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Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions
    #19248602 - 12/09/13 02:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

http://humansarefree.com/2013/09/federal-government-hires-internet-trolls.html

What are your thoughts on this?

I've suspected as such for years now. Now they come out and admit it


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: Shroomism]
    #19248625 - 12/09/13 03:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds like paranoia to me.  I don't think the government needs to do this, we do a pretty good job of shooting eachother down when one steps out of line too much.  They are mostly just a bunch of people meddling in things and taking our money because that is their nature. 

It sounds like the government is wasting its time which I consider a good thing because it makes me feel like the government is really representing what I believe in.


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: Shroomism]
    #19248628 - 12/09/13 03:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I hope someone in the NSA loses it and unloads on whoever's in charge there soon. :thumbup:


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #19248631 - 12/09/13 03:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think it's definitely possible.  Specifically because it is so easy to do.


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: Shroomism]
    #19248632 - 12/09/13 03:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The writer of that seems a little paranoid. Sound plausible though, it wouldn't be the first time the government has tried to discredit people/things that speak out against them.



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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: thoughts]
    #19248635 - 12/09/13 03:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Whom amoung us...
:tinfoil:


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: collie man]
    #19248646 - 12/09/13 03:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

collie man said:
Whom amoung us...
:tinfoil:



You decide...

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1. They combine their vast knowledge with disinformation and ridicule, in order to make a subject appear as uninteresting and misleading as possible. 

2. At the same time, they fuel meaningless debates on uninteresting subjects, easily diverting attention from the important ones -- while keeping the first page of a forum filled with subjects bringing nothing new or crucial, and acting merely as distractions.

3. If a given subject is of major interest and they are not able to instantly kill it, then they will divert the discussion to one of the never-ending "divide and conquer" debates, like politics, racism, war, etc.

4. They work together to report those who are informed for things they have not committed, like copyright infringement or spam, in order to have their accounts suspended; or provoke them systematically, looking for an offensive reaction that is sanctioned by the forum rules.

5. Finally, they infiltrate the high ranks of a forum or website, becoming "moderators". This gives them power to delete threads of interest, due to fake copyright infringement reported by their undercover colleagues, and they can go as far as permanently banning a user.




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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: TrentBoyett] * 10
    #19248650 - 12/09/13 03:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Zappa.
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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: Shroomism]
    #19248656 - 12/09/13 03:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Shroomism said:
http://humansarefree.com/2013/09/federal-government-hires-internet-trolls.html

What are your thoughts on this?

I've suspected as such for years now. Now they come out and admit it



Roughly 2 years ago Canada had an army of over 5,000 such internet trolls. Around 2 years ago Hillary was on Capital hill asking for budget increases in internet intelligence too, which I assumed included an army of trolls at least bigger than measly Canada's. Its an open secret, kind of like the existance of Area 51, where they deny it exists but everyone knows its there.


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: TrentBoyett] * 2
    #19248657 - 12/09/13 03:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Sheekle is definitely a fed.

Quote:

mjmihalov said:
FUCK THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

Anyone want to start a revolution?




I would but I am a little busy with my Islamic Jihad right now.


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #19248696 - 12/09/13 03:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hmmm.. At least I have a new career idea.


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #19248704 - 12/09/13 03:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

moonrockmushy said:
Sounds like paranoia to me.  I don't think the government needs to do this, we do a pretty good job of shooting eachother down when one steps out of line too much.



Precisely. It's what I call the 'Shepherd'less Herd', the need of a sheep dog, or shepherd, are no longer necessary when you train the sheep to control each other. When someone does some digging and/or logic using, they are automatically 'conspiracy theorists' and anyone who doesn't partake in the consumption of Christian Gods cocks, is the devil; theyz blasphemers.

In short; we're all fucked. Doesn't matter if you take down the Government, the people are still stupid, illogical.. and twerking.


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: collie man]
    #19248743 - 12/09/13 04:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

collie man said:
Zappa.
pris.



Enlil
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this article is old news though I've known this for years and its not terribly difficult to spot them.


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: Shins] * 1
    #19248762 - 12/09/13 04:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm pretty sure Israel does the most "trolling" anyway.  They got all those army recruits, they probably just warehouse the ones who aren't fit or willing to fight and force them to troll the internet in the name of world domination or something.  I feel like I've seen them on youtube and I know I've heard about it somewhere.


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: collie man] * 1
    #19248784 - 12/09/13 04:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

collie man said:
Whom amoung us...
:tinfoil:




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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: spazmodog]
    #19248812 - 12/09/13 05:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Honestly that sounds pretty stupid.


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: Shroomism]
    #19248817 - 12/09/13 05:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and [Re: Shroomism]
    #19248828 - 12/09/13 05:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:salmon:


Edited by Corporal Kielbasa (12/11/13 09:26 AM)


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and [Re: Shroomism] * 2
    #19248859 - 12/09/13 05:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think it's a very far-fetched idea that intelligence agencies in the West also interact on the internet to distort information or try to divert the attention from certain subjects. But...there are a few things mentioned in the article the OP links to that worry me, i.e. in the "How to spot internet trolls" section. The criteria mentioned there are likely to include many people who aren't CIA/FBI/whatever-paid and -instructed trolls, but just private people who happen to match those same criteria. This induces the risk of a witch hunt, which doesn't seem like a smart thing to undertake.


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and [Re: koraks]
    #19248864 - 12/09/13 05:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I felt like I got targeted as a troll for asking a question about bayou corne.  Dude was hyping up its growth and I sent a pm saying its been raining all week there.  Could the high water table be making it appear to be growing in the recent fly over? That afternoon he is going off about trolls and yada yada...

ok now I'm actually gonna read the original artical
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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #19248883 - 12/09/13 06:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This might explain why there's always one or two idiots that still argue in favor of the government and corporations against all logic and common sense.


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and [Re: Quawonk]
    #19248917 - 12/09/13 06:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=234546.0

Gentlemen's Guide to Forum Spies (Spooks, Feds, Trolls, etc.)


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and [Re: Konyap]
    #19248944 - 12/09/13 06:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Jeez now I feel like a double agent for asking questions or going off topic.

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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #19248947 - 12/09/13 06:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Best Job ever?  lol. 


:trollersgonnatroll:


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and [Re: memes]
    #19249001 - 12/09/13 07:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Seems like a pretty shitty article. The video is a Canadian news clip (so when they say "the government" they mean the Canadian government) and the reference links are sites like Natural News and Occupy, and a NSA link that does not make any reference to paid trolling. There's very little there to back up what they're saying at all that I can see.


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #19249043 - 12/09/13 07:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Only a troll or double agent would be paranoid of being a troll or double agent, mr troll or double agent :p


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and [Re: memes]
    #19249075 - 12/09/13 07:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah you know get baked all day, make my own hours, etc.  The only shitty part is when at my other job the people I'm watching do stuff like this :goatse:

lol I'm done before anyone starts taking me serious.


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #19249164 - 12/09/13 08:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

this is nothing new


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #19249167 - 12/09/13 08:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Definitely had some of that nonsense in my "Flu Shot Conspiracy" thread:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19180665


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up]
    #19249219 - 12/09/13 09:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

fuck I could have been getting paid by the feds for what I love to do anyway


NYtimes FEDS infiltrate  world of warcraft


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and [Re: Quawonk]
    #19249222 - 12/09/13 09:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Quawonk said:
This might explain why there's always one or two idiots that still argue in favor of the government and corporations against all logic and common sense.




I wish that was all they did. I suspect a large percent of the train wreck trip reports were written by them as well. They are actively trying to spread disinformation on drug boards as well as trying to make sure we don't get organized. Every pot legalization group I ever met had these people disrupting everything. They aren't cops and they smoke dope too, they just are paid to cause friction in a group. I could spot them pretty quickly, mainly because people all around them kept getting busted, and everything they touched turned to shit. Ever see a representative of drug legalization and think "wow he really makes us look bad"? His job is to make us look bad.
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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and [Re: Quawonk] * 2
    #19249231 - 12/09/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Quawonk said:
This might explain why there's always one or two idiots that still argue in favor of the government and corporations against all logic and common sense.




At least corporations are owned by the people.  You can't say that about government.


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and [Re: mpd]
    #19249310 - 12/09/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

mpd said:
Quote:

Quawonk said:
This might explain why there's always one or two idiots that still argue in favor of the government and corporations against all logic and common sense.




At least corporations are owned by the people.  You can't say that about government.




Fixed that for you . Speaking of which where is my job offer :crankey:


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and [Re: trekie]
    #19249315 - 12/09/13 09:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

NPR Orc and Dagger
link

"U.S. and British intelligence agencies have worked to infiltrate networks of violence-prone individuals who might unite for a common cause. And in some cases, the spies are also targeting networks that aren't regional terrorist cells — they're online gaming communities, according to the latest revelation from documents given to the media by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden.

"Exploiting Terrorist Use of Games & Virtual Environments" is the name of a 2008 NSA document being cited in coordinated reports out Monday from The Guardian, ProPublica and The New York Times.

The reports describe spy agencies' push to infiltrate systems that allow millions of people to closely collaborate and even exchange money — all through a veil of alternate identities.

The project involved spies creating identities in networks that include Second Life and World of Warcraft, according to the reports. Another arm of the work is said to have collected massive amounts of data from Microsoft's Xbox Live network and elsewhere."



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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #19249379 - 12/09/13 10:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

These fuckers just want to get paid for playing video games. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #19249389 - 12/09/13 10:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It's accepted fact that both Apple and Microsoft have been sending in professional trolls to open source software development forums pretty much since the existence of the Internet. Not too much of a stretch to assume national governments are doing something similar--as mentioned, the Canadian federal government is known to utilise such tactics--the day Canada has a "national defense program" that the USA doesn't...


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #19249487 - 12/09/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah for real.  It makes sense on the global communication aspect of it.


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #19249595 - 12/09/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

A few shroomerites come to mind....


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: Shroomism] * 9
    #19249672 - 12/09/13 11:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I KNEW IT!

Everyone who disagrees with me is a shill.


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: Rose]
    #19249826 - 12/09/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Definitely sheekle.


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: Shroomism] * 3
    #19249838 - 12/09/13 12:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

We need to start a witch hunt immediately


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: nicechrisman] * 1
    #19250108 - 12/09/13 01:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Cervantes said:
I KNEW IT!

Everyone who disagrees with me is a shill.



Quote:

nicechrisman said:
We need to start a witch hunt immediately





You guys seem too eager. SHILLS!


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: psi]
    #19250120 - 12/09/13 01:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I hope government agents are smart enough to overthrow the government from teh inside.

Unless they're too pussy to.
They probably are.

LOL, what a bunch of pussies.:haha:


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: psi]
    #19250122 - 12/09/13 01:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well all we have to asks our selves is who still praises the current administration.


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: Rose]
    #19250231 - 12/09/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Cervantes said:
I KNEW IT!

Everyone who disagrees with me is a shill.



^what he said.


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: collie man] * 1
    #19250264 - 12/09/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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collie man said:
Zappa.
pris.



:strokebeard:


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #19250322 - 12/09/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

luvdemshrooms


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: Rose]
    #19250407 - 12/09/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Cervantes said:
I KNEW IT!

Everyone who disagrees with me is a shill.




Either a shill or a dumbass.


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: Quawonk]
    #19250428 - 12/09/13 02:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I have talked to both Zappa and prisoner #1 on the telephone. I'm pretty sure it's not them.


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #19250443 - 12/09/13 02:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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MisterMuscaria said:
luvdemshrooms




:lol:

Nobody hired me. I simply enjoy pointing out errors and stupidity.

Having said that, my starting price for being a shill would require a 9 figure advance payment. However, seeing as it took to page 3 for someone to toss my name out, I doubt I'd get the job. :frown:


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #19250483 - 12/09/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So what do they do go through the comments on youtube and the biggest prick gets a job?


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Re: Federal Government Hires Internet TROLLS to Monitor and "Correct" Online Discussions [Re: Murph]
    #19250560 - 12/09/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

/pol/ was right again


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