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[Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items!
    #19245677 - 12/08/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)




Well, long story short, I picked up my first (and last) mushroom growing kit from a local smoke shop. The reasoning behind my posting is because it was terribly packaged, and nothing (yes nothing whatsoever) was labeled. Nor did it come with a tek. If I had to bet on it, I'd say it resembles a fifth graders science project, give or take. lol.


If anyone could kindly point out what the two bags of brown-ish soil?? bags are, thatd be great! also, what the seeds are. I picked up some brown rice flour (I didnt see it nessessary to post a picture of that), and if an expert or well-knowledgeable user could tell me - is this all that is needed to start making cakes? (with the BRF aswell of course). And if it is, could someone link me to a recommened tek in respect to the equipment/materials I am posting pictures of?


Thanks. Pics are above because im posting from my phone sorry for my noob-ish-ness. <3


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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: mdmazingx]
    #19245694 - 12/08/13 03:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I would honestly try to return that and start researching the PF tek. That kit looks :girlofdisapproval:

edit: how much was it I am curious. Did it come with jars?


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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: d0urd3n]
    #19245716 - 12/08/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That kit looks pretty bogus to me. How much did you pay for it?


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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: d0urd3n]
    #19245740 - 12/08/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:whathesaid:
Pic #3 looks like a petri dish
Pic #7 looks like rye grass seed and a plastic inoculation loop, don't know why it came with that since it came with a spore syringe. And alcohol will not sterilize the loop.
Pic # 1,2,5,6 looks to by best guess some kind of really dry manure

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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: SuperFly]
    #19245774 - 12/08/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The syringes you could use (if they are any good) Try the PF Tek. It's pretty easy to do


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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: SuperFly]
    #19245781 - 12/08/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well, disgustigly, it cost $100. Manure? God damn. I was hopeing it was Vermiculate (or however its spelled).

So, there is absolutely no way for me to start cakes if I manage to get 1/2 pint jars with this "dry manure" + seeds + brown rice flour? :/


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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: SuperFly]
    #19245793 - 12/08/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Whoa - a petri dish?  I wear glasses, but the second pic from the right looks like dirt weed!  But the petri dish kind of leaves me in wonder(?) - without a PC, laminar flow hood or SAB; a petri dish is pretty useless.

I'm assuming this "kit" didn't even come pre-sterilized?


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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: mycomattie]
    #19245813 - 12/08/13 04:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

For those curious, it came from MaryJanes Smoke shop in Nova Scotia, Canada. I hope nobody else ever purchases this. Best part? I even had to pay upfront and wait for the order to arrive. FML.

edit: ALSO! The owner of the shop was claiming it was normally a $200 kit (ROFL) and he said for a limited time its 50% off (hense the reasoning as to why I even bothered to purchase it). The spore syringes didnt come with the kit, I forgot to mention that. I actually ordered those myself.


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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: mycomattie]
    #19245853 - 12/08/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Damn, you got robbed! I would get some verm for like 5 or 6 bucks, canning jars for like $12 and PF Tek it! The guy at the store took your money, bought crack with it, then when you kept asking when its arriving he threw that shit together from shit he had laying around, and gave it to you, Bummer!


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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: mdmazingx]
    #19245877 - 12/08/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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mdmazingx said:
For those curious, it came from MaryJanes Smoke shop in Nova Scotia, Canada. I hope nobody else ever purchases this. Best part? I even had to pay upfront and wait for the order to arrive. FML.

edit: ALSO! The owner of the shop was claiming it was normally a $200 kit (ROFL) and he said for a limited time its 50% off (hense the reasoning as to why I even bothered to purchase it). The spore syringes didnt come with the kit, I forgot to mention that. I actually ordered those myself.




Well, if it didn't come pre-sterilized - which I honestly believe is the main reason why many buy kits - that sucks!  Considering you could purchase the contents of the kit, PLUS a PC for $100 (or not much more).


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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: Hashbuble]
    #19245896 - 12/08/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Damn, you got robbed! I would get some verm for like 5 or 6 bucks, canning jars for like $12 and PF Tek it! The guy at the store took your money, bought crack with it, then when you kept asking when its arriving he threw that shit together from shit he had laying around, and gave it to you, Bummer!




I am planning on purchasing 1/2 pint jars tomorrow, as they're quite cheap locally. Aswell as verm. For the PF tek, all thats needed to start the cake process is:
-Brown rice flour
-Verm
-1/2 pint jars
-Sterile water
-Sterile spore syringe
-Pressure Cooker
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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: mdmazingx]
    #19245919 - 12/08/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You don't need a PC for pftek.

The PC would be the most expensive thing on that list


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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: SuperFly]
    #19245941 - 12/08/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Use spring water not tap or distilled


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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: mdmazingx]
    #19245987 - 12/08/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I am planning on purchasing 1/2 pint jars tomorrow, as they're quite cheap locally. Aswell as verm. For the PF tek, all thats needed to start the cake process is:
-Brown rice flour
-Verm
-1/2 pint jars
-Sterile water
-Sterile spore syringe
-Pressure Cooker BIG POT
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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: Hashbuble]
    #19245988 - 12/08/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Sorry for all of this "newbie" shit, but I have two last questions, thanks again guys and gals for your advice and information.

1) If I were to do the PF tek, with lets say... 30 Cakes...(and lets say all of these came out fine and not contaminated).. How long from day 1 (being the day I made the cakes) would it take on average for mushrooms to start growing and producing yields? (how long from the first day the cakes are put aside for colonization -> to the day the cakes are placed in a container for production of shrooms and produce first yield?)

Sorry if that makes no sense.

2) With approx 30 cakes within approx 5 containers (6 cakes per container) what would be an expected yield for flush #1? I know it varies greatly, but if you had to estimate, what would you say?


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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: PussyFart]
    #19245994 - 12/08/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Notahacker420 said:
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mdmazingx said:
I am planning on purchasing 1/2 pint jars tomorrow, as they're quite cheap locally. Aswell as verm. For the PF tek, all thats needed to start the cake process is:
-Brown rice flour
-Verm
-1/2 pint jars
-Sterile water
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-Pressure Cooker BIG POT
- Source of flame.
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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: mdmazingx]
    #19246010 - 12/08/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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1) If I were to do the PF tek, with lets say... 30 Cakes...(and lets say all of these came out fine and not contaminated).. How long from day 1 (being the day I made the cakes) would it take on average for mushrooms to start growing and producing yields?



No one can estimate this, there are just too many variables....

Spores can take up to 3 weeks to germinate and show signs of growth, then maybe 2-4 more weeks for the jars to colonize fully, then another week for consolidation, then you birth dunk and rool and wait possibly 1-2 more weeks to see pins....from there it takes a week or less for the pins to mature.

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2) With approx 30 cakes within approx 5 containers (6 cakes per container) what would be an expected yield for flush #1? I know it varies greatly, but if you had to estimate, what would you say?



Anywhere from 0.1 to 5 grams per cake per flush.....


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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: SuperFly]
    #19246708 - 12/08/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You don't need a PC for pftek.

The PC would be the most expensive thing on that list




True - but for $100, why not?  You can definitely buy a PC and the required accessories for $100; even less in some cases.  I found a lightly used 23q Presto for $30; and worst case scenario - $70 for the same PC from Amazon.

In the case of this kit - why are petri's included?  Agar absolutely requires a PC.

In fact, many of the pics posted by the OP of the "kit" require a PC.


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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: mycomattie]
    #19246845 - 12/08/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

There's no way you can return it? What a dick. Time for the flaming bag of poo tek!

Anyway, click the link in my sig to download the Let's Grow Mushrooms vids. It's like $9 US and probably the best goddamn growing tool you'll ever get. Worth every cent.

Watch the first one, get yourself some Home Depot and Bed Bath and Beyond coupons, and get the stuff RogerRabbit says to get, then do exactly what he says to do. It'll work, I promise.:grin::thumbup:

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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: mdmazingx]
    #19246893 - 12/08/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Oh, I also wrote this once. That stuff too.:wink:

Good luck.:amanita2:


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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: mycomattie]
    #19246907 - 12/08/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Just letting him know he doesn't need it for what he is trying to accomplish.
After throwing down 100$ for a dissatisfying kit (sorry op) I sure as hell wouldn't want to bust out another hundred.

But if he does decide to get serious, and get into grains and agar then sure why not get a PC. It will be necessary with time!


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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: SuperFly]
    #19247542 - 12/08/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:whathesaid:

Totally. There's no sense in getting a PC for your first grow. A water bath canner (essentially a very large pot with a rack designed to hold canning jars) is perfectly fine. A PC will end up being a very expensive paper weight for someone who did one grow and decided the hobby wasn't for them.:wink:


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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #19250515 - 12/09/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

^^ thanks those videos helped.

I ended up scoring 36 1/2 (250ml) pint wide mouth canning jars for $10.00 CAD & a 50-ish quart bag of verm for $22.00 CAD, aswell as a 5-lb bag of BRF for $6.00 CAD.

I think now I have what's nessessary, however, im not going to be using a PC for this first run. I'm planning on making 36 cakes, and having multiple tubs going, for a decent yield (I hope)


Instead of PC im using a very large "lobster pot". I can fit approx 12 jars sidr by side in this, elevated of course.


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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: mdmazingx]
    #19250563 - 12/09/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Definitely not worth $100, but if that is, in fact, manure... which looks like it has straw mixed into it, it could be a good substrate, and if you have a PC, all of this stuff is usable. I'm not sure if you're interested in using agar, but if you are, you can use those petri dishes to isolate a strain... If I were you, I'd make some WBS jars or Rye Grain jars (Look for teks on here, it is very simple) and get some spawn started... You can spawn to that manure and get some very nice boombers!

Those spore syringes look very dark, you are lucky for that. I recently received some very light syringes, with only a few specs of spores in them, but they also worked. Best of luck man... just read up on how to use what you have. The round disks-like containers are petri dishes, the grain appears to be Rye, and it appears you have some sort of compost or manure, for a bulk substrate. All useable stuff.


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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: SuperFly]
    #19250778 - 12/09/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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TheMrMACdaddy said:
Just letting him know he doesn't need it for what he is trying to accomplish.
After throwing down 100$ for a dissatisfying kit (sorry op) I sure as hell wouldn't want to bust out another hundred.

But if he does decide to get serious, and get into grains and agar then sure why not get a PC. It will be necessary with time!





truth, syringe, pc, and some grains. boom all of a sudden youre doing bulk/agar work/sterilizing equipment , for about 100-120bux

could be even cheaper if you find pc on craigslist or thrifstores etc


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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: twistedty]
    #19251331 - 12/09/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You can always spawn a few cakes to the manure too! Just make sure you properly pasteurize first. I've read people getting nice yields off of doing that.

Also great deal on the 1/2 pint jars.


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    #19252046 - 12/09/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If you really wanna do it cheap and easy... I'll tell you how I did it when I was a 17 year old kid who just wanted some boomers!... You can buy a premade brf bag that is pasteurized and everything from one of the sponsors... inject the spores, put in a warm dark place.. leave it for a few weeks, til it fully colonizes... give it some good light and BOOM! you're rollin... no hassle, no worries... set and forget... simple as pie, and very cheap...

What you have purchased is more... raw ingredients for a knowledgeable person to play with... but you can certainly become knowledgeable about what you're playing with by reading on this website.. I have found the most efficient way for me to search these forums is to go to google, type in my search, and then put 'shroomery' at the end... it works better than the search here... for me, anyway.. lol


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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: mdmazingx]
    #19252111 - 12/09/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Well, long story short, I picked up my first (and last) mushroom growing kit from a local smoke shop. The reasoning behind my posting is because it was terribly packaged, and nothing (yes nothing whatsoever) was labeled. Nor did it come with a tek. If I had to bet on it, I'd say it resembles a fifth graders science project, give or take. lol.


If anyone could kindly point out what the two bags of brown-ish soil?? bags are, thatd be great! also, what the seeds are. I picked up some brown rice flour (I didnt see it nessessary to post a picture of that), and if an expert or well-knowledgeable user could tell me - is this all that is needed to start making cakes? (with the BRF aswell of course). And if it is, could someone link me to a recommened tek in respect to the equipment/materials I am posting pictures of?


Thanks. Pics are above because im posting from my phone sorry for my noob-ish-ness. <3




is the clothespin part of the kit?


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    #19252331 - 12/09/13 08:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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is the clothespin part of the kit?




I think it was used to "gauge" the size of the petri dish?


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Re: [Noob Here] Just bought a growing kit, need identification help for various items! [Re: mycomattie]
    #19252412 - 12/09/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That kit is one big fart. You'd do better, and learn more on your own. As  most stated: PF Tek; the most expensive item is your time.


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    #19253201 - 12/09/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I would not trust anything from that fucked up ass kit. Don't use that manure, fuck that shit, get some shit, where U know where that shit came from


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    #19253232 - 12/09/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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    #19254352 - 12/10/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Dang!  I'm a noob and even I know you totally got ripped off.  Without counting my spore syringes,  I spent under $40 for everything. Plastic totes were more expensive than the jars.


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    #21400647 - 03/13/15 02:05 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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