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Love will always surpass the joys of sex/lust. Correct?
#19249639 - 12/09/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Love is the strongest emotion known to man, only the honorable can take the responsibility & hardship that comes with finding true love. Now sex on the other hand is an easy fix, you get a quick pleasure but what does it amount to? Which one will liberate you more? A really good few minutes or a feeling of well being as if you are taken care of & found something others could only hope they had?
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Re: Love will always surpass the joys of sex/lust. Correct? [Re: drkkenny]
#19249645 - 12/09/13 11:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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For me it is love. Mrs. MPD is far too sick for sex. Our relationship is what has sustained us through her battle with cancer.
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Re: Love will always surpass the joys of sex/lust. Correct? [Re: mpd] 4
#19249741 - 12/09/13 11:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sex with someone you have a strong spiritual connection with will always be more profound then sex with a random person from a party as fun as it might be. Not to mention being in a relationship with someone you feel a strong love connection with leaves you with a strong feeling of cententment day in and day out.
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Re: Love will always surpass the joys of sex/lust. Correct? [Re: SARAtonin] 1
#19249752 - 12/09/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Did you mean contentment or sentiment?
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Re: Love will always surpass the joys of sex/lust. Correct? [Re: drkkenny]
#19249763 - 12/09/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Don't really see the hype with love. I personally can't understand it.
You love somebody for a set of logical, defined reasons. You love your girlfriend because she's nice, caring, good looking, etc and as a result it makes you happy. Happiness is good, you want happiness. Therefore, by loving somebody that makes you happy, you are buying happiness. If these "reasons" suddenly change, she becomes a whore, cheats on you, and so forth, you won't be happy anymore and thus you won't love her. If you still love her, you do it because she's still making you happy, but in any case its still selfish. LMFAO
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Re: Love will always surpass the joys of sex/lust. Correct? [Re: mpd]
#19249791 - 12/09/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Love is the greatest thing I've ever experienced, and the hardest thing to overcome.
I've only had sex with one person who I wasn't in a relationship with and didn't love, but even that one person I knew her and she was my friend. It was ok, I say it was healthy because at that time I needed that connection with another person, physically I needed to be close to someone and so that was good. But it doesn't compare to making love to someone I was in love with, SARA summed it up quite nicely.
That is why I never felt the urge to ever cheat on my partners, also because I've been cheated on before and that wasn't no fun and I don't want to pass that on to another.
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Re: Love will always surpass the joys of sex/lust. Correct? [Re: Alexestalex] 2
#19249806 - 12/09/13 12:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alexestalex said: Don't really see the hype with love. I personally can't understand it.
You love somebody for a set of logical, defined reasons. You love your girlfriend because she's nice, caring, good looking, etc and as a result it makes you happy. Happiness is good, you want happiness. Therefore, by loving somebody that makes you happy, you are buying happiness. If these "reasons" suddenly change, she becomes a whore, cheats on you, and so forth, you won't be happy anymore and thus you won't love her. If you still love her, you do it because she's still making you happy, but in any case its still selfish. LMFAO
See you haven't loved someone before, otherwise you'd understand that even if you and that person go separate ways in life there's still a part of you that will love them. Even that person who cheated on me, or the other person who her and I grew apart... I still have a feeling of love for them and hope that are happy now even without me in their lifes.
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Re: Love will always surpass the joys of sex/lust. Correct? [Re: The5thElement]
#19249890 - 12/09/13 12:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The5thElement said:
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Alexestalex said: Don't really see the hype with love. I personally can't understand it.
You love somebody for a set of logical, defined reasons. You love your girlfriend because she's nice, caring, good looking, etc and as a result it makes you happy. Happiness is good, you want happiness. Therefore, by loving somebody that makes you happy, you are buying happiness. If these "reasons" suddenly change, she becomes a whore, cheats on you, and so forth, you won't be happy anymore and thus you won't love her. If you still love her, you do it because she's still making you happy, but in any case its still selfish. LMFAO
See you haven't loved someone before, otherwise you'd understand that even if you and that person go separate ways in life there's still a part of you that will love them. Even that person who cheated on me, or the other person who her and I grew apart... I still have a feeling of love for them and hope that are happy now even without me in their lifes.
I've had the hardest time trying to get over my ex. She is the only girl I've ever loved and I still do love her.
I slept with a girl a few nights ago and just thought about my ex the whole time.
Sex without emotion or connection doesn't cut it for me, even the orgasm can end up being unfullfilling.
Love > Sex
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Re: Love will always surpass the joys of sex/lust. Correct? [Re: drkkenny]
#19249906 - 12/09/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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As I have matured some over the years, I've come to the conclusion that sex really is just a temporary fleeting form of enjoyment. Of course when I'm horny, it doesn't seem as much to be the case. I guess it's a matter of perspective. I think love is much more important.
Congratulations on your concise post drkkenny.
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Re: Love will always surpass the joys of sex/lust. Correct? [Re: The5thElement]
#19249944 - 12/09/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The5thElement said:
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Alexestalex said: Don't really see the hype with love. I personally can't understand it.
You love somebody for a set of logical, defined reasons. You love your girlfriend because she's nice, caring, good looking, etc and as a result it makes you happy. Happiness is good, you want happiness. Therefore, by loving somebody that makes you happy, you are buying happiness. If these "reasons" suddenly change, she becomes a whore, cheats on you, and so forth, you won't be happy anymore and thus you won't love her. If you still love her, you do it because she's still making you happy, but in any case its still selfish. LMFAO
See you haven't loved someone before, otherwise you'd understand that even if you and that person go separate ways in life there's still a part of you that will love them. Even that person who cheated on me, or the other person who her and I grew apart... I still have a feeling of love for them and hope that are happy now even without me in their lifes.
Man you missed my point. Okay, you love your ex.
What does that mean? Does that mean you'd be willing to be by her side for 39015093150909315 years, even if she spills liters of acid all over your body, murders your family, and so on? Would you be with her for 384848483 years if she was a disgustingly disfigured, ugly, and a raving, dysfunctional lunatic?
Where, oh where, do you draw this line of your's? Stop saying love is this epic thing with no boundaries, of course it has boundaries. Love is finite and generally when one partner begins to misbehave and cause pain to the other individual, the relationship dies out and ends.
tl;dr do you love your ex enough to let yourself be tortured for her violently for 1000 years? I can guarantee within the first hour of brutal torturing, you'd be screaming, begging to be free. Saying you'll do anything to avoid the torture and pain, even if it means no longer loving this ex of yours.
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Re: Love will always surpass the joys of sex/lust. Correct? [Re: Alexestalex]
#19249953 - 12/09/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It depends what definition of the word "love" you are using.
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Re: Love will always surpass the joys of sex/lust. Correct? [Re: Alexestalex]
#19249975 - 12/09/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i love my best friend. i've known him forever, he listens to me and makes me laugh.
i have painful, overwhelming, obsessive, relentless lust for hot chicks.
i'm a boy. what does that mean?
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Re: Love will always surpass the joys of sex/lust. Correct? [Re: nicechrisman]
#19249976 - 12/09/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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nicechrisman said: It depends what definition of the word "love" you are using.
What bothers me (well it doesn't bother me, I just find it ridiculously laughable) is how our society ceaselessly clings on the belief that the power of love is really some infinite force that is so powerful in your heart that no matter the situation and no matter the duration of time, you will love your partner no matter what.
The point I'm making is that we are simply deluding ourselves with these childish lies. It's easy to love someone who makes you happy with their good looks, bubbly personality, and charm. It's easy in the sense that it doesn't take effort, sacrifice, or anything. You love somebody because it generally feels good.
When you take away this security and comfort that we're so used to in western culture and you REALLY begin to test how strong love is, you'll be shocked at the results. Why is the divorce rate so high? Everyone who got married said those equally stupid lines that people are preaching here of "till death do we part", "I will love you forever", "love is the greatest force" and so on, but yet, a mere 10 years later, they're usually unhappy, depressed, sad, and so forth.
If love is truly this incredible force, why do couples fight and bicker over the smallest things? If the magnitude of love really is THAT great, wouldn't those small arguments be completely unnecessary. No, those arguments happen because the couples are slowly realizing that love isn't what it so was hyped up to be.
Would you honestly endure 10,000 solid years of brutal torture for your ex?
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Edited by Alexestalex (12/09/13 12:48 PM)
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Re: Love will always surpass the joys of sex/lust. Correct? [Re: Alexestalex] 1
#19249980 - 12/09/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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See, you're using the romantic western version of "love". I agree with what you are saying, but there are other types of love. Sometimes it takes some personal work to learn how to access these states, and this kind of work is not for everyone apparently.
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Re: Love will always surpass the joys of sex/lust. Correct? [Re: Alexestalex] 1
#19250182 - 12/09/13 01:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Man you missed my point. Okay, you love your ex.
What does that mean? Does that mean you'd be willing to be by her side for 39015093150909315 years, even if she spills liters of acid all over your body, murders your family, and so on? Would you be with her for 384848483 years if she was a disgustingly disfigured, ugly, and a raving, dysfunctional lunatic?
No that would never happen and that's a little extreme, when I say I love her it means that I still care for her and hope she is happy, I am not IN LOVE with her, those are two different things
Where, oh where, do you draw this line of your's? Stop saying love is this epic thing with no boundaries, of course it has boundaries. Love is finite and generally when one partner begins to misbehave and cause pain to the other individual, the relationship dies out and ends.
Never said it was any of that, the relationship may have ended but that doesn't mean you can't still care for someone silly
tl;dr do you love your ex enough to let yourself be tortured for her violently for 1000 years? I can guarantee within the first hour of brutal torturing, you'd be screaming, begging to be free. Saying you'll do anything to avoid the torture and pain, even if it means no longer loving this ex of yours.
No shit, if someone was torturing me I probably would'nt be too fond of them after that, she's never done this and probably never would, WTF kind of example is this to prove your point? is there a point?
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Re: Love will always surpass the joys of sex/lust. Correct? [Re: nicechrisman] 1
#19250184 - 12/09/13 01:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i much rather would like to be in love than just have a bunch of one night stands. nothing is better than being with someone who love you and accepts you for who you are. someone to share every day with; the ups and downs of life and everything in between. to be able to have sex with that person is even better because youre not just fucking but theres so much love being shared. i love, love and being in love.
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Re: Love will always surpass the joys of sex/lust. Correct? [Re: babydoll]
#19250233 - 12/09/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Love comes and goes, it takes two humans cooperating for it to last. I've meet plenty of heart broken bitter divorced people, there is no joy in years of that mindset.
Lust is always there, it never goes away, that is why we have billions of humans on this planet.
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Re: Love will always surpass the joys of sex/lust. Correct? [Re: qman]
#19250243 - 12/09/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Love though, to me, is when you really have that mind, body, and soul connection with someone. those bitter divorced people were not truly in love.
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Re: Love will always surpass the joys of sex/lust. Correct? [Re: babydoll]
#19250256 - 12/09/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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babydoll said: Love though, to me, is when you really have that mind, body, and soul connection with someone. those bitter divorced people were not truly in love.
They were in love, humans betray other humans, it happens all the time. If someone gets betrayed, they end up bitter.
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Re: Love will always surpass the joys of sex/lust. Correct? [Re: Alexestalex]
#19250287 - 12/09/13 01:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The5thElement said: Love is the greatest thing I've ever experienced, and the hardest thing to overcome.
K I admit, I say some cheesy shit sometimes; that's just who I am; I am cliche sometimes.... But if I look at what I've said, it's true.
I'm not trying to romanticize love.
Love is the greatest thing I've experienced
It is, I've never been as happy or felt more centred then when I've had someone in my life to share myself with. I'm happy now no doubt, but it's not the same compared to living my day to day with someone I truly care and love for; it just doesn't compare.
and the hardest thing to overcome
After things went south my life pretty much fell apart, to sum it up I lost most of my friends, lost my confidence big time, pretty much just felt like shit most of the time with no direction and just starting smoking weed all the time, trying to occupy my time doing whatever. I had no direction in life and felt like this for a good year and a half maybe? People get all butthurt and uppity when someone mentions love, it's like it's taboo or some shit. It's differnt for everyone, not everyone feels the same about it I can only describe how it's felt for me and yes, things can change but right now that's about as honest as I Can be about my experience with it.
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