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Re: An age of dispair [Re: absols]
#19254207 - 12/10/13 07:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh I agree.
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Re: An age of dispair [Re: Icelander]
#19254635 - 12/10/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've mentioned before that Becker kind of leaves you hanging. Finding one's way back out of the labyrinth is even harder than slaying the minotaur (DA).
Have you read The Hero With A Thousand Faces? The last half of the book (The Hero's Return) is very helpful.
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Re: An age of dispair [Re: Middleman]
#19254655 - 12/10/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's JC right? I haven't read it. At this stage of the game I make my own plans on how to play this out. If I'm going to fuck up I want to know it was by taking my own advice and not some other lost soul.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: An age of dispair [Re: Icelander]
#19254669 - 12/10/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well, good luck with that. 
The flax for the linen of his thread he has gathered from the fields of the human imagination. Centuries of husbandry, decades of diligent culling, the work of numerous hearts and hands, have gone into the hackling, sorting, and spinning of this tightly twisted yarn. Furthermore, we have not even to risk the adventure alone; for the heroes of all time have gone before us; the labyrinth is thoroughly known; we have only to follow the thread of the hero-path. And where we had thought to find an abomination, we shall find a god; where we had thought to slay another, we shall slay ourselves, where we had though to travel outward, we shall come to the center of our own existence; where we had thought to be alone, we shall be with the whole world. - J. Campbell
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Re: An age of dispair [Re: Middleman]
#19254713 - 12/10/13 10:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I know this. I'm not saying I won't be building on the shoulders of everyone who has ever influenced me. I guess I didn't say that well. What I'm saying is that at my age I've heard and gotten all the information I need to be making my own choices now. For instance I haven't heard a truly unique subject on these forums in years.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: An age of dispair [Re: Icelander]
#19255283 - 12/10/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Me neither.
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Re: An age of dispair [Re: Icelander]
#19255463 - 12/10/13 01:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Rev. Morton said: I've mentioned before that Becker kind of leaves you hanging. Finding one's way back out of the labyrinth is even harder than slaying the minotaur (DA).
Have you read The Hero With A Thousand Faces? The last half of the book (The Hero's Return) is very helpful. 
Quite a lot of Becker Scholars (people who took up Becker's work after he pasted) are existential psychotherapists, theologians, and others of pastoral consoling. The existential psychotherapists that I mentioned draw heavily from Becker, Joseph Campbell and Rollo May. (May wrote The Cry for Myth.)
Myth's give us a way, kind of like a map, to orientation ourselves in the world. That's at least May's conclusion.
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Icelander said: For instance I haven't heard a truly unique subject on these forums in years.
I think that's part of the majority of the mentality that the users here hold. At lot of people here subscribe to points in existentialism, even if they don't label themselves as existentialists. I mean, I do too. That's partly why I come here for the like mindedness of the people who post here.
EDIT: Some grammatical touch ups.
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Edited by r72rock (12/10/13 01:39 PM)
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Re: An age of dispair [Re: Icelander]
#19256360 - 12/10/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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absols, you simply misunderstood the place from which I was asking the question.
Ice, I too had a very insecure childhood for many different reasons and have been through the very kind of thing I was asking you about in my last post...
I often refer to the fruits of what I sought as bitter wisdom, as the 'truth' and 'bigger picture' was not what I hoped it to be or imagined... Much more impersonal than seems humanly bearable... I think most people want magic and comfort and there, I don't think they will find the wisdom they claim to seek.
These past few years have been quite dark for me, until I discovered for myself that meaninglessness and happiness are by no means counterparts to one another, that I don't need meaning where there clearly isn't necessarily any to walk a path that will help me die in peace...
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I hear ya.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: An age of dispair [Re: Icelander]
#19258784 - 12/11/13 05:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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-------------------- Anxiety is what you make it.
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-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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