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Re: The best argument for Christianity I've ever heard [Re: Deviate]
#19269070 - 12/13/13 01:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It has nothing to do with Christianity as far as I'm concerned. If I rob a store to give money to the church does that mean the church is to blame? I am to blame.
This was so irrational I couldn't finish your post before responding. 
How was I to take it up with the school when I was 6 years old. I didn't know until much much later that they were violating my rights.
How am I to blame if I was forced to pray in school. That makes no sense whatsoever.
Now I'll read the rest.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: The best argument for Christianity I've ever heard [Re: Deviate]
#19269082 - 12/13/13 01:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Religions are like a computer program that when you run it, it wipes the whole hard drive.
Exactly what attempts to happen. (fortunately often it fails) The problem is that someone besides me wanted to run it and was able to force it on me. I've been trying to explain that because that's what I've been saying from the beginning in this conversation and I never said anything else or was making any other point and you've spent all your responses to me trying to obfuscate that very simple fact.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: The best argument for Christianity I've ever heard [Re: Icelander]
#19269096 - 12/13/13 01:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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All I am saying is that having someone else force their beliefs on you is part of life on planet earth. Its not right of course, especially when done aggressively and yet its almost unavoidable. Culture would fall apart if people didnt force their children to accept their version of reality. Its not something speficic to Christianity. If you had been born in a moon god worshipping culture, you would have been forced to worship the moon god. If you lived in a scientific culture, you would have been forced to see the world through the lens of science.
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Re: The best argument for Christianity I've ever heard [Re: Deviate]
#19269108 - 12/13/13 02:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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That has nothing to do with the point I am trying to make
and it's hardly a justification for people trying to legislate their religious beliefs on my life. It's not supposed to be the law of the land and so I can easier resist this bit of nonsense.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: The best argument for Christianity I've ever heard [Re: Icelander]
#19269133 - 12/13/13 02:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Icelander said: It has nothing to do with Christianity as far as I'm concerned. If I rob a store to give money to the church does that mean the church is to blame? I am to blame.
This was so irrational I couldn't finish your post before responding. 
How was I to take it up with the school when I was 6 years old. I didn't know until much much later that they were violating my rights.
How am I to blame if I was forced to pray in school. That makes no sense whatsoever.
Now I'll read the rest. 
I wasnt suggesting you were to blame.
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Re: The best argument for Christianity I've ever heard [Re: Deviate]
#19269573 - 12/13/13 06:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Deviate said: All I am saying is that having someone else force their beliefs on you is part of life on planet earth.
So is dying...
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Re: The best argument for Christianity I've ever heard [Re: viktor]
#19270921 - 12/13/13 02:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Personally, all I think Jesus wanted us to do was love without condition. To serve without expectation of anything in return, and to do no harm. Of course most people(Christians included) cannot follow that perfectly- no one can. The point is we strive for that. It is better to try and fail, than to not try at all.
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Re: The best argument for Christianity I've ever heard [Re: rcm61132110]
#19272677 - 12/13/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Which Christian Bible contains the book "Faith"??? Is that in the New New Testament?
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Re: The best argument for Christianity I've ever heard [Re: TheMaster]
#19274045 - 12/14/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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No Bible contains the book of faith. Not even the Apophrica.
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Re: The best argument for Christianity I've ever heard [Re: rcm61132110]
#19276003 - 12/14/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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rcm61132110 said: No Bible contains the book of faith. Not even the Apophrica.
I was pretty sure it was a joke, but I'm not exactly a religion scholar.
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