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Cat allergies diminished by use of LSD
    #19247881 - 12/08/13 11:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I posted something about this in the past but didn't really say much at all and the thread was locked or deleted.

I have, my whole life, had allergies to cats.
They were BAD as a child but over the last few years they have been better, just sneezing and getting a bit stuffed up.

A couple months ago, I was coming home from a concert while on LSD and I started playing with a neighbors cat for a while.
After I bit I was thinking to myself "oh man, I got cat hair all over me, I'm going to be sneezing whenever I wear this"
But I didn't sneeze at all.
Not for the 20-30 minutes playing with the cat, not when I sobered up, not the next morning...
Ever since, I have had no allergic reactions around cats whatsoever.

I'm going to put this to a reallll test soon... But I think I'm no longer allergic to cats... Which is fucking awesome. I love cats and really want one, but just never could have one.

I also just today read about someone who had the exact same thing happen to him.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/weil-says-lsd-cured-his-allergy-01-03-2001/
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Its advocates have always said LSD clears the mind, but now Andrew Weil says it cleared his sinuses as well.

Dr. Weil, the Harvard-educated proponent of alternative health therapies, told Ed Bradley that his life-long allergy to cats was cured by a dose of LSD.

”I took LSD,” he says. ”I was in a wonderful outdoor setting. I felt terrific and, in the midst of this, a cat came up to me and crawled into my lap. I did not have an allergic reaction to it and I never did since.”

Weil says that some allergies are learned. ”That gave me the idea that [taking LSD] would be a great way to teach people to unlearn allergies,” he says. ”If the drugs were legal, I think I would recommend that some patients do it.”

Weil has been called a shaman, a medical holy man, a magician and a host of other terms by his critics. ”I don't know about a holy man, how about wizard? I'll settle for wizard,” he says.

Weil is extremely popular and on the leading edge of an alternative medicine movement that stresses that, in some cases, herbs, mind therapies and special diets can help or cure illnesses - even cancerous tumors. Weil claims to have been immediately cured of a sore throat by an energy healer. ”The influence of belief on the body, this to me is magical…wonderful,” he says.

One of Weil's teachers has problems with his former student's ideas. ”What I take Andy to task for is that he allows people to believe that very often you can cure these serious physical ailments by belief and mysticism…There's not a shred of evidence that it's so,” says Dr. Arnold Relman, professor emeritus at the Harvard Medical School.




Has anyone ever heard of this happening? Has anyone personally had this happen to them?


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Re: Cat allergies diminished by use of LSD [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #19247905 - 12/08/13 11:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

maybe it was a hypoallergenic cat? or you grew out of your allergy? if it is the acid that's pretty cool though. Regardless i'm glad you're not allergic anymore. I know how much allergies can suck


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Re: Cat allergies diminished by use of LSD [Re: dontknow]
    #19247920 - 12/08/13 11:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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dontknow said:
maybe it was a hypoallergenic cat? or you grew out of your allergy? if it is the acid that's pretty cool though. Regardless i'm glad you're not allergic anymore. I know how much allergies can suck



I am occasionally around 3 different cats these days.
None of them have had me sneezing since the time playing with one on LSD.
Two of the 3 I use to be around before the trip and they would make me sneeze a bit.
The 3rd is the one I tripped with and it never makes me sneeze either.


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Re: Cat allergies diminished by use of LSD [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #19248032 - 12/08/13 11:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Interesting. I'd read that report by Weil a while ago and it always made sense. Never under estimate lsd's ability to re-program how the nervous system works!


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Re: Cat allergies diminished by use of LSD [Re: gushtunkinflupped]
    #19249307 - 12/09/13 09:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:havesomescience:

I highly recommend anyone with cat allergies try playing with a cat on LSD and see if they have similar effects to this.
This could be one of the biggest benefits towards giving psychedelics a good name and possible legalization if more and more people start reporting being able to get rid of their allergies due to the chemical.


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Re: Cat allergies diminished by use of LSD [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #19249510 - 12/09/13 10:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Shroomopotamus said:
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dontknow said:
maybe it was a hypoallergenic cat? or you grew out of your allergy? if it is the acid that's pretty cool though. Regardless i'm glad you're not allergic anymore. I know how much allergies can suck



I am occasionally around 3 different cats these days.
None of them have had me sneezing since the time playing with one on LSD.
Two of the 3 I use to be around before the trip and they would make me sneeze a bit.
The 3rd is the one I tripped with and it never makes me sneeze either.



When was the last time you were around a cat before the trip?


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Re: Cat allergies diminished by use of LSD [Re: SprewellSleeve]
    #19249525 - 12/09/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Cat allergies diminished by use of LSD [Re: SprewellSleeve]
    #19249556 - 12/09/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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SprewellSleeve said:
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Shroomopotamus said:
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dontknow said:
maybe it was a hypoallergenic cat? or you grew out of your allergy? if it is the acid that's pretty cool though. Regardless i'm glad you're not allergic anymore. I know how much allergies can suck



I am occasionally around 3 different cats these days.
None of them have had me sneezing since the time playing with one on LSD.
Two of the 3 I use to be around before the trip and they would make me sneeze a bit.
The 3rd is the one I tripped with and it never makes me sneeze either.



When was the last time you were around a cat before the trip?



Exact date, I'm not sure but fairly recently.
I'm around cats pretty often.


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Re: Cat allergies diminished by use of LSD [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #19249583 - 12/09/13 11:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm pretty sure most allergies come in cycles, so you develop them and grow out of them. I'm assuming you've tripped acid plenty of times before this realization correct? And how did that affect your allergies?


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Re: Cat allergies diminished by use of LSD [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19249744 - 12/09/13 11:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm pretty sure most allergies come in cycles, so you develop them and grow out of them. I'm assuming you've tripped acid plenty of times before this realization correct? And how did that affect your allergies?



Yeah, I have had acid many times in the past before this, but not until actually tripping with a cat (playing with it & petting it) did I notice that my allergies had completely gone away.
This was a couple months ago and I've had no allergies towards cats since.


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Re: Cat allergies diminished by use of LSD [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #19253249 - 12/09/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This is an interesting theory.


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Re: Cat allergies diminished by use of LSD [Re: d0urd3n] * 1
    #19253573 - 12/10/13 01:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Ive taken a bunch o cid and I'm still allergic to cats I think ur still trippin bro


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Re: Cat allergies diminished by use of LSD [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #19253597 - 12/10/13 01:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You probably just grew out of it, it happens all the time.


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Re: Cat allergies diminished by use of LSD [or mushrooms?] [Re: gushtunkinflupped]
    #25160935 - 04/23/18 08:42 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Weil mentions that his own cat allergy disappeared after an LSD session. I believe he mentions this in his book /The Marriage of Sun and Moon/.

I'm wondering if psilocybin mushrooms could work similarly to overcome an allergy. Of course since they're organic and contain antigens, the experiment could backfire and the immune system could form an allergy to mushrooms as a result of the cat antigens being present at the same time. (Read about "danger signals" to understand why.)

Can anyone here report overcoming an allergy after a mushroom trip?  If so, what dosage was involved?  (Of course correlation does not imply causation, but it seems worth a try.)

I know a guy who is into psychedelics and who worked for Weil. He promised to ask Weil for details, after I told him that Weil hadn't responded to my request for details when I submitted it through Weil's web site.  Unfortunately he won't ask Weil until he sees him at an event in August.

BTW this guy (who knows Weil) told me that Weil also told him that his (previously exaggerated) propensity to sunburn was greatly reduced after LSD.  This makes at least some sense, a a hyper-vulnerability to sunburn is can be caused by immune dysfunction.

I can also describe my own allergy-related experience on ayahuasca. See if any of you can relate to this:  In Peru, my blanket was mildewy in ceremony.  With ayahuasca in me, I perceived the mildew as jagged spiky projections that penetrated my body.  I suppose it could indeed, at least at some scale, have had energetic protrusions, which may have penetrated some layer(s) of my aura.  I don't know the dose of ayahuasca I had, nor any way to calibrate it.

I also wonder what "inner game" I should attempt for cat-allergy treatment with psychedelics.  Some options that occur to me include:

1. My usual mindfulness based technique, as in "disappear a headache" as taught in Landmark Forum;

2. EFT-based tapping

3. stimulation of acupoints as in NAET, an allergy treatment modality that uses acupressure -- originally also discovered by accident while its discoverer was receiving an acupuncture session while holding an allergenic food

Thoughts?  Seriously I'd appreciate any speculations, as I am sure there is no real research on this. Even if Dr. Weil responds I won't consdider it as medical advice, even if I were his patient, because it'd just be based on one or a few anecdotes!


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Re: Cat allergies diminished by use of LSD [or mushrooms?] [Re: yogibike]
    #25160969 - 04/23/18 08:57 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

This some silly shit right here.  I don't see it working any better or worse with mushrooms than it does with LSD.  That is to say not at all.  Who knows though - try it out and post results?


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Re: Cat allergies diminished by use of LSD [or mushrooms?] [Re: Blend]
    #25161118 - 04/23/18 09:45 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I do not believe LSD affects histamine receptors at all.


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Re: Cat allergies diminished by use of LSD [or mushrooms?] [Re: yogibike]
    #25161144 - 04/23/18 09:53 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I'll vote for the LSD acupuncture


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Re: Cat allergies diminished by use of LSD [or mushrooms?] [Re: tdubz]
    #25161155 - 04/23/18 09:58 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

But it can reprogram the rest of your nervous system to react differently to stimulators in the environment.

I had TERRIBLE allergies to pollen when I was young. Kept me out of school a lot. After I had a good run of ten strips every week I noticed I didnt experience allergies anymore. I was 17 by the time I was a LOT less affected by allergens, and it continues to this day, but so have I. :wink:


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Re: Cat allergies diminished by use of LSD [or mushrooms?] [Re: ServantOfBaphomet]
    #25161329 - 04/23/18 11:34 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

LSD does reduce physical pain, studies have shown, but how it does so is unknown.


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Re: Cat allergies diminished by use of LSD [or mushrooms?] [Re: tdubz]
    #25161379 - 04/24/18 12:16 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

LSD permanently altered my Circadian rhythm and the hue of my turds.  I just permanently take it, and magically I fall asleep later in the day and my poop is tan in color.


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