated than in other regions?

Perhaps you are simplifying the situation far too much to justify your racism?




yes! i like where you are going with this.

so if someone doesn't feel safe around a person who is black, who just so happens to fit the stereotype of a felon, are they being racist, or merely cautious?




Depends on the reasoning behind their feeling of not being safe.  If they feel this emotion because the person in question fits the stereotype of the felon, then no, this wouldn't imply that they're racist.  If, on the other hand, they feel this emotion solely because the person in question is black, then yes, that would be a racist supposition, unless also backed with reasoning that tries to infer that given the correlation between being black and being a felon, that person is probably also a felon.




so acting a different way around people because the color of their skin is racist? does that include the white apologists that go above and beyond to be nice to black people solely because they want to show how "unracist" they are?


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #19254941 - 12/10/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I want to make a tv show where you find the most adamantly "unracist" person and have them take a few graveyard shifts at a 7-11 in detroit and see when and how often they put their hand on the shotgun under the cash register...




Perhaps you should have attended Cornell University with my Black wife, where she schooled with other Black Ivy League students, who are today's 'movers and shakers,' attorneys, physicians, CEOs, and all manner of professionals. You want to look at the gutter-level of a financially ruined American city and project that onto what, ALL brown-skinned Americans of a certain socio-economic and educational level? Your mind is in the gutter, identified with the Muladhara chakra - survival, fear, physical violence - the lowest mammalian, limbic system stuff. And which physical organ is the Muladhara chakra associated with? Answer: the asshole. Your physical head may not be in there, but your mind seems to be. Your mind is tainted with fear, and IF you associate your fear with skin color, then you'd be just as ignorant as any sheet-wearing, inbred fucktard who ever lived in the USA. It's about a whole lot of variables, mostly those that I named - socio-economic and educational levels, not melanin content. The low-life who happen to be Black can smell your fear, so you have every reason to be even more fearful. They are all about Muladhara mentally too. Violent criminals are human scum regardless of their color. I've been friends or friendly with Blacks whether they were janitors or PhD CEOs, or anything in between. Fearing psychopaths is normal. Fearing Blacks is just racism. I recommend practicing 'color-blindness' while being cautious around psychopaths.




the attitude that passes as modern day racism isn't generally one on one... meaning nobody thinks "stupid nigger" when they pass a black person in the hallway, or see them in the doctors waiting area. it is when they are in groups or in certain social situations and they are acting stereotypically black. See, your average racist by todays standards aren't hateful of the individual black person, but rather the type of person that black culture is producing. black culture is toxic, lazy, selfish and oblivious. It is when these traits of black culture are expressed by a black person that we think "stupid nigger".

I am considered racist by todays standards, but let me let you in on my thought process, because you are way off. I don't see a black person and think "goddamn nigger". doesn't happen that way. I see a persons demeanor,attitude,style/aesthetic choices and the way they speak and add that all up and THEN see that they are black and say "oh, thats the reason, they never learned how to not be a nigger". if they are well spoken and dressed appropriately nobody thinks "this fuckin nigger".

The person holding up the line at the convenience store scratching off lottery tickets and not moving, pants around his thighs and then buys 2 blount wraps with nickels and pennies and then hops in his 1998 maroon impala with new rims and shaking the windows with shitty bass from a shitty rap song... yeah, that is when people like me just shake their head and think "what a fuckin nigger".

it isn't white people "keeping darky down". it is black people that keep other black people down, by buying into this toxic culture and never learning another way to act. Furthermore, they actually make the idealized black dream to be a hustle. the end game is to never have to work and have everything handed to you for free. Females learn that they need to start making baby daddies as soon as possible, start gettin dem checks. It is only when a black person rises up from that bullshit that they get my respect as an equal of society.

now, I don't go out and subjugate black people. I just try to avoid those types of black people. I don't want to be around them, because it isn't about the color of their skin, but rather a CHOICE that they have made to buy into that toxic black culture and perpetuate it.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: Tmethyl] * 2
    #19257240 - 12/10/13 07:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You are a racist, and as I have zero interest in communicating with haters, this will be my final words with you. :bye:


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    #19257349 - 12/10/13 07:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: Rahz]
    #19257386 - 12/10/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm so sick of hearing people say shit is racist because a black person is involved. Do you people understand how many godamn races of people there are? On a side note I have lived in Southeast Texas my whole life and I have met plenty of white people with disdain toward blacks and plenty of black people who think white people are responsible for the worlds problems. Just go fucking kill yourself already.


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