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BOOMERang27
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First grow questions
#19250575 - 12/09/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hello fellow shroomerits!
I am about ready to start my first grow. Very exciting! I am about to prepare my BRF jars for inoculation and I have a few minor quesrions.
1.Do my lids have to be glue side up? I punched the holes with the glue side down. Will this make a difference?
2. If I do the open air inoculation techniche with a sponge soaked in isopropyl alcohol, is that a good substitution for the glove box?
3. After I remove the masking take to inoculate the jars, should I retape them after im done?
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1)eithers fine 2)no, flame sterilize don't wipe with alcohol 3)no need to
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1. No
2. No, flame sterilize the needle between jars, and never wipe it afterwards with an unsterile substance like alcohol.
That alcohol sponge tek is just asking for problems IMHO.
3. No, no tape is needed, especially masking tape which is not breatheable.
If you do choose to use tape, even tho it is not needed, use 3M Micropore tape.
But again, it is not needed....we only cover the holes so no water gets in during sterilization....after that any foil or tape is removed and not put back on usually.
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Edited by PussyFart (12/09/13 03:13 PM)
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BOOMERang27 said: 1.Do my lids have to be glue side up? I punched the holes with the glue side down. Will this make a difference?
glue side up helps the lid come apart when birthing. doesnt make a big difference.
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BOOMERang27 said: 2. If I do the open air inoculation techniche with a sponge soaked in isopropyl alcohol, is that a good substitution for the glove box?
for my first grow i did open air inoculation with nothing but a bic lighter and had 100% success rate. i recommend making a sab still.
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BOOMERang27 said: 3. After I remove the masking take to inoculate the jars, should I retape them after im done?
dont use masking tape.. use micropore tape and yes replace tape.
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Re: First grow questions [Re: silverstem]
#19250615 - 12/09/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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silverstem said: yes replace tape.
Why?
The dry verm layer is your filter...there is simply no need for tape.
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Re: First grow questions [Re: PussyFart]
#19250633 - 12/09/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
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silverstem said: yes replace tape.
Why?
The dry verm layer is your filter...there is simply no need for tape.
its his first grow... you know how many times hes gonna pick up those jars... moving the verm layer. displaceing that verm layer could cause contamination.
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Re: First grow questions [Re: silverstem]
#19250644 - 12/09/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sure it could.....but he needs to just not play with them and they will be fine....
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Re: First grow questions [Re: PussyFart]
#19250659 - 12/09/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i completely agree...
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Re: First grow questions [Re: PussyFart]
#19250677 - 12/09/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Notahacker420 said: 2. No, flame sterilize the needle between jars, and never wipe it afterwards with an unsterile substance like alcohol.
That alcohol sponge tek is just asking for problems IMHO.
Can I still use alcohol to sterilize my countertop were I will be inoculating?
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Re: First grow questions [Re: silverstem]
#19250689 - 12/09/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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silverstem said:
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Notahacker420 said:
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silverstem said: yes replace tape.
Why?
The dry verm layer is your filter...there is simply no need for tape.
its his first grow... you know how many times hes gonna pick up those jars... moving the verm layer. displaceing that verm layer could cause contamination.
Hes right, I will be transporting them to a different location for fruiting. I should probably retape
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BOOMERang27 said:
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Notahacker420 said: 2. No, flame sterilize the needle between jars, and never wipe it afterwards with an unsterile substance like alcohol.
That alcohol sponge tek is just asking for problems IMHO.
Can I still use alcohol to sterilize my countertop were I will be inoculating?
it honestly doesn't make a difference imo... only the area that will come in contact with the needle and top of the jar does... some people take showers brush their teeth and wear freshly cleaned cloths. i however just put on gloves that i sanitize with alcohol then get to work.
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Re: First grow questions [Re: silverstem]
#19250732 - 12/09/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alcohol does not sterilize, it sanitizes....and it takes time to do so.
Yes you can use alcohol to "clean" everything.
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It won't sterilize. even if it did, it wouldn't be sterile for long because it's in open air. I really suggest a SAB for inoculating.
If you must do an open air inoculation, just clean the counter-top real well with any household cleanser. Bleach or alcohol won't do any better at reducing risk of contams than tylex, greenworks, purple power, simple green, or any other household cleanser you can think of. It's still in open air.
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Re: First grow questions [Re: PussyFart]
#19250749 - 12/09/13 03:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Notahacker420 said: Sure it could.....but he needs to just not play with them and they will be fine....
noobs do have problems with the neglect tek after they nocc up cakes
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