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Deviate
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Re: Why did God create you? [Re: CosmicJoke]
#19253930 - 12/10/13 04:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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CosmicJoke said: So it's kind of like God performing auto fellatio, and Christ consciousness is realizing your mouth and cock are all part of one being, so you don't have to feel self conscious about it. Thanks for clearing that up, Deviate. 
Precisely. As funny as it sounds, that is exactly what I am saying.
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Re: Why did God create you? [Re: Deviate]
#19254687 - 12/10/13 10:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The others people on this forum who also have attained levels of realization understand me, those who havent do not.
I just love responses like this.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Why did you create God? [Re: Deviate]
#19254694 - 12/10/13 10:34 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I created god because of ignorance and fear.
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Re: Why did you create God? [Re: DieCommie]
#19254736 - 12/10/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think that's at least one if not the main reasons for the creation of deities.
To think that there is a god talking specifically to you and telling you what "he" thinks so you can go out and tell others is really a childish notion imo. When you step back and look at most religious practice you can easily identify it as the same childlike behavior that is behind the tooth fairy and santa claus and monsters in the closet.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Why did you create God? [Re: Icelander]
#19255248 - 12/10/13 12:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Humans are childlike creatures. We think we are all sophisticated but in reality we are like children who respond to bright lights and pretty colors.
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Re: Why did God create you? [Re: endogenous]
#19255266 - 12/10/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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deCypher said: You might as well expect an ant to be able to predict why a human just sprayed his nest with pesticide.
I wouldn't assume that an ant wouldn't understand that.
And your basis for believing this is...?
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Deviate said: The Lord God created us in order so that he could become conscious of himself. You see without creation, God is conscious but he does not know that he conscious, he simply IS. But through individualizing himself into what we call "beings", God is able to come apart from Himself and thus explore himself from the inside out. The end result of this process is God coming to know who he is in a totally conscious way. This is the state of God-realization, where the illusion of duality is broken. Traditionally, the Lord Jesus Christ is associated with this state of consciousness more than any other person. It is not the highest level of consciousness however, growth in awareness continues even after God-realization.
I think any belief that pretends to know what a God, by definition an intelligent, conscious being of vaster greater intellect than ourselves, can think or what His or Her purpose is in doing anything is incredibly naive and over-optimistic. You might as well expect an ant to be able to predict why a human just sprayed his nest with pesticide. 
Yes it is in a way, but you also must remember that we are part of this whole process that some call God and this gives as a very intimate peak at it. Of course its ultimate purpose is far beyond anything that our intellect can grasp and yet, our intellect can sort of get a sense of its own role in this process and that that role involves growth, and realization. We can get a sense that our ultimate purpose is to gain wisdom and understanding and not to chase after fleeting pleasures, if for no other reason than the former is fullfilling on multiple levels of our being and the latter is not.
You see we must learn to trust ourselves. Not our egos but ourselves. Somewhere deep within our beings there is a wisdom that tells us how things are. Its the primordial intelligence at work. It was the primordial intelligence which prompted you to write that post. The primordial intelligence welled up inside you and told you that "I think any belief that pretends to know what a God, by definition an intelligent, conscious being of vaster greater intellect than ourselves, can think or what His or Her purpose is in doing anything is incredibly naive and over-optimistic" and this is quite true and yet at the same time, you must recognize that you possess the very intelligence which gave you this knowledge and this is the same intelligence that prompted me to see life as involving the growth in awareness. Do you see how its just all just perspectives on the infinite and unfathomable unknown? In truth God is the ultimate unknown mystery and yet we can turn our minds to comtemplation of this mystery rather than toward worldly gain.
I dunno, if there's anything I've come to realize over the course of my life it's that 99% of the things I've trusted/hoped/wanted to be true without evidence, in the end weren't. And I see no evidence for any of the characteristics you're listing of this 'primordial intelligence'. How do you know any of this? Wouldn't an "ultimate unknown mystery" be completely incompatible with the facts you've confidently laid out in your post about our ultimate purpose and what's fundamentally fulfilling to our primal being?
-------------------- We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.
 
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Re: Why did you create God? [Re: Deviate]
#19255276 - 12/10/13 12:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Deviate said: Humans are childlike creatures. We think we are all sophisticated but in reality we are like children who respond to bright lights and pretty colors.
and pretty uniforms with fancy hats showing status.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Why did you create God? [Re: Icelander]
#19258238 - 12/10/13 11:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am still very much an infite in my spiritual awakening but I have realized what you say deviate. In other words I have seen through the veil.
I have recently pondered what it would be like to be God. It would seem to be a boring existence. Perhaps God created us out of pure boredom as a way to obtain new experiences. Perhaps he purges his consciousness into each of us with individual egos so that we (God) may experience ourself and our creation
Thoughts?
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Re: Why did you create God? [Re: Stromrider]
#19258528 - 12/11/13 01:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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This thread may have well begun with the reading of "Conversations with God"
To experience God is to wonder of God. To wonder of God is to appreciate the physicality of Creation. To appreciate the physicality of Creation is to experience God with amnesia.
I can only experience what I am, by knowing what I am not. I provide a safety net, the ultimate safety net, of blissful Divinity.
Look into the mirror.
There only Is; I Am.
We all, Am.
Welcome to the Matrix.
-------------------- "I am......I am here......and I love" Forgive Yourself,...Forgive Yourself,...I love You,...Forgive Yourself Mycology is good for the Soul
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Re: Why did God create you? [Re: Deviate]
#19258553 - 12/11/13 02:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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CosmicJoke said: So it's kind of like God performing auto fellatio, and Christ consciousness is realizing your mouth and cock are all part of one being, so you don't have to feel self conscious about it. Thanks for clearing that up, Deviate. 
Precisely. As funny as it sounds, that is exactly what I am saying.
I was just playing with ya, for not getting outraged. I have experienced life precisely as you have described in your OP and have even been down right convinced about it at times.. Now I'm not so sure, seems more like a "reality tunnel" (and a useful one I might add), but only one of many ways in which we can perceive our world, all of which have something useful to tell us about ourselves if we're willing to listen.
-------------------- Everything is better than it was the last time. I'm good. If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care. It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence. I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too. If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.
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