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Help! 4 Quart Jars and general cultivation methods, Questions from a first timer! *DELETED*
    #19249316 - 12/09/13 09:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Help! 4 Quart Jars and general cultivation methods, Questions from a first timer! [Re: rougescientist]
    #19249640 - 12/09/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Oh jeez.
That was a lot to read and I can't remember 1/2 of it.
You're putting the cart way in front of the horse, here.
Grains are spawn, not substrate.
You inoculate 1 quart jar with 1cc of MS solution at maximum. Really you only need a drop or two.
Soot is sterile if the needle is flamed to red hot.
Use an alcohol lamp or torch to heat the needle to red hot before each inoculation.
Light is beneficial at all stages of growth for mycelium, 12/12 being preferred.
4 quart jars is just enough to make a monotub run.
You'll need to find some coir & verm (vermiculite) to make it and a nice tote.
You're getting things a bit confused between the PF tek (cakes or "patties" as you called them) and grains to bulk substrate.
PF tek is Brown Rice Flour (BRF) & verm & water. Once that's fully colonized you let consolidate then dunk and roll.
Place in your Shot Gun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) and mist and fan as needed until you get some mushrooms.
What you should do with grains is spawn them to bulk, which I describe how to do in my tek that I linked to above.
In between flushes for bulk, you only dunk for 4 hours maximum then reintroduce to fruiting.

All those crazy supplies you listed are not needed.
All you need is:
1 tote for Fruiting Chamber (FC)
1 brick of coir @ 650g
2-3 quarts of verm
1 gallon of water
Some polyfil from a pillow.


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Re: Help! 4 Quart Jars and general cultivation methods, Questions from a first timer! [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #19249693 - 12/09/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you for your reply! I was not aware that I had enough for a Mono. You are correct I am also confusing the tek.

I will adjust my Tek based on your suggestions, My only problem is that I do not have that much room to make a clean grow room.

With my restrictions on space should I cut the spawn in half and follow another tek? Or am I stuck with a mono with spawn (rye).

I also do not have all day to babysit the fungi with misting. What are your suggestions?

Thank you for preventing a cluster-fuck!


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Re: Help! 4 Quart Jars and general cultivation methods, Questions from a first timer! [Re: rougescientist]
    #19249707 - 12/09/13 11:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You could look into Dub tubs, bucket grows or mini-monos.
You are stuck with having to spawn to bulk wit the grains.
Monotubs are set and forget, or at least should be close to, I mist once a day to once every two days.
Nothing has to be sterile once you introduce your fully colonized substrate to fruiting.
That's def. not a clean grow room, considering when I came back from vacation a few months back,
My buddy, whom I let babysit while I was gone, let a tote fully explode with trich.
But, I got to punch him in the forehead for it.


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Re: Help! 4 Quart Jars and general cultivation methods, Questions from a first timer! [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #19249761 - 12/09/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Very cool write up!

I do not mind misting once a day that is no problem, I assume you need to fan a bit when you mist in the fruiting stage. Should I order the things I need from Out-Grow or do you have another reputable seller that I can look for. I live in the city and do not have a car so when getting things I usually go online.

Again thanks it actually looks much easier than what I had imagined and feel like this Tek is a good way to go. So I will go for it and report back to let you know my results.

Thanks!


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Re: Help! 4 Quart Jars and general cultivation methods, Questions from a first timer! [Re: rougescientist]
    #19249777 - 12/09/13 11:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:kenthumbup:

GL, mate.

I'd just go dig through the sponsors until you found the cheapest one.
As far as an FC, you should be able to find a tote around your place or close to you in town.


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Re: Help! 4 Quart Jars and general cultivation methods, Questions from a first timer! [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #19249912 - 12/09/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I have one last ?, sorry to bug you.

What do you mean by a 1:1 ratio.

Does that mean that I need to have 1-part colonized rye  vs.  1 part coir (including the vermiculite, additional grain for nutrients) Thus, if I have 700grams of rye then I would need 700g of the Coir mix.


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Re: Help! 4 Quart Jars and general cultivation methods, Questions from a first timer! [Re: rougescientist]
    #19250030 - 12/09/13 01:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That's just what I do for my "One Flush Wonders."
4 quarts of grain would be the bare minimum for the coir tek via Damion5050.


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