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Nettleman
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low yield, slow growth ?
#19244027 - 12/08/13 08:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am not sure if I am doing something wrong here.
I made 5 cakes. 1 with rice flour, 2 with rye flour, 2 with corn flour (wanted to test which one is the best). The rice flour colonized the fastest, then rye flour and corn flour the slowest. The same is now happening in the FC. 1 is fastest, 2 so-so, other 2 way too slow.
I have put my 5 cakes in the FC 17 days ago and only one cakes showed some good fruits.
14 days after dunk&roll. After I birthed the cakes I lost track of which is which, but my assumption is that the middle cake is the rice flour, 2 on a left rye flour, 2 on a right corn flour:
 (Oh, the green rocks on bottom left I added just a few days ago. The are supposed to hold water but it's probably not doing anything).
16 days after birthing:

17 days after birthing:

Today I harvested the middle cake because some of the fruits seemed mature enough and I didn't want them to start dropping spores. Yield: 18 grams wet:

So one cake is doing somehow ok, the other two have some fruits but their size almost didn't change in 3 days and their caps are dark (compared to those from the middle cake). The other 2 (left) have about 2 dozens pins that don't grow and just abort. I see a lot of small pins on all the cakes, but most of them just stop growing.
Any insight what is going on?
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Re: low yield, slow growth ? [Re: Nettleman]
#19244039 - 12/08/13 08:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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How often are you misting/fanning?
They look dry.
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Quote:
kratom_redmomd said: How often are you misting/fanning?
They look dry.
yeah and if so you can always try to inject 1cc of distilled water in your cakes with a syringe
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Nettleman
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Re: low yield, slow growth ? [Re: cArcace-x]
#19244075 - 12/08/13 09:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Misting/Fanning at least 3/5 times a day. I spray the cakes from all sides to make them almost wet, trying to avoid to put too much water on the actual fruits.
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Re: low yield, slow growth ? [Re: cArcace-x]
#19244076 - 12/08/13 09:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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cArcace-x said:
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kratom_redmomd said: How often are you misting/fanning?
They look dry.
yeah and if so you can always try to inject 1cc of distilled water in your cakes with a syringe
Never use distilled water for anything besides making spore syringes.
All you have to do is mist the cakes, you do not need to inject them with water.
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Re: low yield, slow growth ? [Re: cArcace-x]
#19244090 - 12/08/13 09:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ive never done cakes before, BUT
Your shit looks dry as hell. The hygrometer is probably crap. Distilled water throws off the ph big time
Edited by SupaThaRipper (12/08/13 09:50 AM)
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Nettleman
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Re: low yield, slow growth ? [Re: PussyFart]
#19244131 - 12/08/13 09:30 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've been misting with Reverse Osmosis filter water, which is supposed to be so clean that it's almost like distilled water. Could that be an issue? Should I switch do tap water?
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Re: low yield, slow growth ? [Re: Nettleman]
#19244146 - 12/08/13 09:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes. If youre really concerned with ur tap, you could use spring water or something. But seriously, tap water is ideal.
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Re: low yield, slow growth ? [Re: PussyFart] 1
#19244167 - 12/08/13 09:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thank you hacker. For a site devoted to stopping misinformation there's a lot of stuff to weed out.
To op you don't need those goofy green rocks, and you can in fact spray your cakes directly as hacker said.
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Re: low yield, slow growth ? [Re: PussyFart]
#19245219 - 12/08/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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ok sorry for the misinformation...seem that i have been misinformed too.. i'll let the pro answer next time
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Re: low yield, slow growth ? [Re: cArcace-x]
#19245273 - 12/08/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nothing meant by it. Giving bad info seems to be a right of passage here. I recall early posts repeating the wrong info I found here too. No one says don't post, just check your facts.
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Re: low yield, slow growth ? [Re: clueless]
#19245278 - 12/08/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: low yield, slow growth ? [Re: clueless]
#19245385 - 12/08/13 02:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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clueless said: Thank you hacker. For a site devoted to stopping misinformation there's a lot of stuff to weed out.
To op you don't need those goofy green rocks, and you can in fact spray your cakes directly as hacker said.
It's because of the outdated information. I know it's there for educational purposes but all it does is create confusion for those new to the hobby.
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Just remember if something sounds sketchy then look at the post dates and see if there are any similar posts. Often times there are many newer posts debunking questionable techniques. Adding tryptamines to a substrate for instance. Sorry for any threadjacking.
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Nettleman
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I agree there is a lot of conflicting info on this forum, but I usually try to rely on the most recent posts. And if I get confused I ask people here. Notahacker420 especially has been always very helpful to me and I really appreciate it.
So I will stick to misting for now. Although I am curious what do you guys think about the mushrooms that have those dark brown caps and are almost not growing for last 3 days? Those with light brown caps have been able to go from tiny ones to mature ones in those 3 days, but the dark ones are somehow stunt. Could it be dry cake? Or too much misting of the cake?
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Re: low yield, slow growth ? [Re: Nettleman]
#19246637 - 12/08/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Real dark to black caps that haven't grown are usually aborts. I would pick them.
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Re: low yield, slow growth ? [Re: DannyDGAF]
#19251123 - 12/09/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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