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blackglass6219
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Expanding mushroom cultivation to gourmet and medicinal (Reishi)
#19246236 - 12/08/13 05:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've been learning all about mushrooms and their cultivation the past few months, successfully harvested a few mono-tubs of cubes, and now I'm looking to try my hand at edibles. Specifically Reishi for their medicinal (and monetary) value. I just have a few questions before I jump into it. I'm planning to use filter patch bags with sawdust, woodchips, wheatbran, and gypsum.
Do the types of sawdust and woodchips used matter? Between conks and antlers, which would usually give the best yield?
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Re: Expanding mushroom cultivation to gourmet and medicinal (Reishi) [Re: blackglass6219]
#19246372 - 12/08/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Reishi woohoo You are going to want to use hardwood types of trees for your chips / dust, as for antlers vs conks, I'm not sure. Hopefully someone can help you on that, I'm waiting for 'pins' on my 2 bags of reishi.
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Re: Expanding mushroom cultivation to gourmet and medicinal (Reishi) [Re: fatchillin]
#19247104 - 12/08/13 08:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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IMO, the more air you can get to them, the more fruit mass you will get. Even if you don't quite get conks (it may be difficult in bags) you can at least get weird blobs, which are a lot more massive than antlers. So I'd go for more air.
Just my opinion though 
So you're going to be supplementing and completely sterilizing the bags?
I'm currently running a side-by-side trial to see if/how much supplementation actually helps reishi. Of course it's only a couple bags, but it will be interesting to see.
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Re: Expanding mushroom cultivation to gourmet and medicinal (Reishi) [Re: Forrester]
#19247720 - 12/08/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can you grow with just sawdust/woodchips and nothing else? I'm not really sure how I would fruit them in a high humidity environment. I was thinking of making a martha.
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Re: Expanding mushroom cultivation to gourmet and medicinal (Reishi) [Re: blackglass6219]
#19247844 - 12/08/13 11:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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blackglass6219 said: Can you grow with just sawdust/woodchips and nothing else? I'm not really sure how I would fruit them in a high humidity environment. I was thinking of making a martha.
Yeah, you can. I grow them on fuel pellets/gypsum alone.
You said you did monotubs before. Making a martha? Why?
Just do reishi monotubs.
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Re: Expanding mushroom cultivation to gourmet and medicinal (Reishi) [Re: blackglass6219]
#19248043 - 12/08/13 11:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Reishi/GD 2 parts sawdust 1 part wood chips 20% wheat bran by total volume Up to 10% Gypsum
The higher the spore load, the more the medicinal properties. IE- not conks. I've got heavy colonizer/producing reishi LC, plates, grain if u want to trade...
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Re: Expanding mushroom cultivation to gourmet and medicinal (Reishi) [Re: blackglass6219]
#19248578 - 12/09/13 02:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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hi,
for your substrate use the cheapest possible source of cellulose like the sawdust etc but only if you can get it cheap. Other possibilities include straw (wheat, rice etc), sugarcane waste, wood chips etc.
sawdust size and type does matter - preferably use hardwoods, pine can be used but under specific conditions only. Preferably a 10mm size particle, this gives a good air-filled porosity.
Conks IMO give a higher yield and produce spores which are valuable (some customers refuse to buy conks without spores).
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Re: Expanding mushroom cultivation to gourmet and medicinal (Reishi) [Re: solumvita]
#19250765 - 12/09/13 03:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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One of the local universities did an extensive study on reishi and benefits for lung cancer treatment. I Know the dean of sciences and the plant physiologist at the university (everytime I walk into their labs I pop a load over their equipment ;-p). When I asked where they were getting their reishis (I wanted to donate mine), they said from a company in china that gave an exact spore load percentage (neither they nor I know how they can measure it; anyone know?). They said conks had a lower spore load (which I'm now questioning based on the last posts comment-TC tag makes me wonder if the Dean was incorrect). I'm going to shoot an email to them and get their findings they released. I'll add a link when I get it for anyone's interest.
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Re: Expanding mushroom cultivation to gourmet and medicinal (Reishi) [Re: Wrath]
#19253023 - 12/09/13 10:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wrath said: They said conks had a lower spore load (which I'm now questioning based on the last posts comment-TC tag makes me wonder if the Dean was incorrect). I'm going to shoot an email to them and get their findings they released. I'll add a link when I get it for anyone's interest.
Yeah antlers don't spore at all since they never develop a pore surface, so that statement is a little strange.
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Re: Expanding mushroom cultivation to gourmet and medicinal (Reishi) [Re: Forrester]
#19253048 - 12/09/13 10:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Maybe they meant their specific source had a culture that produced a lower spore load than other cultures?
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