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OfflinePatlal
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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19244886 - 12/08/13 01:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I didn't say I disliked the thread, it is just arbitrary. There's tons of different types of intelligences. Is someone who is a connoisseur of fine wines exhibiting high intelligence? Maybe, not everyone appreciates a good wine. What about the kid who knows every pokemon, every move each pokemon can use, and where to catch each pokemon? Appreciating or understanding something is usually learned, not something you are born with. So I'd say it doesn't take a higher level of intelligence, it takes time and the will to learn something.



personally, i think patlal is simply observing the insane amount of fanatical arguing about FUCKING LUDICROUS SUBJECTS in order to "appear" to be more well informed over "someone elsewhere".

it happens not only on every corner of every turn in day to day life in our days or nights in the streets... but also online, and in this forum.

ALL THE TIME NEVER ENDING ALWAYS.

it think it's an important thing to address. not to be pretentious... just put a mirror up in the face of aridity in this pretentious place.




I'm just trying to create a conversation in the Pub because I find it boring today.

No secret agenda here.


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Offlineakira_akuma
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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: Patlal]
    #19244962 - 12/08/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

who said anything about a secret? it's more then obvious, how people are being misapprehending of the intent of the purpose of art, and it's intrinsic purpose in the world.


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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: Patlal]
    #19244969 - 12/08/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

When it comes to music the more I learned it through playing instruments the more I appreciated it and expanded my interest. Classical music specifically.


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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: Aedan]
    #19244984 - 12/08/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

A higher? Which way is up then... I guess it depend on which side you sleep at night..
It takes a different mind.. the creative mind, and not the analythical. A right brainhemosphere in anatomous terms..


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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: Patlal]
    #19245031 - 12/08/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm just trying to create a conversation in the Pub because I find it boring today.

No secret agenda here.



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we have no reason to share our opinions here, they are invalid. we're just here to berate each others opinions when we feel suited to, and then otherwise, just talk and act as if we're above it all; for the sake of relieving boredom, or having time on our hands.

art.


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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: Patlal]
    #19245143 - 12/08/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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It seems that most people don't get it. They think it's either good or bad. No analysis, nothing.

When you look at a painting, do you "feel" what the artist was doing?

When you watch figure skating, do you understand the story the skater is acting?

When you listen to a symphony, do you grasp the deeper sense of it?


Most people are clueless. It always seems like you need refined taste. Is it another level of intelligence you think? The ability to grasp the higher sense of art?




Your interpretation =/ The artists intention

that's what YOU think so no, art is for every dumbass out there


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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: Beanhead]
    #19245157 - 12/08/13 01:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

he wasn't really asking anything he really thought about, he just made a post cause he was bored. this thread is practically a facade.

maybe it's supposed to be art... but it's shitty.


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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19245240 - 12/08/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think Aedan has a good point.

In my opinion, art has to strike you as beautiful, or at least create some sort of enjoyable emotion in those who are observing it. Also many artists (and failed artists) appreciate art much more than others because they understand what goes into it.

A guitarist will appreciate a bad ass guitar solo much more than someone who has never picked one up, as they don't have the capability to understand why the piece of music is so complex, or comes together so well. A painter, sculptor, glassblower or whatever will always appreciate the art of others in the same field to a higher degree than those with no understanding of those arts. Also something about the medium must of drawn that person in to begin with, so they are going to be far more likely to enjoy it at a broader level than those who would look at it arbitrarily and with no background.

I think many people also pretend to understand art, because they don't want to appear unintelligent to those around them. And those with excessive money, in many cases just buy expensive things to show off to their friends with hardly any appreciation for the actual art itself.


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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: JonnyBtreed]
    #19245253 - 12/08/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

like Museums...


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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: Patlal]
    #19245254 - 12/08/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I find the entire conceit of "art" to be a construct that allows the self anointed cognoscenti to look down their snouts at the bourgeoisie.


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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19245277 - 12/08/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't know about that. I suppose in the high end art world that might be the case, but there's plenty of art and artists out there that want to share their work with the everyday person, and want them to appreciate it without some crazy explanation of what the artist was trying to achieve.

Obviously the better informed will understand it more thoroughly, but you don't have to know who painted a picture to enjoy it or think it's beautiful, do you?


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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19245293 - 12/08/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I find the entire conceit of "art" to be a construct that allows the self anointed cognoscenti to look down their snouts at the bourgeoisie.



i don't think so. politics, science, participation in activities like sport and athletics, theosophy, construction and building are all forms of art.

art is something you find beauty in and beauty is in the eye of the beholder.


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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19245323 - 12/08/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think people just are wired differently. Some are extremely well at math, some art, some people skills. I wouldn't say it makes someone less intelligent to not " get " art.


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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: Mescalean]
    #19245335 - 12/08/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

OP wasn't REALLY asking anything. he already specified, he was just bored, so he made up an issue.


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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: Patlal]
    #19245369 - 12/08/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

There are intelligent people who don't "get" art, like Zappa for example, so I'd go with no.

This thread is kinda funny to me, I was just about to hop in my car and head to the Columbus Museum of Art. It's free on Sundays and so is parking :awesome: Perfect entertainment for a broke ass like myself.


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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: jewunit]
    #19245382 - 12/08/13 02:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

art is a horribly defined word, in the common English dialect. :facepalm:

PS: good observation jewunit; plus, have fun. Columbus Museum of Art has got some good stuff.


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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19245398 - 12/08/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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zappaisgod said:
I find the entire conceit of "art" to be a construct that allows the self anointed cognoscenti to look down their snouts at the bourgeoisie.



i don't think so. politics, science, participation in activities like sport and athletics, theosophy, construction and building are all forms of art.

art is something you find beauty in and beauty is in the eye of the beholder.





Those things are not labeled "art".  You may think they are and I may think they are but you will not find them discussed in the Arts section of the NY Times.


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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19245407 - 12/08/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

They had a Rothko exhibit last time I went. I'm not a big art guy, but it was pretty cool to see fucking millions of dollars worth of art in a few rooms.


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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: jewunit]
    #19245412 - 12/08/13 02:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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They had a Rothko exhibit last time I went. I'm not a big art guy, but it was pretty cool to see fucking millions of dollars worth of art in a few rooms.




And how did they acquire that value?


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Re: Does it take a higher level of intelligence to understand art? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19245416 - 12/08/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't really care, it was still cool.

Fuck me, the museum closes at 5:30. I thought it was 7 on Sundays. Oh well, next week.


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