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nomadbrad
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Bluing Mycena?
#19246537 - 12/08/13 06:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I found these a couple months back but never looked into them much. Any ideas? I didn't get many pictures or good ones for that matter....thanks!
Habitat: found on a dead hardwood log.
Everything else you can see in the photo. There was obvious bluing of some sort.
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Mycena subcaerulea maybe?
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Re: Bluing Mycena? [Re: Duggstar]
#19247539 - 12/08/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not west of the Rockies. You could compare Mycena amicta.
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Re: Bluing Mycena? [Re: Gravija]
#19247865 - 12/08/13 11:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Neat. I've never seen bluing on the gills of my subcaerulea. That's a nice touch, cause I always thought most of the blue was in the pellicle.
Also Brad, do you recall if it was hardwood or conifer?
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Mycena amicta would also be my thought
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Joust said: Mycena amicta
Sounds reasonable according to species description.
Pellicle present?
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nomadbrad
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The log was for sure hardwood. According to the description, these would be massive sized amicta. The caps are around the 4.5-6 cm range, the description says 1-1.5 cm. maybe it was a good year for amicta
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Gravija
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I don't think they look like amicta myself, but I don't know what else to suggest. Did you keep em?
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If it was surely hardwood and they were the size you describe it is less likely to be M. amicta. If you kept material I suggest you get it scoped.
Might the blue-green stain not belong to the mushroom and perhaps be due to some external disturbance? I guess that isn't absolutely impossible. Did you see any more discoloration than the obvious one in the first picture?
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Anglerfish said: If it was surely hardwood and they were the size you describe it is less likely to be M. amicta. If you kept material I suggest you get it scoped.
Might the blue-green stain not belong to the mushroom and perhaps be due to some external disturbance? I guess that isn't absolutely impossible. Did you see any more discoloration than the obvious one in the first picture?
I have been noticing bluish, purplish and greenish tinting in the whitish parts of mushrooms over the last few days, mushrooms that usually dont exhibit this coloration.... i am speculating it has something to do with the extended cold snap here... yet I have also been noticing a surging of this bluish colored fungus that has been covering the bark of trees.... much more than usual, and no, its not a lichen.. But, I have yet to ID it also... going to try to get some good macro shots of it soon for an ID request.
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well to be honest thats not blue to me at all, its green, and i thought you were making a joke at first, I was thinking it was your camera, but that fact that you see it in person means its not that, The M. amitca i find out here is very thin, long, and has a blueish cap fading to brownish.
Micro would be sweet!
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Re: Bluing Mycena? [Re: Joust]
#19250265 - 12/09/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I saw these things in person and the color was close to Aquamarine. The discoloration was very conspicuous and it covered most of the gills and the margins on most of these mycenas. I've never seen anything like it. They also had a reddish hue and maybe even a red gill edge on the mature fruits.
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I don't think it looks like M. amicta, hope you saved it!
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Crikey! The world of Mycena is surely complex, if it isn't any of the suggested species it might be something rare or even undescribed?
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I think I remember brad saying that they bleed red juice on his hand when he accidentally broke one of the stems.
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Yeah, I don't really think this is either subcaerulea or amicta. The bluing on the gills and nit on the pellicle is certainly atypical of subcaerulea, but I can't speak for amicta. The pileus margin also looks quite diffferent. Reminds me of M. Haematopus, but what's with the bruising?
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maynardjameskeenan said: I think I remember brad saying that they bleed red juice on his hand when he accidentally broke one of the stems.
Oh, I didn't see this at first. That makes me think its some weird haematopus. Is there any chance these could've seen some lawn chemicals? They might be spraying some 2-4-d about this time.
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Good call! You can see red exudate on his palm in the picture. That coupled with the appendiculate margin and concolorous gills means haematopus. No idea what the blue stuff is, perhaps another fungi.
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Re: Bluing Mycena? [Re: Gravija]
#19250384 - 12/09/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's kinda the weird thing, they got 'bluer' over time. When I saw them which was a day or so later, almost all the gills and margins had turned that funky color, I would think that would rule out the possibility of lawn chemicals.
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maynardjameskeenan said: That's kinda the weird thing, they got 'bluer' over time. When I saw them which was a day or so later, almost all the gills and margins had turned that funky color, I would think that would rule out the possibility of lawn chemicals. 
The blue-green stains initially took away all my thoughts of this being something like M. haematopus, yet when overlooking that single feature everything else seems rather congruent with this particular bleeding species. Seeing from the description it should stain "purplish" on both cap surface and gills - but it doesn't look purplish at all to my eyes.
Perhaps I could try to post these pictures on the Norwegian myco-forum and get some expert opinion from Arne Aronsen who is deep into the genus.
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