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st1llnox
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Anyone 'trip' often on DXM and then try a psychedelic? Vice versa?
#19248881 - 12/09/13 06:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Title says it all.
I'm wondering if I'll be more prepared or less and how the experiences compare, but to make this thread more generally useful (rather than a 'feed me advice' thread), it'd be awesome just to get general impressions from people who started out with dissociatives and then tried shrooms/lsd/mesc, or who went the other way.
I'm also curious if dissocs are different if you've tried psyches before (or the other way around), or if it's simply psychologically less of a hurdle to experience.
Part of me wants to worry that I've somehow diminished my ability to enjoy psyches because of DXM, but if pretty much half the world's been on SSRIs for months or years and since many of we psychonauts have dabbled all over the place, I'm tempted to just say "fuck you, pessimism ".
Whatchoo guys think? 
Thanks in advance for any input!
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st1llnox
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Re: Anyone 'trip' often on DXM and then try a psychedelic? Vice versa? [Re: st1llnox]
#19249269 - 12/09/13 09:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mkkkay guys cough syrup's too easy to get and too well known... is this silence trying to say ya'll found an acid source before you found a Walgreens? (not apples to apples IK IK, but I'd really appreciate some info 
Thanks TPE
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Re: Anyone 'trip' often on DXM and then try a psychedelic? Vice versa? [Re: st1llnox] 1
#19249277 - 12/09/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Into The Woods
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Re: Anyone 'trip' often on DXM and then try a psychedelic? Vice versa? [Re: Into The Woods]
#19249281 - 12/09/13 09:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't think you have anything to be concerned about as far as this goes.
Go for it, man.
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Re: Anyone 'trip' often on DXM and then try a psychedelic? Vice versa? [Re: st1llnox]
#19249317 - 12/09/13 09:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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st1llnox said: Mkkkay guys cough syrup's too easy to get and too well known... is this silence trying to say ya'll found an acid source before you found a Walgreens? (not apples to apples IK IK, but I'd really appreciate some info 
Thanks TPE 
Lol. Actually DXM was one of the last hallucinogens i've tried minus AL-LAD and LSZ. I think many people are just put off by it's stigma.
But to answer your question, dissociatives and psychedelics do have some things in common while also being EXTREMELY different. At high doses dissociatives offer a taste of the psychedelic mindset while also being fairly bizarre and lacking clarity imo.
Psychedelics on the other hand generally come with extreme clarity when you learn to surrender to it, but can also vary much more greatly in terms of emotional response. Dissociatives seem to be a little more neutral to me. Sure i can have good dissociative trips, and less good ones. But i rarely make the distinction between BLISS and HORRIBLE when taking dissociatives. So psychedelics can take you further in both of those directions. They are also far more visual in average doses
All in all i think you'll love it. Just start at a reasonable dose, know the signs for distinguishing LSD vs RC's, and keep a good set and setting. And remember that fear itself is the only thing to be afraid of.
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Re: Anyone 'trip' often on DXM and then try a psychedelic? Vice versa? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#19249347 - 12/09/13 09:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I couldn't find any psychs, so I began abusing dxm. You had to be 18 to buy it, I was 17 so I had to steal it everytime....so stupid lol
I did it like 25 or 50 times don't really remember
A few months later I tried shrooms and was blown away by the experience.
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Re: Anyone 'trip' often on DXM and then try a psychedelic? Vice versa? [Re: 11nova]
#19249367 - 12/09/13 10:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i remember when i used to eat triple c's all the time, i would take 20 put them in a napkins then rinse the coating off and ingest, i had a really wild trip one time, i was walking up these spiral stairs in this castle somewhere and it just kept going for the longest time, the stairs eventually led to this window and through the window was a view of this huge field it was beautiful i jumped out the window and onto the field because the window was level with the field and i remember running until i woke up and realized i was running and jumping and the room naked and doing crazy shit, then i woke up from that and realized i was actually just really laying on my bed i then got sick
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st1llnox
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Re: Anyone 'trip' often on DXM and then try a psychedelic? Vice versa? [Re: flipsidetrue]
#19249421 - 12/09/13 10:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cool, thanks so much guys! I appreciate the detailed responses .
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extreme clarity when you learn to surrender to it,
Oh hell yeah... that's the DXM Dragon I've been chasing--doin' it for the mind/thoughts part but progressively only getting euphoria (bummer jk but honestly that alone isn't worth it).
Can't wait. I've got some tentative-but-nearly-crystallized plans for my first trip which I think will be LSD. I'm pretty confident we're gonna work that out and if not, I'm ready to just buy a damn San Pedro cactus. Such good decorations I hear 
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flipsidetrue said: i remember when i used to eat triple c's all the time, i would take 20 put them in a napkins then rinse the coating off and ingest, i had a really wild trip one time, i was walking up these spiral stairs in this castle somewhere and it just kept going for the longest time, the stairs eventually led to this window and through the window was a view of this huge field it was beautiful i jumped out the window and onto the field because the window was level with the field and i remember running until i woke up and realized i was running and jumping and the room naked and doing crazy shit, then i woke up from that and realized i was actually just really laying on my bed i then got sick
Lol that sounds so CCC. I've only used those like 2-3 times I think and then I'd take like 1/3 CCC 2/3 robocaps to minimize that antihistamine. Except once... everyone's skittled bareback once 
That's interesting you mention a castle because I've been to one on DXM too. It was actually on the trip like right before or after I had made my first post ever on Shroomery lol and I really distinctly remember the spirally aspect of it. Lots of towers I remember.
Part of me wants to get some powder and try out some Dan Carpenter type shit, but until I figure out what's up with this slight, quasi-intermittent finger tremor thing I'm not hero dosing on shit 
How was the weather at your castle?
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Re: Anyone 'trip' often on DXM and then try a psychedelic? Vice versa? [Re: st1llnox]
#19249425 - 12/09/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dxm was the second drug I tried (after weed). The first time was quite thought provoking. I remember laying down and my consciousness floating slightly above my body (which I no longer felt). The darkness behind my eyelids expanded and became a deep space. There was a subtle light in the darkness. My thoughts became quiet, like all the mental squabble was drowned out by the dissociative fuzz. Very zen. I found the experience really amazing at the age of 15. I tried dxm a few times after that but only felt nauseous and dysphoric.
If dxm is your only psychadelic experience than mushrooms or lsd are going to seem extremely bright and amazing. I actually think it's somewhat easier I describe the dissociative headspace than a classic psychadelic headspace. Both are hard though and words don't do the experience justice.
I never abused dxm but I seriously doubt it will ruin your ability to enjoy the classic psyches.
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st1llnox
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Re: Anyone 'trip' often on DXM and then try a psychedelic? Vice versa? [Re: Whitewater]
#19249439 - 12/09/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sweet whitewater! It was reverse for me where at first, it was totally just "i can't believe my eyes are that big i can't believe this infomercial is like this i cant believe just omigod whut" and that gave way into the more thoughtful, guided and pensive mind trips I grew to love, but you can't get them reliably. Oddly, I got them more often when I really was straight up abusing if not outright addicted to the shit but I'm not worried too much about it... all good things wear out. 
I love the idea of a more vibrant headspace. I'm naturally a really hyper person and sometimes obnoxiously cheerful (though dogged with problems, of course--we're all human) and a mind expansion sounds so nice compared to how I feel on DXM; it definitely can expand your mind in a sense, but more than anything it's just bundling your mind up tight and tucking it in once you get into the quasipsychedelic doses around 3rd plateau.
Thanks so much for your input!
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Re: Anyone 'trip' often on DXM and then try a psychedelic? Vice versa? [Re: st1llnox]
#19249441 - 12/09/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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hahahah castles and ccc's the weather was nice, it was sunny like a sunny afternoon, and the breeze was blowing through the grass and weeds..
ohh and one thing i'll never forget about ccc's is the appreciation of round/pointy corners of things... wow i've never noticed how pointy this corner was.. and then feeling like your doing back flips in your head
my buddy tried to make some dxm powder once i believe he tried using some kind of circular cough tablets and crushed them up then put them on some aluminum foil and into the oven, but it didnt work
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st1llnox
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Re: Anyone 'trip' often on DXM and then try a psychedelic? Vice versa? [Re: flipsidetrue]
#19249512 - 12/09/13 10:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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some kind of circular cough tablets and crushed them up then put them on some aluminum foil and into the oven, but it didnt work
Man, replace the oven with a Bic and you've just synopsized half of all footage ever shot for the show Intervention lol.
Not surprised it didn't work, and I'm glad you guys didn't keep trying to perfect it--that sounds kinda sketch.
I might have to go out for one (more? don't remember for sure) pure skittles one and see if the delirium does a lot for the trip. And yeah... everything's so angular. Spirals seem to be a common theme too and the one "entity" I've met on DXM was just amazing. I need to draw her. She got mad I was paying attention to the chat room telling them about her and not her though and left but man I got the best trip of my life that night.
Months later I found out people have actually written on "entity etiquette".
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Re: Anyone 'trip' often on DXM and then try a psychedelic? Vice versa? [Re: st1llnox]
#19249581 - 12/09/13 11:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Man, replace the oven with a Bic and you've just synopsized half of all footage ever shot for the show Intervention lol.
haha i know right? it wasnt my idea my buddy was all about that dxm back in the day
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Re: Anyone 'trip' often on DXM and then try a psychedelic? Vice versa? [Re: st1llnox]
#19249960 - 12/09/13 12:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I started out with mushies and after about 20 trips I decided to try cough syrup on a whim. I did not like it. I would put them on opposite sides of the ballpark. On dxm everything felt kinda "evil" and disorientating, but overwhelmingly synthetic. I couldn't focus my eyes, and I was pretty dizzy. On mushrooms everything feels "ancient" and you can definitely feel their presence during the trip. They feel sentient to me, and they'll guide you if you let them (or fuck with you if you don't). I hardly ever get visuals on mushrooms (only 2.5g normally), but I got a surprising amount of visuals on dxm (464mgs) compared to what I was expecting. I enjoyed dxm's physical effects enough, minus the disorientation.
What really threw me off was the difference in the "souls" of the drugs, how it felt like dxm didn't give a fuck what happened to you, but mushrooms did. I guess I just didn't get good vibes from dxm. I think I'll try it again in the future, but more than likely not anytime soon.
If you can handle dxm you could definitely handle a trip. Just remember that dxm is dissociative and not psychedelic, and that it will be a different experience.
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st1llnox
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Re: Anyone 'trip' often on DXM and then try a psychedelic? Vice versa? [Re: flipsidetrue]
#19250277 - 12/09/13 01:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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everything feels "ancient" and you can definitely feel their presence during the trip
OMG YES YES YES FUCKING YES

Dude... you're talking to a guy who (at least pretends to) study ancient greek (I'm learning it, at least... tov mikron; kaipe ) and LOVES anything antiquity... That sounds awesome! Also, one of my favorite parts of Ambien was the feeling of presence so I can tell it's got two features I like already.
I figured I'm prepared for it (just not ready until things are a little smoother sailing) but now shrooms seem a lot less exotic... thanks for your insight! 
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Man, replace the oven with a Bic and you've just synopsized half of all footage ever shot for the show Intervention lol.
haha i know right? it wasnt my idea my buddy was all about that dxm back in the day
but at the same time heh... I thought I was working up a pretty hardy DXM addiction before I did that 3 months break but if someone said they were going to bake crushed up pills, that's about the point I'd realize I'm gonna be sober that day lol
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