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    #19247784 - 12/08/13 10:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I work at Wendy's in Illinois, for those in USA, and theres a few containers that everytime i look at i just want to grow some shroomys in.

the first is this salad dish we keep our..well..salads in lol. heres some pics,











Its perfect, the bottom is black and lid is clear, perfect for humidity control, once pins start to show i can just take the lid off, i think it would be a pretty neat project.

The second thing is what we put our potatoes in, tis a bit smaller,







This one is a bit more shallow. But smaller and can be stacked on top of eachother! it could make for a super miniature terarium! any opinions on these? you guys think that i should try to use these? they always looked enticing to grow shrooms in to me, but maybe i just get too bored at work.


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Re: Simple Innovation [Re: TraxSeos]
    #19247796 - 12/08/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

its too small.. if they are pp5 you could make brf cakes or wbs flour cakes and case and throw them in a sgfc.. but that sir is not a terrarium.


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Re: Simple Innovation [Re: silverstem]
    #19247801 - 12/08/13 10:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

what about a crumbled up pftek cake and some miracle grow on top of it? you think there would be no results?


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Re: Simple Innovation [Re: TraxSeos]
    #19247811 - 12/08/13 11:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

well you could do pf tek style and when fully colonized dunk then throw the dunked cake in a sgfc.. IF they are pp5 plastic. but no there is a very small chance you could take the lid off and fruit it without a proper fc.


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Re: Simple Innovation [Re: TraxSeos]
    #19247816 - 12/08/13 11:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Totally doable  but it's a little short. You'll need to use a really thin substrate. It wont be good for growing the best bulk job in the world but you can totally pull it off.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18742465#18742465

P.S.  Are the patties really square so that the meat hangs over the edge of the bun?


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Re: Simple Innovation [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19247825 - 12/08/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You can start some baby cacti in it for sure.


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Re: Simple Innovation [Re: silverstem]
    #19247828 - 12/08/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

what is pp5? and thank you! i just needed someone to have faith lol. im not going for bulk, i just wanna see if itll work, i think it would be cool. i would take pictures and show my coworkers and managers, they would get a kick out of it. and no, i dont believe thats the reason they are square, but our beef is actually always fresh, never frozen.


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Re: Simple Innovation [Re: TraxSeos]
    #19247846 - 12/08/13 11:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

PP5 is a grade of plastic that only interests us because we can use it in a pressure canner and it won't melt.


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Re: Simple Innovation [Re: TraxSeos]
    #19247858 - 12/08/13 11:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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what is pp5? and thank you! i just needed someone to have faith lol. im not going for bulk, i just wanna see if itll work, i think it would be cool. i would take pictures and show my coworkers and managers, they would get a kick out of it. and no, i dont believe thats the reason they are square, but our beef is actually always fresh, never frozen.




PP5 is a recyclable plastic used for left-over containers by Glad and Ziplock corporation.

also, Dave says the patties are square so that the meat hangs over the bun.


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Re: Simple Innovation [Re: bootster]
    #19247864 - 12/08/13 11:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

oh! i am almost positive that these are not pp5, because they melt when NEAR the grill lol, as far as heat tolerance goes, these are pussyplastic lol. i would colonize a jar and crumble it in them


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Re: Simple Innovation [Re: TraxSeos]
    #19247918 - 12/08/13 11:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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oh! i am almost positive that these are not pp5, because they melt when NEAR the grill lol, as far as heat tolerance goes, these are pussyplastic lol. i would colonize a jar and crumble it in them




I am also sure they are not pp5 so you should make a cake and pasteurize a little coco coir to spawn to.  Or you could just crumble the cake into the container (only enough to make about a 1 - 2 cm deep substrate) and then put a layer of pasteurized vermiculite on top.  That's basically what I did to make this:



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Re: Simple Innovation [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19247934 - 12/08/13 11:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

thanks for the tip man! i think im going to steal a couple of the salad trays and use pasturized verm to spawn to


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Re: Simple Innovation [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19247942 - 12/08/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I thought the patties were square because Dave Thomas didn't believe in cutting corners. :themoreyouknow:

In relation to the thread, you would probably have better luck with pans than cubes. They need less substrate depth to produce.


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Re: Simple Innovation [Re: K1ngSp4de]
    #19247967 - 12/08/13 11:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I thought the patties were square because Dave Thomas didn't believe in cutting corners. :themoreyouknow:

In relation to the thread, you would probably have better luck with pans than cubes. They need less substrate depth to produce.




In terms of ideal circumstances you're totally right but all he wants to do is a 'proof of concept.' I've fruited cubes off of tiny chunks of mad bag the size of a quarter.  They fell off when I dunked and I fruited them in an sgfc on a piece of aluminum. They didn't produce the biggest fruits but they were definitely tiny mushrooms with caps that dropped spores.

Like I said. Not the most ideal, but certainly do-able and no reason to try to do pan cyans if he's just trying to make some pictures to show his buddies.


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Re: Simple Innovation [Re: K1ngSp4de]
    #19247972 - 12/08/13 11:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

that sounds interesting, i have only grown golden teacher and B+. would the substrate be the same and what not? havent looked much into it


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Re: Simple Innovation [Re: TraxSeos]
    #19248015 - 12/08/13 11:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, they grow off the same sub.


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    #19248363 - 12/09/13 01:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The ziploc or glad brand containers I put my leftovers in the fridge in are pp5 and come in a variety of sizes.
I'd use those before something flimsy that isn't going to survive the PC or a steam bath :thumbup:

I suppose you could spawn into them and case, but to what benefit? (Other than they're free)

Not trying to shoot you down, just help you better understand the mushies :cool:


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Re: Simple Innovation [Re: PirateSwazey]
    #19248431 - 12/09/13 01:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

There are no real benefits to be achieved by casing cakes with wett verm,
birth the cakes an fruit as is..you'll see the fruits of your labor sooner that way.

Spawning to bulk on the other hand is worth the extra effort,
expanding the available nutrients/moisture for your mycelium by atleast 2x..

its good to practice proper pasteurization and substrate blends for larger projects. :thumbup:

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Re: Simple Innovation [Re: Josh.0]
    #19248496 - 12/09/13 02:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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The ziploc or glad brand containers I put my leftovers in the fridge in are pp5 and come in a variety of sizes.
I'd use those before something flimsy that isn't going to survive the PC or a steam bath :thumbup:

I suppose you could spawn into them and case, but to what benefit? (Other than they're free)

Not trying to shoot you down, just help you better understand the mushies :cool:




It's ok, you're not shooting anyone down.

To sum up. The OP has these containers that he wants to grow in to show off for his friends. He wants to know if it's possible to do.

The answer is 'yes it's totally possible'

He's not going to sterilize the salad container.
He's going to sterilize a PF jar (or grain jar I don't know) and spawn INTO the salad container. Basically it's a monotub on 1/20th the scale.  He only needs one grain jar or 1 or 2 pf jars to have enough spawn to make it work.

All he wants to do is grow some mushrooms in a salad 'to-go' container to show off to his friends (who will no doubt 'hi-five' him when he succeeds)

He's not trying to be super efficient to grow the best mushroom crop ever.

He's not trying to be super perfect about spawn ratios.

He doesn't care about dry or fresh weight.

He's not going to pressure cook a cheap salad container. He's going to spawn into it like an 'extra mini' monotub.

And when he does I will give him the hardest mental hi-five he's ever felt!

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There are no real benefits to be achieved by casing cakes with wett verm,
birth the cakes an fruit as is..you'll see the fruits of your labor sooner that way.

Spawning to bulk on the other hand is worth the extra effort,
expanding the available nutrients/moisture for your mycelium by atleast 2x..

its good to practice proper pasteurization and substrate blends for larger projects. :thumbup:

1/2pt brf spawn + 1pt H-manure/verm/gypsum
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Christ dude the guy isn't trying to make an efficient bulk grow. He's not asking about the benefits of casing with verm. All he wants to do is grow a few fruits in a little salad container to show off to his manager / coworkers.  He doesn't want to spawn to bulk (at least not on a monotub scale). He's not asking if it's better to 'fruit cakes as cakes'

He just wants some fucking fruits in a salad container to show off to his manager / co workers. If he wants to crumble a cake with a thin layer of pasteurized verm for a casing then let him.  He just wants fruits in a salad container that his job uses to serve salads in (in case you all missed that part) to show off to his coworkers.

He could easily just crumble a cake into minimal amount of 'damien style' pasteurized coir / verm or crumble a cake into a the salad container and case straight with pasteurized verm (which works fine, it's like doing a flat PF cake as I showed in the previous picture above)

Here it is again in case you missed it:



PF cakes (3 in this case (CASE get it? hahahahaha)) cased in straight verm.  This tray didn't use crumbling though, he's going to have to crumble / cheese grate the cakes to make it fit right in the container he's showing.

We're talking about a sub depth of 2 centimeters in this fruiting chamber. We're dealing with very small scale. I don't think he cares if the conditions are optimal, all he wants is a fun little project to hi-five his homies over and all of you are telling him to turn this into a bulk grow or fruit 'cakes as cakes'

He just wants a few fruits in a salad container.

Stop telling him he needs to do something different and add something constructive to help him get that 'hi-five' from his coworkers when they see a Wendy's salad container full of mushroom fruits.


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Re: Simple Innovation [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19248686 - 12/09/13 03:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I have a pp5 container about the size of the shallower one, same look black and clear. I was planning on using them for larger agar dishes once I accumulate a few.


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