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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: deCypher]
    #19250096 - 12/09/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

When someone doesn't appear to have put much effort into the concept or execution of some "conceptual art" piece but manages to convince the right people that it's worth a lot of money, I'd say it's business that they are truly skilled at more than art. Good for them though. There seems to be a dynamic sometimes where people pretend to like art that they don't honestly see any value in personally, just because they think it's going to make them appear more intelligent or cultured.

Aside from all that though it seems like a stretch to say that the very idea of art is just bourgoise wankery. Music is an art form and in some circles you see the same kinds of dynamics. Certain people pretend to like "highbrow" music types that may actually bore them (e.g. classical, jazz) in order to appear intelligent and cultured, and others pretend to like experimental noise music in order to appear quirky and esoteric (not that there aren't also people who honestly enjoy such music.) None of that means that music in general is just about self-serving bullshittery though.


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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: psi]
    #19250527 - 12/09/13 02:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Beethoven's Fifth.  Sex Pistols' God Save the Queen.  Akira Akuma banging on trash can lids.  Who is an artist?

The entire conceit of art exists for the sole purpose of denigrating the supposedly ignorant hoi polloi who don't appreciate what the cognoscenti deem worthy and heightening the false self aggrandizement of those with useless degrees.


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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19250634 - 12/09/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Beethoven's Fifth.  Sex Pistols' God Save the Queen.  Akira Akuma banging on trash can lids.  Who is an artist?

The entire conceit of art exists for the sole purpose of denigrating the supposedly ignorant hoi polloi who don't appreciate what the cognoscenti deem worthy and heightening the false self aggrandizement of those with useless degrees.




The term "art" is used by some to exclude what they consider shitty art, but that isn't universally the case. Intent is a less subjective metric. If you're trying to make art or music, then that's what you've made even if I don't think it's very good.


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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: psi]
    #19250686 - 12/09/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So you are basically saying the word has no meaning at all.


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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #19251081 - 12/09/13 04:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Not quite, I'm saying that it has more than one meaning. This kind of thing happens a lot in English IME.


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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: psi]
    #19251107 - 12/09/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That was very artistic.  Like a Rembrandt or Da Vinci.


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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19251124 - 12/09/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:lol: Thanks... I guess.


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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: psi]
    #19251227 - 12/09/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19252213 - 12/09/13 07:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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So you are basically saying the word has no meaning at all.




Its subjective, like is someone evil or are they good.  What art means to you might mean the same to many, but not to all.  I personally think my dick is a paintbrush and every time I fuck my girlfriend I'm making art.  I don't however think the painting of Hawaii I put on her back is art.


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