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Mosey3012



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Would you still use your pasturized sub still if...
#19239948 - 12/07/13 09:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you pasteurized your sub (coir/verm) in jars with foil/ring over foil last week Saturday then moved them from stove top directly to grow area after pasteurization was completed but haven't had a chance to use it until today (they've sat untouched for 7 days)... would you still use it to spawn some freshly colonized grain? (RGS). I suppose I could re-pasteurize it however I don't see how if it was properly pasteurized and the lids were never removed that there would be any contamination growing in it... If there was wouldn't I have been doomed in the first place anyway?
Lemme know I got some time to re-pasteurize today but would rather focus my attention elsewhere if possible as there's lots to do this time of year!
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FungiJB
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Re: Would you still use your pasturized sub still if... [Re: Mosey3012]
#19240025 - 12/07/13 09:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I had a BRF jar sit for 4 months, and I inoced it, and had success. I bet your fine.
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PussyFart
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Re: Would you still use your pasturized sub still if... [Re: FungiJB]
#19240031 - 12/07/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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A sterile BRF jars is WAY different than pasteurized bulk substrate material.
I would repasteurize it personally.
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SupaThaRipper
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Re: Would you still use your pasturized sub still if... [Re: PussyFart]
#19240053 - 12/07/13 09:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Notahacker420 said:
I would repasteurize it personally.
Explain please. Im curious as to why.
Edited by SupaThaRipper (12/07/13 09:37 AM)
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PussyFart
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Re: Would you still use your pasturized sub still if... [Re: SupaThaRipper]
#19240073 - 12/07/13 09:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Because it has been a week.....I would just feel more comfortable either dumping it and starting over or just repasteurizing it.
Just my opinion.....it could be just fine as it is.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Would you still use your pasturized sub still if... [Re: SupaThaRipper]
#19240077 - 12/07/13 09:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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To eliminate a variable, play it safe, and not cut a corner. I bet you would be fine since coir is basically fool proof but if it were hpoo or something less forgiving you would re pasteurize Or see problems so why not treat it properly even if its coir.
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Mosey3012



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Re: Would you still use your pasturized sub still if... [Re: bodhisatta]
#19240100 - 12/07/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Notahacker420 said: Because it has been a week.....I would just feel more comfortable either dumping it and starting over or just repasteurizing it.
Just my opinion.....it could be just fine as it is.
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bodhisatta said: To eliminate a variable, play it safe, and not cut a corner. I bet you would be fine since coir is basically fool proof but if it were hpoo or something less forgiving you would re pasteurize Or see problems so why not treat it properly even if its coir.
All I needed to hear, thanks To zeh stove!
Extra practice never heard either, I'm still trying to get my stove temps down to where I don't have to check it as often as I normally do. Go figure the thermometer I bought has an alarm on it... that doesnt seem to work... but it beeps when I turn it on lol... fml.
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SupaThaRipper
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Re: Would you still use your pasturized sub still if... [Re: Mosey3012]
#19242442 - 12/07/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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To be honest, if it were pasteurized correctly, then why not wing it? Poo would indeed be more iffy though.
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HypnotoadCroaked
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Re: Would you still use your pasturized sub still if... [Re: SupaThaRipper]
#19242545 - 12/07/13 08:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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SupaThaRipper said: To be honest, if it were pasteurized correctly, then why not wing it? Poo would indeed be more iffy though.
Pasteurizing will knock down most bad items (Bacteria/mold), while still leaving some behind. In the week that it sat, things could have begun colonizing that mass that are less than desirable. There is no competition, and if it had been mixed with grain, it would be mostly colonized by now under average conditions. Good conditions would possibly put it close to fruiting.
As you said, with it being coir, it probably won't matter, but no sense in cutting any corners if you can.
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Re: Would you still use your pasturized sub still if... [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
#19242777 - 12/07/13 09:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would still use it.
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: Would you still use your pasturized sub still if... [Re: PocketRevolution]
#19243221 - 12/08/13 12:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Use it. It'll be fine.
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