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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a middle-income person today? [Re: fapjack]
    #19246258 - 12/08/13 05:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Re: Libraries, It's not because of the librarian :lol:  It's that
1. People spend the time and energy to write more than 4 pages on a particular subject
2. They Expect it to be well written enough to sell
3. They put their real name (or real enough) on it, stake their real reputation on those books
4. That is then read by a publisher who decides whether or not to spend the money to print it
5. Then it has to sell, and be adopted by major groups as a significant text
6. THEN it is adopted by a library

So yea, information found in a library is held to just a little bit higher standard than the information on the internet.

Annnnyway, Being rich doesn't guarantee that you'll get laid, but come on, it definitely makes it easier.

Tbh I'm reading this question as: Act out all of your fantasies, but in the 60s; or, get to jerk off to internet porn. What can you really do with todays technology now that you couldn't do then?


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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a middle-income person today? [Re: fapjack]
    #19246268 - 12/08/13 05:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe not, but I could build a sweet commune at 1960's dollars before rampant inflation. A hippie field of dreams, if you build it they will come. And so might I, giggity


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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a well-off person today? [Re: Moorning Due]
    #19246286 - 12/08/13 05:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Either way you'll end up dead in the end. I don't think dieing with the most stuff makes you win. What would make you happy? I guess my raw preference would be to do either outside of the USA. In the 60's pot was still a felony and passing one in a circle could get everyone their own 10 year stint for "distribution". Of course that never matters outside  of a small circle of friends.



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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a well-off person today? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #19246332 - 12/08/13 05:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Who said anything about taking it with me, its all about a high standard, and hippie whisker biscuit


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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a well-off person today? [Re: myc_check1212]
    #19246342 - 12/08/13 05:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

High standard for a poop flinging chimp. We're still just worm food in the end.

Success is just a prison for the prisoners and blood is the language we're written in.

Sweat and saliva are slippery and so are we.

So dance and dance dance dance because we love you.

In the river flow of life, crushed into a body.

The gentle soul is crushed into a body.

The heavens are horrified and yet we just tremble with desires.


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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a well-off person today? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #19246369 - 12/08/13 06:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Being rich in the 60's would just put you about 50 years older and that much closer to death in the here and now. I'm gonna go with middle class.


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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a well-off person today? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #19246373 - 12/08/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Magic missile, not poo


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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a middle-income person today? [Re: Lynnch]
    #19246507 - 12/08/13 06:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Lynnch said:
Re: Libraries, It's not because of the librarian :lol:  It's that
1. People spend the time and energy to write more than 4 pages on a particular subject
2. They Expect it to be well written enough to sell
3. They put their real name (or real enough) on it, stake their real reputation on those books
4. That is then read by a publisher who decides whether or not to spend the money to print it
5. Then it has to sell, and be adopted by major groups as a significant text
6. THEN it is adopted by a library

So yea, information found in a library is held to just a little bit higher standard than the information on the internet.

Annnnyway, Being rich doesn't guarantee that you'll get laid, but come on, it definitely makes it easier.

Tbh I'm reading this question as: Act out all of your fantasies, but in the 60s; or, get to jerk off to internet porn. What can you really do with todays technology now that you couldn't do then?



Most of the books in a library can be found on the internet now, and if they can't you can get someone to scan it for you.  That doesn't even include all the other shit that isn't in a library.


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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a middle-income person today? [Re: fapjack]
    #19246517 - 12/08/13 06:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

fapjack said:
Quote:

Lynnch said:
Re: Libraries, It's not because of the librarian :lol:  It's that
1. People spend the time and energy to write more than 4 pages on a particular subject
2. They Expect it to be well written enough to sell
3. They put their real name (or real enough) on it, stake their real reputation on those books
4. That is then read by a publisher who decides whether or not to spend the money to print it
5. Then it has to sell, and be adopted by major groups as a significant text
6. THEN it is adopted by a library

So yea, information found in a library is held to just a little bit higher standard than the information on the internet.

Annnnyway, Being rich doesn't guarantee that you'll get laid, but come on, it definitely makes it easier.

Tbh I'm reading this question as: Act out all of your fantasies, but in the 60s; or, get to jerk off to internet porn. What can you really do with todays technology now that you couldn't do then?



Most of the books in a library can be found on the internet now, and if they can't you can get someone to scan it for you.  That doesn't even include all the other shit that isn't in a library.



Wrong. Totally, 100% wrong.

Let's just stay On-Topic.


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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a middle-income person today? [Re: fapjack]
    #19246584 - 12/08/13 06:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

fapjack said:
Most of the books in a library can be found on the internet now, and if they can't you can get someone to scan it for you.  That doesn't even include all the other shit that isn't in a library.



Okay, whatever. So then can we agree it's a push?
So you have access to information, big whoop. Have fun reading wikipedia while I'm banging models on my sailboat in the bahamas (yes, they had models, sailboats, and the bahamas in the 60s)


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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a middle-income person today? [Re: Lynnch]
    #19246767 - 12/08/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hope you enjoyed it, cause you died of heart failure while banging a prostitute 15 years ago.


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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a middle-income person today? [Re: fapjack]
    #19246797 - 12/08/13 07:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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fapjack said:
Hope you enjoyed it, cause you died of heart failure while banging a prostitute 15 years ago.



Why do you value being alive right now over being alive in the 60s or a thousand years ago or a thousand years from now? Its a small blip on a timeline no matter where that blip is. I see no value in life now or 10,000 years ago as any different. A length on a timeline is a length on a timeline, a very finite part of the infinate so why do you value one length on it over another length on it? Very serious question here so don't write it off.


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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a middle-income person today? [Re: fapjack]
    #19246857 - 12/08/13 07:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Hope you enjoyed it, cause you died of heart failure while banging a prostitute 15 years ago.



Just the way I want to go out :lol:

But fair enough, medical technology would make a difference, sure.


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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a middle-income person today? [Re: fapjack]
    #19248476 - 12/09/13 02:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

fapjack said:
Quote:

Lynnch said:
Re: Libraries, It's not because of the librarian :lol:  It's that
1. People spend the time and energy to write more than 4 pages on a particular subject
2. They Expect it to be well written enough to sell
3. They put their real name (or real enough) on it, stake their real reputation on those books
4. That is then read by a publisher who decides whether or not to spend the money to print it
5. Then it has to sell, and be adopted by major groups as a significant text
6. THEN it is adopted by a library

So yea, information found in a library is held to just a little bit higher standard than the information on the internet.

Annnnyway, Being rich doesn't guarantee that you'll get laid, but come on, it definitely makes it easier.

Tbh I'm reading this question as: Act out all of your fantasies, but in the 60s; or, get to jerk off to internet porn. What can you really do with todays technology now that you couldn't do then?



Most of the books in a library can be found on the internet now, and if they can't you can get someone to scan it for you.  That doesn't even include all the other shit that isn't in a library.




Most books? No they can't. If they could then every single student would be able to torrent their school textbooks online for free. Every university student has attempted this I guarantee you that. Those things are expensive, you know. If textbooks could be found online for free then the university textbook industry would have gone bankrupt ages ago.

Maybe every now and then you will get lucky and be able to find in a scanned copy on Google Books or Amazon. You still have to PAY to read the full copy, essentially not making it any more effective than a library.

You can find for example, previews of books written by say, Winifred Woodhull or Amanda Lotz or Robert Dahl on Google Books, but you only get about a 10 page preview and you have to pay for the whole book. (The closest that I got on Dahl was a 37 page preview from a 200+ page book: http://yalepress.yale.edu/yupbooks/pdf/0300092180.pdf )

But notice how the only place you can find these texts online are from the UNIVERSITY libraries. Most of these books you need an ID and passcode to read. The others are found on their online library section, meaning they are all from the library, and select a handful of books to publish publicly. You are essentially viewing their online library selection, which is nowhere near the selection that they have in-person at the actual library facility.

Additionally, since people only bother to scan in NEW books, it would be very difficult to find an academic book that was written earlier than the 1990's, unless it was a particularly famous book.

Other things that are not on the internet are university peer-review journals written by graduate students.

Of all the textbooks that I studied, the only thing that I have successfully been able to find FOR FREE was a complete copy of all of Karl Marx's works. That's it.


Edited by Crystal G (12/09/13 02:31 AM)


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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a middle-income person today? [Re: Lynnch]
    #19248502 - 12/09/13 02:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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What can you really do with todays technology now that you couldn't do then?



I that a fucking joke or something?

There are literally millions of things you can do now than you couldn't back then thanks to technology...

For one the answer to nearly every question you could have is just a few clicks away...


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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a middle-income person today? [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19248520 - 12/09/13 02:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

GPS, animal cloning, artificial insemination, internet, high-resolution digital photography, sonograms, machine-operated surgery, more complex radars, MP3 players and DVDs instead of cassettes and VHS, Photoshop, solar energy, wind turbines, electric cars, X Box, a million new pharmaceuticals just to name a few...


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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a middle-income person today? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19249063 - 12/09/13 07:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
Quote:

fapjack said:
Quote:

Lynnch said:
Re: Libraries, It's not because of the librarian :lol:  It's that
1. People spend the time and energy to write more than 4 pages on a particular subject
2. They Expect it to be well written enough to sell
3. They put their real name (or real enough) on it, stake their real reputation on those books
4. That is then read by a publisher who decides whether or not to spend the money to print it
5. Then it has to sell, and be adopted by major groups as a significant text
6. THEN it is adopted by a library

So yea, information found in a library is held to just a little bit higher standard than the information on the internet.

Annnnyway, Being rich doesn't guarantee that you'll get laid, but come on, it definitely makes it easier.

Tbh I'm reading this question as: Act out all of your fantasies, but in the 60s; or, get to jerk off to internet porn. What can you really do with todays technology now that you couldn't do then?



Most of the books in a library can be found on the internet now, and if they can't you can get someone to scan it for you.  That doesn't even include all the other shit that isn't in a library.




Most books? No they can't. If they could then every single student would be able to torrent their school textbooks online for free. Every university student has attempted this I guarantee you that. Those things are expensive, you know. If textbooks could be found online for free then the university textbook industry would have gone bankrupt ages ago.

Maybe every now and then you will get lucky and be able to find in a scanned copy on Google Books or Amazon. You still have to PAY to read the full copy, essentially not making it any more effective than a library.

You can find for example, previews of books written by say, Winifred Woodhull or Amanda Lotz or Robert Dahl on Google Books, but you only get about a 10 page preview and you have to pay for the whole book. (The closest that I got on Dahl was a 37 page preview from a 200+ page book: http://yalepress.yale.edu/yupbooks/pdf/0300092180.pdf )

But notice how the only place you can find these texts online are from the UNIVERSITY libraries. Most of these books you need an ID and passcode to read. The others are found on their online library section, meaning they are all from the library, and select a handful of books to publish publicly. You are essentially viewing their online library selection, which is nowhere near the selection that they have in-person at the actual library facility.

Additionally, since people only bother to scan in NEW books, it would be very difficult to find an academic book that was written earlier than the 1990's, unless it was a particularly famous book.

Other things that are not on the internet are university peer-review journals written by graduate students.

Of all the textbooks that I studied, the only thing that I have successfully been able to find FOR FREE was a complete copy of all of Karl Marx's works. That's it.



But everything you've read you yourself had the ability to upload, as does anyone else reading anything.  Its really not that hard, and just because you didn't find it online doesn't mean it doesn't exist.  Also, just because specific writings of people aren't online doesn't mean the same information can't be found elsewhere.


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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a middle-income person today? [Re: fapjack]
    #19251364 - 12/09/13 05:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The Internet is like 99% copy and paste jobs from one source with a bunch of sketchy bullshit websites with a bunch of fucking ads. Any dipshit with a computer can post any shit he wants. Books have to be published. And books that are out of print are rarely available online but can often be found a good big city library. And the misinformation and misdirection on the Internet makes it less valuable by the month. It's just a big convoluted clusterfuck. All the real knowledge is still on paper.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a middle-income person today? [Re: fapjack]
    #19251447 - 12/09/13 05:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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But everything you've read you yourself had the ability to upload




...So? This doesn't mean people go through the tiresome and redundant task of scanning in thousands and thousands of pages from every single book to upload.

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Its really not that hard, and just because you didn't find it online doesn't mean it doesn't exist.




But what's the point, if it's that difficult to find online then it doesn't make it any more accessible or easier to find than in a library.

The argument was over whether a library or the internet has more information. Currently, TO DATE, the internet is lacking in many many things that are available in the library.


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    #19252655 - 12/09/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

There is probably over a trillion gigs of data on the internet, library of congress has less than 500,000 gigs.  I don't even understand what you are trying to say.


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