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Jesus Cristo
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Difference between smokers and non-smokers
#19250876 - 12/09/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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without sounding like one group is better than the other, in general i notice that people that smoke weed are more friendly, easier to get-along with even if their personalities differ, and are usually more chill. i've noticed this change in myself since i started smoking and friends as well. people that don't smoke, or rather people that never smoked at least once, are harder to connect with. i've noticed that it's MUCH easier to get along with stoners, even if they're total strangers.
The biggest difference is that they don't seem to judge as much and are more in tune and "present," and not just when stoned. Age, gender, race and shit doesn't matter to most of the stoners I know.
Of course this isn't true in all cases and I know people that smoke that are very judgmental and people that are sober that are very chill, but for the majority it seems to be true in my experience. Alcohol, which is probably just as popular if not more, doesn't seem to have this kind of difference in users/non-users, so I have to say it holds some truth. I'd much rather be around a bunch of stoners than a bunch of drunks. I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed this, and specifically how both groups differ from your experience. Do you find it easier to be around tokers than non-tokers?
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Re: Difference between smokers and non-smokers [Re: Jesus Cristo]
#19250933 - 12/09/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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imo people who smoke trend to be more interesting conversationally.
all of my friends smoke weed, I dint seek smokers, we just clicked, getting blazed together is generally an after thought.
personally I dont understand why everyone doesn't smoke, when im not high im very disinterested in everything/everyone and if you piss me off its going to last all day with peaks of rage.
I do agree there is a difference, much I believe to be cultural though because of the stigma it carries considering is still illegal in most state's.
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Re: Difference between smokers and non-smokers [Re: bishlap] 2
#19250997 - 12/09/13 04:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I disagree. I've known so many people who lost their personalities from smoking too much weed
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Re: Difference between smokers and non-smokers [Re: bishlap]
#19251013 - 12/09/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't know many daily smokers or anything, but it holds true for the people i know who do smoke occasionally, mostly. I'd imagine people who are unwilling to try are probably similarly closed off to other experiences. The few of my friends who don't and wouldn't even try smoking, this is definitely the case. They tend towards being more conservative, and perpetuating racial stereotypes a lot more. Also a lot harder to reason with.
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Re: Difference between smokers and non-smokers [Re: Ezuma]
#19251021 - 12/09/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Having said that, the few daily smokers I know -though i don't know them well- seem pretty boring. So I think its way less to do with the drug, but about the kinds of people who are more likely to try it.
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Re: Difference between smokers and non-smokers [Re: Jesus Cristo]
#19251073 - 12/09/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, I think smokers seem to be more in tune with themselves, so that tends to make it easier to connect with others. It does however depend on the individual. I have a friend who has never smoked in her life because of all the bad stereotypes associated with smoking. Yet she is almost as chill as a smoker. On the other hand, another friend smokes a lot and she is the biggest drama queen I know. Maybe friend #2 smokes so much that she's too in tune with herself? mere stoned ramblings...
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Re: Difference between smokers and non-smokers [Re: Jesus Cristo] 3
#19251313 - 12/09/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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If smoking pot defines who you are, then you need to step back and evaluate your life. Whether or not a person smokes pot has nothing to do with how interesting/open-minded/free-spirited they are. Enlightenment is not solely achieved through drug use, and in many cases, it is reached without drugs.
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Re: Difference between smokers and non-smokers [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#19251374 - 12/09/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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physicist said: If smoking pot defines who you are, then you need to step back and evaluate your life. Whether or not a person smokes pot has nothing to do with how interesting/open-minded/free-spirited they are. Enlightenment is not solely achieved through drug use, and in many cases, it is reached without drugs.
Very wise words. People treat you like how you treat them (or I should hope). Maybe take an interest in their interests. There's more to people than whether or not they smoke pot. Everyone is accepting if you're willing to accept them. If they don't then you can outright call them out and say you're always accepting of them. This usually shuts them up. If not, they're definitely not worth my time.
Overall there's 2 types of people. Those who can accept themselves and those who can't. As an accepting person I make an effort to accept both. When they are unaccepting or disrespectful I will usually say something. Otherwise we can all share a laugh. Maybe non drug related. Try making animal noises or something.
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Re: Difference between smokers and non-smokers [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#19251509 - 12/09/13 05:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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physicist said: If smoking pot defines who you are, then you need to step back and evaluate your life. Whether or not a person smokes pot has nothing to do with how interesting/open-minded/free-spirited they are. Enlightenment is not solely achieved through drug use, and in many cases, it is reached without drugs.
Everything we do and experience defines who we are. The food we eat, the vitamins we ingest, the toxins we inhale, the people we meet, the drugs we use, etc. If someone survives solely on junk food and pepsi for example, they're definitely going to have a different personality than had they chosen to eat healthier and supplement the right vitamins. This can even be a drastic change. In relation to my topic, though, I was asking about pot and how it seems to affect the majority of people I know in a similar and just as drastic way as dieting for example. It does change people whether you choose to believe it or not. I'm asking about the degree to which it changes people, and the specific ways you guys notice it does. And of course pot doesn't define who we are, it's a collection of the things I mentioned that does, pot just happens to be a big one from my experience and that's why I'm asking. If excersing and dieting defines a huge part one's personality would we have to "step back" from that? If pot defines a part of us in an equally great and positive way would we have to stop?
And I can personally say that pot HAS changed how "open and understanding" I am. It's helped me change old patterns of thinking directly/indirectly through its effects which also made me realize some things about myself, and in turn I "changed." It's boosted my creativity, as well. It obviously hasn't been the only thing to have changed me this way, but it has been a big part. Why would you say that it can't do this? It's a powerful tool/behavior/activity so it's only natural that it can have powerful effects. Enlightenment is also a completely different thing than behavioral and perceptual changes.
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Re: Difference between smokers and non-smokers [Re: Jesus Cristo]
#19251567 - 12/09/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Or maybe you're just growing up and whether you smoke pot or not really has nothing to do with how different you've become. Just something to consider. It's like those people preaching about how they got out of drugs and homelessness because of god. I'm like. Are you sure it wasn't because of YOU? You makes you. Not a drug. U can do a drug but that isn't going to change how you should inevitably grow up.
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Re: Difference between smokers and non-smokers [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#19251891 - 12/09/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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JacksonMetaller said: I disagree. I've known so many people who lost their personalities from smoking too much weed
What if what you perceived as personality was being inhibited on some level? What if smoking makes them they way they want to be, rather than who they feel they should.
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Re: Difference between smokers and non-smokers [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#19251933 - 12/09/13 07:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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XLCaps said:
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JacksonMetaller said: I disagree. I've known so many people who lost their personalities from smoking too much weed
What if what you perceived as personality was being inhibited on some level? What if smoking makes them they way they want to be, rather than who they feel they should.
No i promise dude. These were not people who were putting on an act. These were people i could have genuine conversations with about all the bigger questions in life, and now it's hard to even hold a conversation about the weather with them. Now, granted there could be other factors at play. Maybe depression catalyzed a lack of personality and a pot habit... But if that's the case, smoking weed all the time only makes it worse
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physicist said: If smoking pot defines who you are, then you need to step back and evaluate your life. Whether or not a person smokes pot has nothing to do with how interesting/open-minded/free-spirited they are. Enlightenment is not solely achieved through drug use, and in many cases, it is reached without drugs.
True point. I do think that open-minded people have a tendency to use drugs in the first place on the simple basis of being openminded, but it's not the other way around necessarily. Further more, i don't really think it's bad to identify with your drug use, at least not more so than anything else... But i don't think you should be striving to identify with anything other than your deeper nature. As one man so wisely put it for me the other day "that's like trying to box the infinite into the finite"
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Re: Difference between smokers and non-smokers *DELETED* [Re: Mad Season]
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Re: Difference between smokers and non-smokers [Re: Harrishroom]
#19251995 - 12/09/13 07:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well that sucks dude. Unfortunately some drugs hit people the wrong way. Oxys made me a little psychotic for a while. Didn't even realize it until years later.
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Re: Difference between smokers and non-smokers [Re: larry.fisherman]
#19252041 - 12/09/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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How can you tell for sure if someone smokes pot or not? My wife and I have been smoking pot for decades, but if you didn't that fact you would never suspect it. Same is true for most of my pot smoking friends. They don't look and talk like Tommy Chong in 1975. My wife used to work in the corporate world and she was always amazed at how many of these clean cut, yuppy type people were stoners outside of the office.
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Re: Difference between smokers and non-smokers [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#19252049 - 12/09/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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JacksonMetaller said: I disagree. I've known so many people who lost their personalities from smoking too much weed
I agree with this. I am one of these people. I want to quit smoking but i cant, i wouldn't say im addicted because i only smoke when im off work but once i get off its bowl after bowl. It used go be blunt after blunt then joint after joint now its bowls.. so im working my way down. But i don't engage in much conversation and i go out of my way to avoid people... before i started smoking i was much more interesting as a person. But i know plenty of cool people who dont smoke. I try not to judge people and try to get along with everyone.
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Re: Difference between smokers and non-smokers [Re: aw11driver]
#19252320 - 12/09/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I felt the same way for a long time but I was sorely surprised. I think it's just a temporary effect of cannabis. In the end, people are the same, they're just easier to befriend when stoned. They're more open. I know a guy who was a straight up judge mental fucking ass hole sober, he'd hit some good bud and he was friendly as shit until it wore off. Cannabis resides in your body for a fairly long time and even your average toker usually has some marginal amount in his bloodstream and it seems to affect them for days or even weeks afterward then they go bak to being fucking dicks after being sober for a while unless you know, they were already open to begin with.
I'm less tolerant when sober. I admit that it's a fault but whatever, that's part of being sober. I love cannabis but I've given it up for a while for other pursuits in life, ill come back to it, it's like a high school sweet heart. But I'll never be the smoker I once was. I feel like it alters my personality TOO much after months of serious toking. It makes me too carefree for modern society to handle.
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Re: Difference between smokers and non-smokers [Re: Mad Season]
#19252889 - 12/09/13 10:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mad Season said:
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physicist said: If smoking pot defines who you are, then you need to step back and evaluate your life. Whether or not a person smokes pot has nothing to do with how interesting/open-minded/free-spirited they are. Enlightenment is not solely achieved through drug use, and in many cases, it is reached without drugs.
Very wise words. People treat you like how you treat them (or I should hope). Maybe take an interest in their interests. There's more to people than whether or not they smoke pot. Everyone is accepting if you're willing to accept them. If they don't then you can outright call them out and say you're always accepting of them. This usually shuts them up. If not, they're definitely not worth my time.
Overall there's 2 types of people. Those who can accept themselves and those who can't. As an accepting person I make an effort to accept both. When they are unaccepting or disrespectful I will usually say something. Otherwise we can all share a laugh. Maybe non drug related. Try making animal noises or something.
Good stuff!!!!!
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Re: Difference between smokers and non-smokers [Re: blckmynnse8]
#19252934 - 12/09/13 10:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ill vouch for smokin weed erryday and it being a good learning curve, learning to do what my best interests are and discovering/comparing life on weed or life w/out it. I like life w/out and occasionaal hard drug experiences to keep me amazed, lively and evolving. than in a dull weed state all the time. FOR ME ITS THIS WAY, everyone is differenchet as well. I'm also a lot more preoccupied these days, occasional weed is still interesting though, mildy psychedelic and fresh to experience
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Re: Difference between smokers and non-smokers [Re: Dough]
#19252970 - 12/09/13 10:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Iv noticed this, I think its because weed is still illegal most places in the world and has a bad stigma as being a drug among some. People that don't smoke weed seem to often be more judgmental and strict about living life. I think smoking weed allows people to realize that there are things that other people think are bad and look down upon that really aren't that bad and it should all be up to the individual.
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