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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: rougescientist] 2
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The moon is moving further away every day
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: zappaisgod]
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Yes at a rate of 3.8 centimeters per year. I am aware of this. Thats not what was funny.... He said that because if it moving at this rate, AWAY from the earth, it would eventually crash into the planet and kill all of us. Then made up a conspiracy theory, that all the physicists got together and decided to hide this information from everyone else.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: rougescientist]
#19250242 - 12/09/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism
Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes.
The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood.
There is a reason it's easy ,
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1237796/
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: rougescientist]
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rougescientist said: Yes at a rate of 3.8 centimeters per year. I am aware of this. Thats not what was funny.... He said that because if it moving at this rate, AWAY from the earth, it would eventually crash into the planet and kill all of us. Then made up a conspiracy theory, that all the physicists got together and decided to hide this information from everyone else.
You didn't give a link. The moon is moving away. The rest of what you said is dubious. Please provide a link wherein somebody who said since the moon is moving away it will crash into the Earth. Thanks in advance
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: zappaisgod]
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The continents were once all touching and are still moving apart, all the Galaxies were once touching and now they're moving apart, the dems worked with pub ronnie raygun now the pubs are moving apart, even with their own party.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: sweeper54]
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sweeper54 said: The continents were once all touching and are still moving apart,
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all the Galaxies were once touching and now they're moving apart,
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the dems worked with pub ronnie raygun now the pubs are moving apart, even with their own party.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: psilynut]
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Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism
Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes.
The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood.
There is a reason it's easy ,
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1237796/
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: zappaisgod]
#19252274 - 12/09/13 08:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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You didn't give a link. The moon is moving away. The rest of what you said is dubious. Please provide a link wherein somebody who said since the moon is moving away it will crash into the Earth. Thanks in advance
here is the kids section of NASA for reference: http://lro.gsfc.nasa.gov/moonfacts.html
The conversation was on a tea party website. Its in the comments. I don't want to go thru all of them, just know that there are a lot of stupid people. Its not that far fetched that tea party followers don't have a basic understanding of science(since they hate it and its brainwashing good white Christian folk). Especially on a tea party forum.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: rougescientist]
#19252936 - 12/09/13 10:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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rougescientist said: Hey Guys!
I am not a hard core liberal, just a open minded individual that believes in reason and science. The people that use this website are crazy. Straight up nuts. They hate Obama (duh),
Liberalism is the antithesis of reason and science. Just look at Al Gore: "Just beneath the surface of the earth it's extremely hot...several million degrees..." 
But I digress. Liberalism is based on butthurt and emotion. Not reason. If people thought logically they wouldn't keep voting in the same ass clowns who have been fucking this country up for the last 40+ years.
By the way, I see you are new here. Welcome. I'm starfire. I fucking hate that ass hole piece of lying shit Obama also. what are you going ot do about it? (if its any consolation, the republicans are a big a bunch of progressive idiots as the democrats. They just spend the money on a different agenda.)
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: starfire_xes]
#19253231 - 12/09/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I didn't realize Al Gore was a climate/geoscientist. I guess his take on "millions of degrees" should taken as fact!
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19253275 - 12/09/13 11:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It just shows what fucking morons display 'reason and science'
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: starfire_xes]
#19253377 - 12/10/13 12:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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OP I think you are too quick to judge, as calling people crazy is very dismissive. Perhaps these people seem so off to you because you "troll" them. "Trolling" is antithetical to reason. Is it possible you are too lazy to take the time to understand those you criticize, and hide behind the argument that they are unknowable. I have no doubt; with patience you'll be able to put "yourself inside their shoes", and use this reason you espouse, along with logic, to at least bridge any communication gaps that exist.
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Liberalism is the antithesis of reason and science. Just look at Al Gore
starfire_xes - By your post, I assume you think that Al Gore practices "liberalism"? Can you choose the definition that fits, or give us a definition of liberal that we can use as common ground for discussion?
from dictionary.com
Liberalism: "1.the quality or state of being liberal, as in behavior or attitude.
2.a political or social philosophy advocating the freedom of the individual, parliamentary systems of government, nonviolent modification of political, social, or economic institutions to assure unrestricted development in all spheres of human endeavor, and governmental guarantees of individual rights and civil liberties."
3.( sometimes initial capital letter ) the principles and practices of a liberal party in politics.
4.a movement in modern Protestantism that emphasizes freedom from tradition and authority, the adjustment of religious beliefs to scientific conceptions, and the development of spiritual capacities."
I'm not sure how Al Gore fits these definitions, does he fit one of these definitions to you?
Necessary Political Questions for anyone willing to listen:
Are you sure in your knowledge of the Left and the Right? Are you well researched in characters and their histories? Can you know with conviction what you know about your country is true? Is there anything more you can learn? What more can you learn about to have a more accurate perspective?
liberal is an adjective. This is it's etymology.
mid-14c., "generous," also, late 14c., "selfless; noble, nobly born; abundant," and, early 15c., in a bad sense "extravagant, unrestrained," from Old French liberal "befitting free men, noble, generous, willing, zealous" (12c.), from Latin liberalis "noble, gracious, munificent, generous," literally "of freedom, pertaining to or befitting a free man," from liber "free, unrestricted, unimpeded; unbridled, unchecked, licentious,"
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: Roger Wilco]
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I don't care. Let me put it another way: Progressives suck.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: starfire_xes]
#19254021 - 12/10/13 05:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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They also lie. There is nothing in his link that talks about the moon crashing into the earth
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19254086 - 12/10/13 06:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: I didn't realize Al Gore was a climate/geoscientist. I guess his take on "millions of degrees" should taken as fact! 
He is not a scientist he is a politician. I am a scientist, we don't like Al he has damaged the credibility of the science by putting his face on it. But, if you were interested in the science you would not go to Al gore or associate him with climate change.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: zappaisgod]
#19254089 - 12/10/13 06:30 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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zappaisgod said: They also lie. There is nothing in his link that talks about the moon crashing into the earth
You misunderstood me. A tea party dude said that "because the moon is moving away, then it would crash into the planet."
We normal people know that the moon moving away would not cause a collision with earth. And if it somehow did somehow, in a freak occurrence, it would be in a very long time and its not a conspiracy theory.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: starfire_xes]
#19254142 - 12/10/13 06:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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By the way, I see you are new here. Welcome. I'm starfire. I fucking hate that ass hole piece of lying shit Obama also. what are you going ot do about it? (if its any consolation, the republicans are a big a bunch of progressive idiots as the democrats. They just spend the money on a different agenda.)
For once I agree with you. The Dems and Rep. are assholes. And I don't love Obama he is the same as Bush if not worse on some issues. I don't blindly follow, but out of the 2 I rather go for the lesser of 2 evils. The Rep. and the Dems. love spending money on the biggest welfare program on earth. The military.... Too dumb for college, military. Too unskilled for a job. The military. Then when you get out, you get healthcare and a pension for college.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: rougescientist]
#19254306 - 12/10/13 08:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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zappaisgod said: They also lie. There is nothing in his link that talks about the moon crashing into the earth
You misunderstood me. A tea party dude said that "because the moon is moving away, then it would crash into the planet."
We normal people know that the moon moving away would not cause a collision with earth. And if it somehow did somehow, in a freak occurrence, it would be in a very long time and its not a conspiracy theory.
What Tea Party dude said that? How do you know he's a Tea Party dude and not some moron from Moveon.org. I asked for a link to that. You gave me nothing. Where did you get this information? Link it or fuck off.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: rougescientist]
#19254314 - 12/10/13 08:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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rougescientist said: By the way, I see you are new here. Welcome. I'm starfire. I fucking hate that ass hole piece of lying shit Obama also. what are you going ot do about it? (if its any consolation, the republicans are a big a bunch of progressive idiots as the democrats. They just spend the money on a different agenda.)
For once I agree with you. The Dems and Rep. are assholes. And I don't love Obama he is the same as Bush if not worse on some issues. I don't blindly follow, but out of the 2 I rather go for the lesser of 2 evils. The Rep. and the Dems. love spending money on the biggest welfare program on earth. The military.... Too dumb for college, military. Too unskilled for a job. The military. Then when you get out, you get healthcare and a pension for college.
It is harder to join the military today than it is to get into college. They don't take retards any more. Colleges will take anybody who can get a loan from the taxpayer.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: zappaisgod]
#19254383 - 12/10/13 08:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Be between the ages of 17-34. * Have no more than two dependents. Pass the Armed Services Vocational Aptitude test. (Minimum AFQT Score: 31)
You call that hard.... 2 out of the 3 requirements are just for being alive. I had many that I went to high school with go to the military, they did so because they could not get into college.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: rougescientist]
#19254391 - 12/10/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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LOL. Even retards are getting into college these days
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: zappaisgod]
#19254397 - 12/10/13 08:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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zappaisgod said: LOL. Even retards are getting into college these days
Sure but they don't do well and we don't have to pay for their college they have to pay back those loans. They may also get real jobs and contribute to the economy instead of being leaches. We don't have to pay for their clothes and food. We don't have to pay for their airfare. We don't have to pay for their PTSD. etc.....
The military has lowered their requirements 2 times now: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2008/01/dumb_and_dumber.html
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: rougescientist]
#19254424 - 12/10/13 09:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I will agree that ultra conservatives are most definitely less intelligent. Especially those who believe that what they were taught as a kid to be true, shall be true forever, no matter how much evidence you show them that proves otherwise.
An ideal government IMO should be like this:
- Fiscally conservative - Economically conservative - Progressive social values - Liberal human rights - Progressive laws and justice - Liberal on social issues
So basically, what it boils down too is that the government would constantly come up with new liberal and progressive ideas that would only be applied if it makes economic and fiscal sense.
Note that no extreme right wingers/conservatives and extreme left wingers are to be allowed in government. They would stall the entire process with unending arguments that essentially leads to nothing at all.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: rougescientist]
#19255330 - 12/10/13 01:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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zappaisgod said: LOL. Even retards are getting into college these days
Sure but they don't do well and we don't have to pay for their college they have to pay back those loans. They may also get real jobs and contribute to the economy instead of being leaches. We don't have to pay for their clothes and food. We don't have to pay for their airfare. We don't have to pay for their PTSD. etc.....
It's leeches. We don't pay for their college? College is heavily subsidized even discounting loans. The military deal is the military deal. They do not get paid much.Quote:
The military has lowered their requirements 2 times now: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2008/01/dumb_and_dumber.html
So? That does not refute what I said
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Patlal said: I will agree that ultra conservatives are most definitely less intelligent. Especially those who believe that what they were taught as a kid to be true, shall be true forever, no matter how much evidence you show them that proves otherwise.
An ideal government IMO should be like this:
- Fiscally conservative - Economically conservative - Progressive social values - Liberal human rights - Progressive laws and justice - Liberal on social issues
So basically, what it boils down too is that the government would constantly come up with new liberal and progressive ideas that would only be applied if it makes economic and fiscal sense.
Note that no extreme right wingers/conservatives and extreme left wingers are to be allowed in government. They would stall the entire process with unending arguments that essentially leads to nothing at all.
So you're a fascist?
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: zappaisgod]
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Patlal said: I will agree that ultra conservatives are most definitely less intelligent. Especially those who believe that what they were taught as a kid to be true, shall be true forever, no matter how much evidence you show them that proves otherwise.
An ideal government IMO should be like this:
- Fiscally conservative - Economically conservative - Progressive social values - Liberal human rights - Progressive laws and justice - Liberal on social issues
So basically, what it boils down too is that the government would constantly come up with new liberal and progressive ideas that would only be applied if it makes economic and fiscal sense.
Note that no extreme right wingers/conservatives and extreme left wingers are to be allowed in government. They would stall the entire process with unending arguments that essentially leads to nothing at all.
So you're a fascist?
Nah. Extremist should never be listened too, but sadly they have the right to vote. But its cool though, they a very small minority. People with extreme point of views that recieve support always end up doing very negative things. They are blinded by their own beliefs and stop listening to common sense.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: Patlal]
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Am I an extremist undeserving of my moment? Who the fuck do you think you are to decide who should get the soapbox and who should not? Canada is a free speech disgrace and you are helping to prove it.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said: Am I an extremist undeserving of my moment? Who the fuck do you think you are to decide who should get the soapbox and who should not? Canada is a free speech disgrace and you are helping to prove it.
A free speech disgrace? Interesting. List 5 examples.
In the meantime, I'll be posting 1000 example of why the US is a civil liberty disgrace, police abuse disgrace, racial discrimination disgrace, economic disgrace, unequal justice disgrace, nsa spying disgrace. etc etc etc etc.
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zappaisgod said: Am I an extremist undeserving of my moment? Who the fuck do you think you are to decide who should get the soapbox and who should not? Canada is a free speech disgrace and you are helping to prove it.
A free speech disgrace? Interesting. List 5 examples.
In the meantime, I'll be posting 1000 example of why the US is a civil liberty disgrace, police abuse disgrace, racial discrimination disgrace, economic disgrace, unequal justice disgrace, nsa spying disgrace. etc etc etc etc.
Vis a vis Canada and free speech http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Human_Rights_Commission.
NSA spying is not a disgrace. Unequal justice? Please be specific. Racial discrimination? Yes, you are quite right that Affirmative Action preferences for Negroes is a disgrace. Police abuse disgrace? Really? I suggest you get out more and challenge cops in other countries. The US is the civil liberties leader of the world. Canada, on its best day, is a pale imitation
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said: Colleges will take anybody who can get a loan from the taxpayer.
You forgot that colleges will take anyone from certain (cough) 'demographic groups that are underrepresented.'
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: zappaisgod]
#19261139 - 12/11/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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since when do conservatives believe in science??
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: Patlal]
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zappaisgod said: Am I an extremist undeserving of my moment? Who the fuck do you think you are to decide who should get the soapbox and who should not? Canada is a free speech disgrace and you are helping to prove it.
A free speech disgrace? Interesting. List 5 examples.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/when-is-it-hate-speech-7-significant-canadian-cases-1.1036731
http://rabble.ca/books/reviews/2011/01/anti-semitism-and-free-speech
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n1p12_Raven.html
This is new, perhaps Canada will become less reactive, and open to more voices as suggested in this more recent piece ...... http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/06/27/hate-speech-no-longer-part-of-canadas-human-rights-act/
Patal: all of that took me 3 minutes to search on Google. You could easily have found your five examples and clarified this for yourself.
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millzy said: since when do conservatives believe in science??
I'm a conservative and I believe in science. I'm an atheist, too which is why I reject the religion of liberalism.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: zappaisgod]
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What is a religion of liberalism? Liberalism is based around freedom of religion, speech, association, etc. Unless you mean it is a form of pantheism because it accepts all religions.
Some people try and use political correctness to censor but that is the opposite of liberalism.
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Conservatives and liberals should start talking together. There's a lot they could learn from each other
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Liberalism has nothing to do with freedom. It is the triumph of the Kollektif over the individual. That is the antithesis of freedom.
Freedom of speech? They fight against it all the time, see the outrage against Citizens United decision. Free association? See them suing a photographer who doesn't want to shoot a homo wedding. Freedom of religion? See them demanding that companies provide insurance for services that violate the beliefs of the owners.
There is nothing freedom loving about liberalism.
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No.
Why not?
Why post here at all? Is it not a political discussion forum?
Why do you type to people whom you do not want to learn from, and you will not take the time to teach? What is your drive for posting at all?
I've seen you attempt to give your thoughts to others. Why not listen as well?
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I understand the no. That's what congress is doing.
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Starfire, i totally agree with you. Liberals are the most illogical of all people. They take what they would like to have happen, ignore all costs and consequences, and then make someone else pay for it. As a result, the usa is on the verge of economic collapse as is europe and much of the world.
Take as one small example of liberal illogical thinking, they tell us that there is plenty of food and water for everyone but the reason people are starving is because the rich people horde it all. Think about that for a moment, food does not store very well, not for years and years.
The world is suffering from overpopulation and they want us to give away food and vaccines so the poor people will not die. Sounds like a real nice thing to do, right? Sort of like pouring gasoline on a fire. And yet we give away billions of dollars every year with no benefit to us.
How do you liberals like being trolled? Logical answers only, we all know libs turn to name calling when they run out of facts.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: Roger Wilco]
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Why post here at all? Is it not a political discussion forum?
Why do you type to people whom you do not want to learn from, and you will not take the time to teach? What is your drive for posting at all?
I've seen you attempt to give your thoughts to others. Why not listen as well?
because 'trolling progressives is fun' remember the premise this thread was started under?
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zappaisgod said: Colleges will take anybody who can get a loan from the taxpayer.
You forgot that colleges will take anyone from certain (cough) 'demographic groups that are underrepresented.' 
Intellectually dishonest, and false in premise.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: Stonehenge]
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Are you assuming that the US is a liberal country? Cause it's not, trust me on this. The most liberal guy in America is probably considered a moderate conservative everywhere else in the world.
The US isn't broke because of liberalism. You guys are #1 on the Hofstede IDV index. Hell what would help you would be a little more liberalism.
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Seriously guys, People have their own thoughts. If you have the notion that other people believe something based on some classification you ascribe to them, your a fool to your own judgement.
"Liberals" "Conservative" "Progressive" are all political buzz words and you have been snagged by the hype. People that are put in these categories do not all share the same mind. They all have the ability to think and they all put their own priorities in order. Projecting attributes to large intangible archetypes, and not striving to clarify, and see beyond those simplistic archetypes, to me, IS Trolling.
If you have something to say about a specific policy, person, or history, share it! If you choose to drive conversation into generalization it will only serve malign other's intent to strive for clarity.
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"Liberals" "Conservative" "Progressive" are all political buzz words and you have been snagged by the hype. People that are put in these categories do not all share the same mind. They all have the ability to think and they all put their own priorities in order. Projecting attributes to large intangible archetypes, and not striving to clarify, and see beyond those simplistic archetypes, to me, IS Trolling.
If you have something to say about a specific policy, person, or history, share it! If you choose to drive conversation into generalization it will only serve malign other's intent to strive for clarity.
All I know is people who claim to be progressives make me want to vomit.
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zappaisgod said: Liberalism has nothing to do with freedom. It is the triumph of the Kollektif over the individual. That is the antithesis of freedom.
Freedom of speech? They fight against it all the time, see the outrage against Citizens United decision. Free association? See them suing a photographer who doesn't want to shoot a homo wedding. Freedom of religion? See them demanding that companies provide insurance for services that violate the beliefs of the owners.
There is nothing freedom loving about liberalism.
What a strange notion. Liberalism was literally the triumph of the individual over the collective. The original liberal writers were the ones advocating for all of these things. Remember conservatives and their love of monarchy and arbitrary law? Liberals decided they liked constitutions better with all of the rights they provide. John Locke, John Stewart Mills? You know? The Liberal theorists who created this stuff? None of them were conservatives and conservatives were staunchly opposed to constitutions.
Do you remember the whole left/right divide that started during the French revolution? The right was the aristocrats and their arbitrary power, the left was the commoners who wanted freedom from arbitrary power.
Citizens united suggested that the ability to buy tv space is the same as being allowed to talk freely. They are not. One requires vast wealth and the use of tv infrastructure. If the CEO of Monsanto wanted to go and rant on the corner, noone would stop him. Should he be allowed to blanket the airwaves in favor of one politician or another? No, that is allowing the buying of elections which is nonsense.
I'll agree that suing over the wedding refusal is stupid but there is nothing liberal about that. That is antithetical to liberalism as it is the state forcing someone to do something.
For the freedom of religion, it is the freedom to practice however you want. No one is stopping those businesses from practicing their religion. If they are required to provide insurance and the doctor agrees a treatment the business doesn't like must be given, then what say does the business have? Do they get to dictate how the employee uses their check? No, the employer is trying to use their religious beliefs to deny someone else the right to their own religious beliefs. Freedom of religion also means freedom from your religion.
In any case, those businesses in that debate were incorporated and the whole point of incorporating and becoming a company is to create a separate legal entity. Since it's a seperate legal entity, it doesn't carry over their religious beliefs.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: starfire_xes]
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Are you assuming that the US is a liberal country? Cause it's not, trust me on this. The most liberal guy in America is probably considered a moderate conservative everywhere else in the world.
USA not liberal? I suppose then that obama is not liberal? I suppose the dems are not liberal? Only a left wingnut would make a statement like that. Show me a country more liberal than usa? You would have to look high and low to find one. Russia? nope, China? no, outside of parts of europe you aren't going to find anything close to usa in extreme liberalism.
>The US isn't broke because of liberalism...
You are batting 100%, our crack pot liberal policies of spending more than we take in are why we are broke and headed for disaster. The so called conservative gop has gone along with it so there are presently no brakes on this runaway train.
We allow in illegals and give them amnesty as a reward for breaking the law. Then the assclown obuma wants to give them another free pass. He already is violating the constitution by not deporting them and usurping the powers of congress to give them breaks.
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Are you assuming that the US is a liberal country? Cause it's not, trust me on this. The most liberal guy in America is probably considered a moderate conservative everywhere else in the world.
USA not liberal? I suppose then that obama is not liberal? I suppose the dems are not liberal? Only a left wingnut would make a statement like that. Show me a country more liberal than usa? You would have to look high and low to find one. Russia? nope, China? no, outside of parts of europe you aren't going to find anything close to usa in extreme liberalism.
>The US isn't broke because of liberalism...
You are batting 100%, our crack pot liberal policies of spending more than we take in are why we are broke and headed for disaster. The so called conservative gop has gone along with it so there are presently no brakes on this runaway train.
We allow in illegals and give them amnesty as a reward for breaking the law. Then the assclown obuma wants to give them another free pass. He already is violating the constitution by not deporting them and usurping the powers of congress to give them breaks.
It's funny how much words change their meaning. Liberal before literally meant liberty which was freedom from arbitrary authority. Taxes are traditionally antithetical to liberals. Free-trade is also traditionally a liberal position. Conservatives came from aristocrats who believed in arbitrary power that comes from their birth.
That is the whole left/right divide that started during the French revolution. The right was the aristocrats and nobility and the left was the commoners who didn't like nobility having all this unearned power.
Liberal changed meaning with FDR because people realized that business could have too much authority over them as well. Conservatives changed to support big business, libs the government. Conservatives sided with the status quo during aristocrat days and during business domination days. Liberals sided with big business when government and aristocracy dominated. Now they side with workers. Well, they used to anyway. Now they are as bought out as anyone else.
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Stonehenge said: Starfire, i totally agree with you. Liberals are the most illogical of all people. They take what they would like to have happen, ignore all costs and consequences, and then make someone else pay for it. As a result, the usa is on the verge of economic collapse as is europe and much of the world.
Are you assuming that the US is a liberal country? Cause it's not, trust me on this. The most liberal guy in America is probably considered a moderate conservative everywhere else in the world.
The US isn't broke because of liberalism. You guys are #1 on the Hofstede IDV index. Hell what would help you would be a little more liberalism.
The people aren't liberal. The government is and the media is. Everywhere else in the world? I don't think so.
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zappaisgod said: Liberalism has nothing to do with freedom. It is the triumph of the Kollektif over the individual. That is the antithesis of freedom.
Freedom of speech? They fight against it all the time, see the outrage against Citizens United decision. Free association? See them suing a photographer who doesn't want to shoot a homo wedding. Freedom of religion? See them demanding that companies provide insurance for services that violate the beliefs of the owners.
There is nothing freedom loving about liberalism.
What a strange notion. Liberalism was literally the triumph of the individual over the collective. The original liberal writers were the ones advocating for all of these things. Remember conservatives and their love of monarchy and arbitrary law? Liberals decided they liked constitutions better with all of the rights they provide. John Locke, John Stewart Mills? You know? The Liberal theorists who created this stuff? None of them were conservatives and conservatives were staunchly opposed to constitutions.
Do you remember the whole left/right divide that started during the French revolution? The right was the aristocrats and their arbitrary power, the left was the commoners who wanted freedom from arbitrary power.
Citizens united suggested that the ability to buy tv space is the same as being allowed to talk freely. They are not. One requires vast wealth and the use of tv infrastructure. If the CEO of Monsanto wanted to go and rant on the corner, noone would stop him. Should he be allowed to blanket the airwaves in favor of one politician or another? No, that is allowing the buying of elections which is nonsense.
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I'll agree that suing over the wedding refusal is stupid but there is nothing liberal about that. That is antithetical to liberalism as it is the state forcing someone to do something.
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For the freedom of religion, it is the freedom to practice however you want. No one is stopping those businesses from practicing their religion. If they are required to provide insurance and the doctor agrees a treatment the business doesn't like must be given, then what say does the business have? Do they get to dictate how the employee uses their check? No, the employer is trying to use their religious beliefs to deny someone else the right to their own religious beliefs. Freedom of religion also means freedom from your religion.
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In any case, those businesses in that debate were incorporated and the whole point of incorporating and becoming a company is to create a separate legal entity. Since it's a seperate legal entity, it doesn't carry over their religious beliefs.
That is actually a valid legal argument that is going to be very difficult for them to overcome
We seem to have a disconnect about what the word "liberalism" means. If you think it means what is today known as "classical liberalism" and most closely resembles libertarianism then you are correct. However you are quite out of touch with the current meaning of the word "liberal" if you think that is the case. The liberals are all about the Kollektif. Note how often they cite "society" and it's needs and wants. Fuck society.
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And right-wing media barons don't also spew their crap on the airwaves? At least be fair that it is a two-way street. Friggin' Murdoch?
As I mentioned above, the word has changed meaning. It has evolved since liberty from government and nobility aren't the only two types people need anymore. People also need some liberty from concentrated capital. When wealthy dynasties take over a democracy like in the US, you have oligarchy. Which is just a return to aristocracy.
Constantly attacking 'liberals' and saying conservatives have it all correct is ridiculous. The left ignores government encroachment, the right ignores business encroachment. The wise man watches and defends against both.
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That's all you got, right? Face it, you just want to shut up and shut off opposing points of view from the people. Fuck that shit Mr Pravda.Quote:
As I mentioned above, the word has changed meaning. It has evolved since liberty from government and nobility aren't the only two types people need anymore. People also need some liberty from concentrated capital. When wealthy dynasties take over a democracy like in the US, you have oligarchy. Which is just a return to aristocracy.
How have they taken over? Each millionaire has exactly as many votes as each loser retard. There are a lot more loser retards than there are millionaires.Quote:
Constantly attacking 'liberals' and saying conservatives have it all correct is ridiculous. The left ignores government encroachment, the right ignores business encroachment. The wise man watches and defends against both.
There is no such thing as business encroachment. A business cannot force you under the threat of violence to do or not do anything
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"That's all you got, right? Face it, you just want to shut up and shut off opposing points of view from the people. Fuck that shit Mr Pravda."
Meaningless response. Learn to talk.
"How have they taken over? Each millionaire has exactly as many votes as each loser retard. There are a lot more loser retards than there are millionaires."
We're biologically wired so propaganda works. The person with the most money wins over 90% of the elections in the US. Don't pretend to be so dense.
"There is no such thing as business encroachment. A business cannot force you under the threat of violence to do or not do anything."
Not all violence is physical. Tell this to the people who suffered the robber barons. In any case, business encroaches by bribing politicians and using their monopoly on violence. It is the concentrated wealth they have that allows this.
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Meaningless response. Learn to talk.
I speak and write quite well and clearly. You want to squelch opposing views. Own it, Mr Pravda.Quote:
"How have they taken over? Each millionaire has exactly as many votes as each loser retard. There are a lot more loser retards than there are millionaires."
We're biologically wired so propaganda works. The person with the most money wins over 90% of the elections in the US. Don't pretend to be so dense.
This is, of course, nonsense but what about having money allows them to take over elections? Is it not getting control of media? And who overwhelmingly controls the media in this country?Quote:
"There is no such thing as business encroachment. A business cannot force you under the threat of violence to do or not do anything."
Not all violence is physical. Tell this to the people who suffered the robber barons. In any case, business encroaches by bribing politicians and using their monopoly on violence. It is the concentrated wealth they have that allows this.
Please tell me who the robber barons robbed.
Again, how is this wealth manifested? What are campaign contributions used for? To get things in media. 50% of the NY Times pages should be considered campaign contributions for liberals. The rest is fluff.
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Was referring to this: "That's all you got, right? Face it, you just want to shut up and shut off opposing points of view from the people. Fuck that shit Mr Pravda."
"I speak and write quite well and clearly. You want to squelch opposing views. Own it, Mr Pravda."
I'm here talking with you. How am I squelching opposing views instead of making you tell me them? You're the one with the hostile tone. That's usually an attempt to end dialogue.
"This is, of course, nonsense but what about having money allows them to take over elections? Is it not getting control of media? And who overwhelmingly controls the media in this country?"
Well, obviously you know more than Goebbels. Of course control of the media is what allows money to take over elections. Who has money? The people? The unions? Not anymore. No, the largest businesses do. You seem to think liberals are all pro-government, anti-business. Which means the businesses tend to be conservative, yes? Soooo... The conservatives have the money via the businesses to control the media, yes?
"Please tell me who the robber barons robbed."
"By the late 1800s, the term was typically applied to businessmen who used what were considered to be exploitative practices to amass their wealth.[2] These practices included exerting control over national resources, accruing high levels of government influence, paying extremely low wages, squashing competition by acquiring competitors in order to create monopolies and eventually raise prices, and schemes to sell stock at inflated prices[2] to unsuspecting investors in a manner which would eventually destroy the company for which the stock was issued and impoverish investors." Wikipedia
The robber barons robbed consumers, employees, states and investors via anti-free-market business practices.
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"I speak and write quite well and clearly. You want to squelch opposing views. Own it, Mr Pravda."
I'm here talking with you. How am I squelching opposing views instead of making you tell me them? You're the one with the hostile tone. That's usually an attempt to end dialogue.
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"This is, of course, nonsense but what about having money allows them to take over elections? Is it not getting control of media? And who overwhelmingly controls the media in this country?"
Well, obviously you know more than Goebbels. Of course control of the media is what allows money to take over elections. Who has money? The people? The unions? Not anymore. No, the largest businesses do. You seem to think liberals are all pro-government, anti-business. Which means the businesses tend to be conservative, yes? Soooo... The conservatives have the money via the businesses to control the media, yes?
Unions don't spend money on campaigns? Do you live under a rock? But that is irrelevant to my point about newspapers and media companies in general. I would posit that at least 80% of all news media and entertainment is liberally biased. Will you please explain, as clearly and concisely as you can, why The NY Times should be allowed to be printed but Chick Fil A, for instance, should not be allowed to run all the political ads it wants?Quote:
"Please tell me who the robber barons robbed."
"By the late 1800s, the term was typically applied to businessmen who used what were considered to be exploitative practices to amass their wealth.[2] These practices included exerting control over national resources, accruing high levels of government influence, paying extremely low wages, squashing competition by acquiring competitors in order to create monopolies and eventually raise prices, and schemes to sell stock at inflated prices[2] to unsuspecting investors in a manner which would eventually destroy the company for which the stock was issued and impoverish investors." Wikipedia
The robber barons robbed consumers, employees, states and investors via anti-free-market business practices.
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rougescientist said: Hey Guys!
I am not a hard core liberal, just a open minded individual that believes in reason and science. The people that use this website are crazy. Straight up nuts. They hate Obama (duh),
Liberalism is the antithesis of reason and science. Just look at Al Gore: "Just beneath the surface of the earth it's extremely hot...several million degrees..." 
But I digress. Liberalism is based on butthurt and emotion. Not reason. If people thought logically they wouldn't keep voting in the same ass clowns who have been fucking this country up for the last 40+ years.
By the way, I see you are new here. Welcome. I'm starfire. I fucking hate that ass hole piece of lying shit Obama also. what are you going ot do about it? (if its any consolation, the republicans are a big a bunch of progressive idiots as the democrats. They just spend the money on a different agenda.)
Until next time, forward--
Yeah I'd have to say liberalism is a mental disorder, the part of the brain that exercises common sense appears to have atrophied in such individuals.
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TheOtherAdamSmith said: . In any case, business encroaches by bribing politicians and using their monopoly on violence. It is the concentrated wealth they have that allows this.
No, it isn't. It is the dumb fucking sheep who vote these tools into office. No one gets elected unless the dumb and the clueless pull the lever for them.
Blame voters. They are the ones who put scoundrels into office.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: starfire_xes]
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Let's also blame the pubs for having such a weak line up for president.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: sweeper54]
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Do the genius republicans realize that federal student loans make a profit of billions of dollars every year? Why do they keep hating on this program that makes the government money? I don't like that its for profit.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! *DELETED* [Re: Stonehenge]
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: EddYerb]
#19273737 - 12/14/13 08:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Opinions are like belly buttons, everyone has one. Venezuela, for example, is a socialist country. You can call it more liberal if you wish but the media is under government control. Business gets taken over if it does not do exactly what govt wants. I guess by that definition russia and china are liberal as hell. I guess thats what you want for usa too? Be careful what you wish for, being socialist or communist is not very liberal.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said: Opinions are like belly buttons, everyone has one. Venezuela, for example, is a socialist country. You can call it more liberal if you wish but the media is under government control. Business gets taken over if it does not do exactly what govt wants. I guess by that definition russia and china are liberal as hell. I guess thats what you want for usa too? Be careful what you wish for, being socialist or communist is not very liberal.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: Stonehenge]
#19273886 - 12/14/13 09:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Stonehenge said: Opinions are like belly buttons, everyone has one. Venezuela, for example, is a socialist country. You can call it more liberal if you wish but the media is under government control. Business gets taken over if it does not do exactly what govt wants. I guess by that definition russia and china are liberal as hell. I guess thats what you want for usa too? Be careful what you wish for, being socialist or communist is not very liberal.
Depends what you mean when you use the word liberal. It has evolved greatly in the last few decades. As it is currently used to describe politics it means anything but liberal in the general sense.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: psilynut]
#19273955 - 12/14/13 09:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism
Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes.
The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood.
There is a reason it's easy ,
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1237796/
Well.. even though I am quite the opposite now.. I used to be racist when I was young and I have quite a high IQ.. intelligence isnt neciserly iq.. nor is iq intelligence, though a form it is..
I just ought to post this.. and say furthermore that I think intelligence to be how fast one changes their loops of thought.. IE.. the difference between one who trips a houndred times and the guy who tripped once yet to know the same.. though defining time in a interconsciouss form is quite an other story which again makes it all the more difficult..
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: zappaisgod]
#19274291 - 12/14/13 11:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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>Depends what you mean when you use the word liberal. It has evolved greatly in the last few decades. As it is currently used to describe politics it means anything but liberal in the general sense.
This is true, "liberal" is a squishy term that means whatever the speaker wants it to mean. Today it seems to imply a belief in big government being benevolent and the best thing for us. This despite the fact big govt has proven itself to be corrupt as hell, and working against our best interests. Govt today is controlled by big money and cares nothing about the little person no matter what speeches politicians give.
Obama is a perfect example of a liberal. He wants a state where the govt controls everything just like venezuela, or russia, cuba, etc. All of which are examples of economic failure. Venezuela sits on top of a vast fortune in oil and despite that, under the fool chavez and the bigger fool maduro, it today is impoverished, its debt is getting higher and the people are doing worse and worse. This is the future obama wants for us and the so called "progressives" want for us. More socialism is more progress in their eyes and in the eyes of the left wing corporate controlled media.
Liberals today cry oceans of crocodile tears for minorities, special groups and the poor. They gladly rob peter to pay paul if peter is white and paul is not. They condone robbery under the banner of "justice" and progress. The fact peter takes his business to another country and ditches the onerous regulations is seen not as a natural result of stupid regulations and laws but as a treacherous act. They are supposed to hold still for the robbery and eat up the propaganda. Rather than amend the laws to make it profitable to keep jobs here, they make even more stupid laws, the aca is a prime example.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! *DELETED* [Re: Stonehenge]
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: EddYerb]
#19275682 - 12/14/13 05:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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EddYerb said: Wow, not a fan of liberals?
See the way I view liberal is in regards to advocating human rights, women's rights, gay rights, environmental rights, the legalisation of drugs, less emphasis on the military, the continuation of the welfare state.
But maybe all that means to you is regulation? I personally don't see too many regulations in my country that put me up in arms and make me angry, and I would hate to see what England would be like without regulation. I'm sure that hedgerows would be a thing of the past, a lack of public land, very few traditionally built houses, probably barely any countryside. Polluted seas, polluted rivers, no minimum wage. I'd hate to live in a country like that, devoid of character and natural environment, incredibly unfair to the poor.
So what is the regulation that is pissing you all off so much? Is it taxes? Is it health and safety style regulations? Is it building construction regulations? Banking regulations? Working standards regulations? Anti-racial discrimination regulations?
The only regulations in America that I could see that would annoy me if I lived there were regulations on drinking in public, smoking in parks and the insane punishments that are handed out to underage drinkers. Regarding driving you have FAR fewer regulations than us, but I would hate to have much less regulation on driving than we have..
So what kind of regulations is it that pisses you off?
Human rights? Liberals don't give a fuck about human rights. Otherwise they would have actually done something about the Taliban before the conservatives did. Blah blah blah twats
Liberals have no respect for private property. They think that worthwhile people should foot the bill for worthless turds. What kinds of regulations piss me off? That the only insurance I can purchase covers maternity care, lactation services, mental health coverage and rehab coverage. Believe me there are a lot more.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: zappaisgod]
#19275720 - 12/14/13 05:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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>See the way I view liberal is in regards to advocating human rights, women's rights, gay rights, environmental rights, the legalisation of drugs, less emphasis on the military, the continuation of the welfare state.
They advocate rights for "special" people, not for all humans. "the legalisation of drugs", you have got to be kidding me. Obummer has been a major roadblock to legalizing even medical mj, which he promised he would go easy on when running and did an about face once in office. He cracked down on medical pot more than bush did. He increased funding for the military, the continuation of the welfare state is what is leading to our present problems.
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rougescientist
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: starfire_xes]
#19281695 - 12/15/13 10:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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What is the alternative? It is clear that Obama is not a "liberal" or a revolutionary, he is just a status quo politician. His policies are the same as Bush if not worse.
The Republicans and the Democrats are really similar except for their message. They do the same thing, for the most part, but appeal to different groups. The Dems are the most inclusive party, not because they want to give hand outs like the Rep. like to say. It is because they could just keep silent and let the Rep. self destruct.
The Rep. spew say racist, anti-gay, anti-women, anti-immigrant redneck shit all by themselves to appeal to their blue-collar white base. Then try to make new voter id laws to repress minority votes, claiming that voter fraud is occurring (even tho its not!) That is my main problem with the Rep.
I can see how both parties in practice are the same, but to win primaries the true colors of the Rep's followers shows up. So I rather vote for a Dem any day, at least they don't say stupid shit that offends almost every demographic. (other than old poor white people).
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: rougescientist]
#19281716 - 12/15/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Check out the census data on who is using all the food stamps.
The Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program provides food stamps for almost 47 million Americans. Of those 47 million people 43 percent of them are white and 33 percent are black. Approximately 19 percent are Hispanic, 2 percent are Asian and the remainder are Native America.
These are figures from the census data. Look it up at :https://www.census.gov/did/www/sahie/methods/inputs/snap.html
Its funny to me how the Rep. keep talking shit about the "takers" and dumb uneducated working class white people keep buying into their game.
They think its all blacks and illegals using all the money! (illegals can't get SNAP benefits) They use their prejudices to keep the base voting against their own interests.
Its amazing, what a scam, the best thing the Repub. have is a poor and un-educated base, that happens to be racist and easily swayed with propaganda about Obama and how he was born in Kenya or is a muslim(like it matters I hope he is an atheist and does not believe in imaginary guy in the sky).
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: rougescientist]
#19281773 - 12/15/13 11:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Do you agree that Obama is a Keynesian?
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rougescientist said: The Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program provides food stamps for almost 47 million Americans. Of those 47 million people 43 percent of them are white and 72.4% of the country is white. 33 percent are black. 12.6% of the country is black Approximately 19 percent are Hispanic, 16.3% of the country is hispanic. 2 percent are Asian and the remainder are Native America. 4.8% is Asian and 0.9 is native American
So if your point was that...
Whites use food stamps in numbers far less than their percentage of the population (72.4%) would suggest.
Blacks use food stamps in numbers far greater than their percentage of the population (12.6%) would suggest.
Hispanics use food stamps in numbers right about what their percentage of the population(16.4%) would suggest.
Asians use food stamps in numbers less than their percentage of the population (4.8%) would suggest.
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That it's not possible to tell how Native Americans use food stamps in relation to their percentage of the population (0.9%)...
then you done good.
If you're trying to say something else, it looks like math is not your strong point.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#19283942 - 12/16/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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the moon has moved around 2 miles in the last 100,000 years. That is such a minuscule amount in terms of the universe.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: mindgnome]
#19284928 - 12/16/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Trolling liberals is just as fun, but I have better shit to do. Like work for what I have.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: myc_check1212]
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myc_check1212 said: Trolling liberals is just as fun, but I have better shit to do. Like work for what I have.

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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: psyconaught]
#19292546 - 12/18/13 09:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bump, I want someone else to appreciate the retort
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Are feeling frail today or something? This is the second bump for attention/acknowledgement.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: Enlil]
#19293537 - 12/18/13 02:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Enlil said: Are feeling frail today or something? This is the second bump for attention/acknowledgement.
Clearly it worked and you gave it another bump
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: Stonehenge]
#19293540 - 12/18/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well...yeah...If the guy needs a little boost, and all it takes is a post, I'm here to oblige.
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Re: Trolling Conservatives is fun and easy! [Re: Enlil]
#19294116 - 12/18/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Its greatly appreciated
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