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Re: My friends asked me to make them brownies [Re: Brubbles]
    #19253732 - 12/10/13 02:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Holy shit people, you're not magically making this THC better, and ingesting it is much less effective than eating it.

If you're doing this you're losing cash, do not put smokeable bud in fucking edibles. And if you're getting it cheap enough where the price of flower is low, get fucking clippings.

If you're a pot head and smoking a half gram won't do. Eating it sure as shit isn't

edit - much less effective than burning/vaping*




You are incorrect. Eating cannabis results in your liver metabolizing the plant differently, converting Δ9-THC to 11-Hydroxy-Δ9-THC which produces a much more psychedelic (in most individuals) experience. The two experiences are quite different.




That is a very interesting fact. Thank you for sharing.

I just want to add: I've made lots of weed edibles and I enjoy them very much. I like to make them strong. I don't want to eat a bunch of butter and sugar to get high, so I go for cookies strong enough to get me blasted by only eating one.

I don't have a high tolerance like some dabbers do. I don't even smoke much to be honest, but I know that certain members don't know what the fuck they're talking about if they say that edibles are less potent than smoking or vaping. That's just not true at all.

If you made a cookie out of your normal dose of smoked weed, that cookie would be about twice as strong, and the high would last about twice as long. Those numbers are a ballpark and it varies from person to person, of course.


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Re: My friends asked me to make them brownies [Re: healing]
    #19254273 - 12/10/13 08:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I get about 96 doses of edibles from a half ounce of sugar leaf. Not knock you on your ass doses, but good solid doses that are a bit strong for some people, but just right for me.


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Re: My friends asked me to make them brownies [Re: healing]
    #19254617 - 12/10/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I lol'd

The high is not getting better, it's changing, not getting better

http://www.evaluationtoday.com/news_medicating_with_marijuana.html

And it's less effective. Take your body buzz somewhere else.

"more psychedelic" lol


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Re: My friends asked me to make them brownies [Re: Juicin]
    #19256359 - 12/10/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I lol'd

The high is not getting better, it's changing, not getting better

http://www.evaluationtoday.com/news_medicating_with_marijuana.html

And it's less effective. Take your body buzz somewhere else.

"more psychedelic" lol




You're quoting a website that uses the phrase "cannabis with a higher TCH content"

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Re: My friends asked me to make them brownies [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #19256417 - 12/10/13 05:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

it was also the first link on google........it's common knowledge


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Re: My friends asked me to make them brownies [Re: Juicin] * 1
    #19256922 - 12/10/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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it was also the first link on google........it's common knowledge




It's also common knowledge that weed is a dangerous drug that should remain illegal. Common knowledge is just that, common, nothing more.


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Re: My friends asked me to make them brownies [Re: healing]
    #19256967 - 12/10/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

? Well if this were 1990 i'd agree........But I have a link for that too

http://www.gallup.com/poll/165539/first-time-americans-favor-legalizing-marijuana.aspx

And I was referring to people who use cannabis not the public at large. You seriously think eating bud is as effective as smoking it? Or that having a body buzz is some how "psychedelic"?


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Re: My friends asked me to make them brownies [Re: Juicin]
    #19257043 - 12/10/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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? Well if this were 1990 i'd agree........But I have a link for that too

http://www.gallup.com/poll/165539/first-time-americans-favor-legalizing-marijuana.aspx

And I was referring to people who use cannabis not the public at large. You seriously think eating bud is as effective as smoking it? Or that having a body buzz is some how "psychedelic"?




Common does not mean majority.

Everybody's different, dude. Just because you don't get psychedelic effects does't mean that other don't. If you would look at the choices of topics that are available for discussion in TPE, you'll see that cannabis is considered to be a psychedelic experience by many of the people on this site.


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Re: My friends asked me to make them brownies [Re: nicechrisman]
    #19257985 - 12/10/13 10:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I get about 96 doses of edibles from a half ounce of sugar leaf. Not knock you on your ass doses, but good solid doses that are a bit strong for some people, but just right for me.




If the sugar leaf is that potent I can only imagine the nug that came from that:feelshighman:


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Re: My friends asked me to make them brownies [Re: healing]
    #19260838 - 12/11/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This isn't some unverifiable fact

If you test my blood after smoking a gram of herb as opposed to eating it. The blood test from the smoking is always going to be higher. Assuming everything else is constant.

Now obviously all cannabinoids are not created equal, but eating is never going to get the actives into your system as efficiently as smoking. Period.


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Re: My friends asked me to make them brownies [Re: Juicin]
    #19261431 - 12/11/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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This isn't some unverifiable fact

If you test my blood after smoking a gram of herb as opposed to eating it. The blood test from the smoking is always going to be higher. Assuming everything else is constant.

Now obviously all cannabinoids are not created equal, but eating is never going to get the actives into your system as efficiently as smoking. Period.




Nobody said it wouldn't. Why are you so adamant? You aren't even talking about the main subject of this thread.

Since it's a verifiable fact, why don't you go find an article that supports your claim and post it in the Shroomery News Service where it belongs.


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Re: My friends asked me to make them brownies [Re: healing]
    #19261472 - 12/11/13 05:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Injecting>smoking>eating

Common knowledge, pretty sure I got taught that in drug education

The topic of the thread for me is how using good herb to make edibles is a massive waste.

excluding health reasons


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Re: My friends asked me to make them brownies [Re: Juicin]
    #19261575 - 12/11/13 05:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Injecting>smoking>eating

Common knowledge, pretty sure I got taught that in drug education

The topic of the thread for me is how using good herb to make edibles is a massive waste.

excluding health reasons




Then how do you explain our experiences? Do our data points not count because we were not a part of the sample?

Even if we are outliers, we still get more out of our weed when we use it orally, we still stay higher longer and we still have psychedelic experiences when using oral cannabis.

If that doesn't fit into your world view, then you are not equipped to be a part of this conversation. You might as well be talking to a wall, and that's exactly what we're doing when we continue posting in response to you. We are talking to a wall.


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Re: My friends asked me to make them brownies [Re: Juicin]
    #19261630 - 12/11/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Juicin said:
Injecting>smoking>eating

Common knowledge, pretty sure I got taught that in drug education

The topic of the thread for me is how using good herb to make edibles is a massive waste.

excluding health reasons




Shhhh. I get much higher on an edible than if I smoked the amount of weed put into it.


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Re: My friends asked me to make them brownies [Re: healing]
    #19262918 - 12/11/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

http://www.howstuffworks.com/marijuana2.htm


Marijuana in the Body

Every time a user smokes a marijuana cigarette or ingests marijuana in some other form, THC and other chemicals enter the user's body. The chemicals make their way through the bloodstream to the brain and then to the rest of the body. The most powerful chemical in marijuana is THC (delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol), which is primarily responsible for the "high" associated with the drug.

The most common way of using marijuana is smoking. Smoking is also the most expedient way to get the THC and other chemicals into the bloodstream. When the smoke from marijuana is inhaled, the THC goes directly to the lungs. Your lungs are lined with millions of alveoli, the tiny air sacs where gas exchange occurs. These alveoli have an enormous surface area -- 90 times greater than that of your skin -- so they make it easy for THC and other compounds to enter the body. The smoke is absorbed by the lungs just seconds after inhaling.

You can also eat marijuana. In this case, the marijuana enters the stomach and the blood absorbs it there. The blood then carries it to the liver and the rest of the body. The stomach absorbs THC more slowly than the lungs. When marijuana is eaten, the levels of THC in the body are lower, but the effects last longer.




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Re: My friends asked me to make them brownies [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19262955 - 12/11/13 09:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I love making brownies/ giving edibles out to friends.

When I was growing I would make the dankest trim bruffins from what I didnt use for hash, even after I got all the kief off the trim they still made the DANKEST edibles.


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Re: My friends asked me to make them brownies *DELETED* [Re: Juicin]
    #19263032 - 12/11/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Post deleted by niteman

Reason for deletion: Not worth bickering over anymore. Its a thread about weed brownies for christs sake.



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Re: My friends asked me to make them brownies [Re: niteman]
    #19263052 - 12/11/13 09:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It's biology, apparently beyond you.........


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Re: My friends asked me to make them brownies [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19263302 - 12/11/13 10:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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http://www.howstuffworks.com/marijuana2.htm


Marijuana in the Body

Every time a user smokes a marijuana cigarette or ingests marijuana in some other form, THC and other chemicals enter the user's body. The chemicals make their way through the bloodstream to the brain and then to the rest of the body. The most powerful chemical in marijuana is THC (delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol), which is primarily responsible for the "high" associated with the drug.

The most common way of using marijuana is smoking. Smoking is also the most expedient way to get the THC and other chemicals into the bloodstream. When the smoke from marijuana is inhaled, the THC goes directly to the lungs. Your lungs are lined with millions of alveoli, the tiny air sacs where gas exchange occurs. These alveoli have an enormous surface area -- 90 times greater than that of your skin -- so they make it easy for THC and other compounds to enter the body. The smoke is absorbed by the lungs just seconds after inhaling.

You can also eat marijuana. In this case, the marijuana enters the stomach and the blood absorbs it there. The blood then carries it to the liver and the rest of the body. The stomach absorbs THC more slowly than the lungs. When marijuana is eaten, the levels of THC in the body are lower, but the effects last longer.







This is the only citation in that article, the author of the article:
http://www.howstuffworks.com/author-bonsor.htm


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Re: My friends asked me to make them brownies [Re: healing]
    #19263498 - 12/11/13 11:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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healing said:
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http://www.howstuffworks.com/marijuana2.htm


Marijuana in the Body

Every time a user smokes a marijuana cigarette or ingests marijuana in some other form, THC and other chemicals enter the user's body. The chemicals make their way through the bloodstream to the brain and then to the rest of the body. The most powerful chemical in marijuana is THC (delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol), which is primarily responsible for the "high" associated with the drug.

The most common way of using marijuana is smoking. Smoking is also the most expedient way to get the THC and other chemicals into the bloodstream. When the smoke from marijuana is inhaled, the THC goes directly to the lungs. Your lungs are lined with millions of alveoli, the tiny air sacs where gas exchange occurs. These alveoli have an enormous surface area -- 90 times greater than that of your skin -- so they make it easy for THC and other compounds to enter the body. The smoke is absorbed by the lungs just seconds after inhaling.

You can also eat marijuana. In this case, the marijuana enters the stomach and the blood absorbs it there. The blood then carries it to the liver and the rest of the body. The stomach absorbs THC more slowly than the lungs. When marijuana is eaten, the levels of THC in the body are lower, but the effects last longer.







This is the only citation in that article, the author of the article:
http://www.howstuffworks.com/author-bonsor.htm




I was about to post that.

All it boils down to is that many people experience more "psychedelic" effects of weed when eaten as opposed to smoked.

Whether ingestion does something to the THC and its levels is irrelevant. Something happens and all that matters is the subjective experience;


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