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Public-health advocates pushing for graphic, cigarette-style health warnings on wine, beer and liquo
    #19246662 - 12/08/13 07:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Public-health advocates pushing for graphic, cigarette-style health warnings on wine, beer and liquor containers

Tom Blackwell | 08/12/13 | Last Updated: 08/12/13 7:08 PM ET
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Alcohol health warning labels from a presentation from EuroCare, the European Alcohol Policy Alliance.
European Alcohol Policy AllianceAlcohol health warning labels from a presentation from EuroCare, the European Alcohol Policy Alliance.

For millions of Canadians, alcohol in its various forms is one of life’s great pleasures, its appeal often enhanced by artful packaging.

It is also, according to the World Health Organization, the second biggest source of death and disease, causing accidents, violence, chronic illness, birth defects and terminal cancers.

Those alcohol labels tend to dwell on the enjoyment, while ignoring the pain, but public-health advocates in Canada and elsewhere are pushing to change that, calling for graphic, cigarette-style health warnings on wine, beer and liquor containers — or even just bottles in plain-brown wrappers.

A Nova Scotia researcher has added fuel to the movement with a strongly worded commentary just published in a medical journal, but he is not alone.

A recent editorial in the Canadian Medical Association Journal called for tobacco-like cautions on products to counter the industry’s marketing toward young people. The Canadian Public Health Association, which represents the country’s public-health doctors, has recommended at least considering the idea.

Thailand caused an international stir with its planned graphic warnings, and Australia is debating a move in the same direction. About 20 other countries, from Japan to the U.K., U.S. and France, have less-dramatic alerts on bottles. Canada has none.

“I’m not criticizing drinking behavior in general,” said Mohammed Al-hamdani, a doctoral student in organizational psychology at Halifax’s Saint Mary’s University and author of the new commentary. “What I’m trying to focus on is raising awareness of heavy drinking patterns and high-risk drinking.”

Alcohol is “deeply entrenched” within society, he noted. “You have to start with something more gentle. A warning is not invasive. It is not telling people where they can drink or when they can drink or what type of drink they can drink.”

Alcohol manufacturers, however, are opposing what they see as a temperance-style imposition on the many responsible drinkers, one they say is unlikely to have any benefit, and might even undermine health.

“I completely reject the comparison between beer and tobacco,” said Luke Harford, president of Beer Canada, the brewers’ trade group. “There are benefits to moderate consumption of beer, full stop. There are no benefits to moderate consumption of tobacco.”

Mr. Harford added that the “vast majority” of Canadians drink in a responsible manner. “There are those who don’t … and those who don’t regularly are not going to pay any attention to whatever label you put on the bottle, whether it’s grotesque or not.”

Studies have, in fact, questioned the value of small-print text messages like those required in the United States and elsewhere.

A 2006 report by Tim Stockwell of the Centre for Addictions Research of B.C., a leading authority in the field, concluded the American labels have “non-existent or minimal” effect on drinking behavior.

Responding to a Liberal MP’s 2005 private member’s bill, Spirits Canada went further, arguing drunk-driving crashes are on the decline, only a small minority of Canadians drink while behind the wheel or pregnant, and over half of pregnancies are unplanned, anyway, so cautionary labels would come too late for those women.

A federal-provincial working group failed to include warnings in its 2007 National Alcohol Strategy.

Mr. Al-hamdani admitted current labels seem largely ineffective. But that’s the point, he said: those warnings have generally lacked potency, failing to specify the exact health effects of excessive drinking, and indirectly encouraging consumption with phrases like one adopted in Argentina — “drink alcohol in moderation.”

He recommends in the Journal of  Public Health Policy that warnings be more direct, such as “excessive drinking causes liver cancer.” Labels also need to be larger and more prominently placed on bottles, and accompanied by images of diseased organs and other arresting pictures, argued Mr. Al-hamdani’s paper.

The United Kingdom’s main association of public-health professionals, the Faculty of Public Health, called for similar “no-nonsense” labels last year, while insisting “this is not the nanny state.”

Mr. Al-hamdani stresses that no measures should be taken without further research. To that end, he has received funding to conduct a study of drinkers’ reactions to dramatic labels.

Certainly, research has repeatedly indicated that cigarette-package warnings are effective at discouraging smoking, noted Norman Giesbrecht, a senior scientist at Toronto’s Centre for Addiction and Mental Health and prominent expert on alcohol policy.

“I think it’s worth exploring,” he said of putting such labels on alcohol.

Australia’s state governments came to a similar conclusion two years ago, saying governments would impose mandatory warnings if the industry did not come up with their own first.

The wine industry responded, but public-health groups complain the resulting cautions — such as “kids and alcohol don’t mix” — are too mild and unobtrusive. They favour cigarette-style alerts as part of a broader strategy against problem drinking.

Governments, meanwhile, have been backsliding on taking stronger action, terrified of being accused of nanny-statism or acting like “wowsers” — down-under slang for a fun-killing prude, lamented Michael Thorn, CEO of Australia’s Foundation for Alcohol Research and Education.

“People find [warning labels] very confronting, there is no question about that,” he said from the foundation’s offices in Canberra. “It does challenge our social norms about where alcohol fits in, it’s part in how we live our lives.”

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Re: Public-health advocates pushing for graphic, cigarette-style health warnings on wine, beer and liquo [Re: Simplepowa] * 1
    #19246673 - 12/08/13 07:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Man I don't really care, do what you want. IMO it's not really going to make a difference other than successfully trying to make the bottle art ugly!


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Re: Public-health advocates pushing for graphic, cigarette-style health warnings on wine, beer and liquo [Re: DebuteMachine]
    #19246699 - 12/08/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The people that drink enough to cause damage to their bodies really don't give two fucks about their health. These labels wont change that.


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Re: Public-health advocates pushing for graphic, cigarette-style health warnings on wine, beer and liquo [Re: Can-i-bus] * 2
    #19246790 - 12/08/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So, when is big brother going to step in and force fast food companies to put pictures of fat people on their to go bags?

Imagine having to look at this wrapped around your double cheese burger...



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Re: Public-health advocates pushing for graphic, cigarette-style health warnings on wine, beer and liquo [Re: trampis]
    #19246834 - 12/08/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Public-health advocates pushing for graphic, cigarette-style health warnings on wine, beer and liquo [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
    #19246965 - 12/08/13 08:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

its cool. im just gonna post all over the makers site of other products such as ice cream, milk, pizza, chips, etc. of stupid obese fat people with gastric-bypass surgery on their sites.  That even goes for water and gum as well. Lets post pics of all the pineal glands they corroded with all the flouride and spam em all over food products and the internet.

Lets add air onto the list too. might as well. im gonna spam the oxygen we breath with useless pictures of peoples lungs of all the damage from all the government chemicals and smog and shit we all sucked in over all these years. sounds dandy to me

the us government is pathetic.


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Re: Public-health advocates pushing for graphic, cigarette-style health warnings on wine, beer and liquo [Re: Simplepowa]
    #19247081 - 12/08/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Should post pictures of people being murdered, tortured, robbed and raped over various churches.

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Re: Public-health advocates pushing for graphic, cigarette-style health warnings on wine, beer and liquo [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #19247128 - 12/08/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

And instead of having some commercial that makes joining the military seem like an epic adventure they should show images of amputees and young adults with half their face blown off.

The few, the proud, the paraplegic.



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Re: Public-health advocates pushing for graphic, cigarette-style health warnings on wine, beer and liquo [Re: trampis]
    #19247328 - 12/08/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Public-health advocates pushing for graphic, cigarette-style health warnings on wine, beer and liquo [Re: trampis]
    #19247667 - 12/08/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

trampis said:
So, when is big brother going to step in and force fast food companies to put pictures of fat people on their to go bags?

Imagine having to look at this wrapped around your double cheese burger...






Nice post.


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Re: Public-health advocates pushing for graphic, cigarette-style health warnings on wine, beer and liquo [Re: CaptainAhab]
    #19249462 - 12/09/13 10:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

They should just outlaw certain percents

People can go to the brewery if they want to get hammered


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Re: Public-health advocates pushing for graphic, cigarette-style health warnings on wine, beer and liquo [Re: Konyap]
    #19250536 - 12/09/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Illyabo said:
They should just outlaw certain percents




Take that shit to China, prohibitions going down


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Re: Public-health advocates pushing for graphic, cigarette-style health warnings on wine, beer and liquo [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19250568 - 12/09/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Repertoire89 said:
Quote:

Illyabo said:
They should just outlaw certain percents




Take that shit to China, prohibitions going down




this is why we can't have nice things


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Re: Public-health advocates pushing for graphic, cigarette-style health warnings on wine, beer and liquo [Re: Konyap]
    #19250602 - 12/09/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Illyabo said:
Quote:

Repertoire89 said:
Quote:

Illyabo said:
They should just outlaw certain percents




Take that shit to China, prohibitions going down




this is why we can't have nice things




Because people like you want to put limitations on everyone else.


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Re: Public-health advocates pushing for graphic, cigarette-style health warnings on wine, beer and liquo [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19250898 - 12/09/13 04:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This thread is full of sarcasm but the sarcasm rings so true.


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Re: Public-health advocates pushing for graphic, cigarette-style health warnings on wine, beer and liquo [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19251101 - 12/09/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:female:

  :laser:


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Re: Public-health advocates pushing for graphic, cigarette-style health warnings on wine, beer and liquo [Re: Konyap]
    #19251109 - 12/09/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Illyabo said:
:female:

  :laser:




You got nothin son


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Re: Public-health advocates pushing for graphic, cigarette-style health warnings on wine, beer and liquo [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19251726 - 12/09/13 06:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I had to post again to say you characters gave me a real laugh, im still laughing.

i think that fast food idea is fucking gold believe it or not, and i think it would work too.

to give some background, i work in the restaurant industry. i hate fast food for what it is, but i love it for what it could become. fast healthier (significantly healthier mind you) food would be a god send.


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