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bEelzeBosS
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Look how lucky I am anne!
#19242768 - 12/07/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is one flush from three 52qt tubs. I follow Frank's teks for the most part with a few minor changes here and there but that had nothing to do with this...this is all just pure luck. I'm glad I'm so lucky with my closet and bathroom, no way anyone could do this without a lab unless they were as lucky as me.
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Adrenalien
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Re: Look how lucky I am anne! [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#19242779 - 12/07/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Awesome work!
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tripdawg420
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Re: Look how lucky I am anne! [Re: Adrenalien]
#19242786 - 12/07/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Josh.0
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Re: Look how lucky I am anne! [Re: Adrenalien]
#19242789 - 12/07/13 09:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ultron
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Re: Look how lucky I am anne! [Re: Adrenalien]
#19242791 - 12/07/13 09:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nice!
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DannyDGAF
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Re: Look how lucky I am anne! [Re: Ultron]
#19242795 - 12/07/13 10:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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HypnotoadCroaked
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Re: Look how lucky I am anne! [Re: Adrenalien]
#19242796 - 12/07/13 10:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Adrenalien said: Awesome work!
chaotic646: As much as it pains me to ask, but if you could please change the title of this thread. I think its better to sit on a high horse and be better than "them" than than to invite more of their rhetoric. Be the better person, and if "it" bothers you, you should certainly make use of the ignore feature.
Please don't feed the trolls.
Don't mistake my point....I really don't want to see your balls getting busted over this. (And yes you are better than "them)
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bEelzeBosS
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I'm not worried, if people want to bust my balls so be it...its the internet, my skin is very thick.
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elasticaltiger
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Re: Look how lucky I am anne! [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#19242881 - 12/07/13 10:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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You are obviously a horrible grower who only got lucky. Only skilled growers working in professional labs using no gypsum can produce results like that. You cheapen this hobby for everyone else by posting here.
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit. "The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates) Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson EZEKIEL 23:20
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HypnotoadCroaked
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Re: Look how lucky I am anne! [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#19242891 - 12/07/13 10:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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chaotic646 said: I'm not worried, if people want to bust my balls so be it...its the internet, my skin is very thick.
Ahahah! I love it!
Nice job btw. I tell you what makes photos like that 10x better....if you put them side by side with pictures of a lab you visited in middle school...Then you can lie and tell us about how these were grown using lab techniques.
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bEelzeBosS
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elasticaltiger said: You are obviously a horrible grower who only got lucky. Only skilled growers working in professional labs using no gypsum can produce results like that. You cheapen this hobby for everyone else by posting here.
I used gypsum AND spent coffee grounds...I should buy a powerball ticket!
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tripdawg420
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elasticaltiger said: You are obviously a horrible grower who only got lucky. Only skilled growers working in professional labs using no gypsum can produce results like that. You cheapen this hobby for everyone else by posting here.
what does that even mean
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bEelzeBosS
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Re: Look how lucky I am anne! [Re: tripdawg420]
#19242963 - 12/07/13 10:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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tripdawg420 said:
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elasticaltiger said: You are obviously a horrible grower who only got lucky. Only skilled growers working in professional labs using no gypsum can produce results like that. You cheapen this hobby for everyone else by posting here.
what does that even mean 
You haven't met anne I take it? You should google her teks.
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elasticaltiger
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Re: Look how lucky I am anne! [Re: tripdawg420]
#19243057 - 12/07/13 11:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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tripdawg420 said:
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elasticaltiger said: You are obviously a horrible grower who only got lucky. Only skilled growers working in professional labs using no gypsum can produce results like that. You cheapen this hobby for everyone else by posting here.
what does that even mean 
Trust me dude, it was a compliment.
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit. "The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates) Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson EZEKIEL 23:20
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Moorning Due
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Grow looks great btw!!
Edited by Moorning Due (12/08/13 12:39 AM)
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anne halonium
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how encouraging.
accepting luck, is a good first step for recovery. typically, peeps run a shovel thru a barn and become PHD mycologists. your realism is refreshing.
i love a good learning curve. soon , youll realize, you can get even greater results, with better teks, better equip, at a fraction of the energy!
and, before ya know it, youll have food safe grows of skill! um ,speaking of wich, just outta curiosity, did ya scan that sub for......... antibiotics, pesticides, metals, steroids, parasites, and mycotoxins?
Edited by anne halonium (12/08/13 06:30 AM)
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SupaThaRipper
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anne halonium said: just outta curiosity, did ya scan that sub for......... antibiotics, pesticides, metals, steroids, parasites, and mycotoxins?
^just about the most ridiculous shit I have heard all year.
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HypnotoadCroaked
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Sounds good. Talk is cheap....SCAN ME!
(sometimes when I first log in I can see what it says)
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anne halonium
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SupaThaRipper said:
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anne halonium said: just outta curiosity, did ya scan that sub for......... antibiotics, pesticides, metals, steroids, parasites, and mycotoxins?
^just about the most ridiculous shit I have heard all year.
not surprised ya feel that way in the least. what would shock me, is if you guys were concerned , about food and bio handling safety.
so , what your saying is , youd be comfortable with ALL the foods you eat, being held to the same bio standard? or is it just the " magical foods"
poor bio safety, and unknown sub composition, USED to be cool......... its not any longer.
new age growers, demand a food safe reliable grow of power. do not settle for less.
you may not be concerned, but the smart growers are..........
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LiquidGlass
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SupaThaRipper said:
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anne halonium said: just outta curiosity, did ya scan that sub for......... antibiotics, pesticides, metals, steroids, parasites, and mycotoxins?
^just about the most ridiculous shit I have heard all year.

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new age growers, demand a food safe reliable grow of power. do not settle for less.
I was a cook for several years, taken many a food handling/sanitation class. You can easily get a "food safe reliable grow of power" with some basic supplies and a little knowledge of cleanliness and knowing where your ingredients came from. This can easily be achieved without lab conditions.
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HypnotoadCroaked
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Re: Look how lucky I am anne! [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19245395 - 12/08/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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LiquidGlass said: I was a cook for several years, taken many a food handling/sanitation class. You can easily get a "food safe reliable grow of power" with some basic supplies and a little knowledge of cleanliness and knowing where your ingredients came from. This can easily be achieved without lab conditions.
I wonder, If Anne's neighbor approached and said "I grew way too many tomatoes and zucchini this summer, do you want any"...what would happen....I would imagine that "it" only acts the way it does (John Gabriel's Greater Internet "F-wad" theory), and would graciously accept fruits and veggies grown OUTSIDE OF A LAB, IN A BACKYARD.
Do you think that "it" speaks in haiku to "its" neighbor?
Thanks for the Tomatoes Ripe they are Should make for some nice topper To my burger on the grill Also made outside a lab with meat obtained from an unknown cow Delivered to my grocer's meat department.
The way it acts about lab conditions here makes me wonder if "it" even eats. There is no way that any grocery store produce aisle meets "its" standards.
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bEelzeBosS
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Whippy said:
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LiquidGlass said: I was a cook for several years, taken many a food handling/sanitation class. You can easily get a "food safe reliable grow of power" with some basic supplies and a little knowledge of cleanliness and knowing where your ingredients came from. This can easily be achieved without lab conditions.
I wonder, If Anne's neighbor approached and said "I grew way too many tomatoes and zucchini this summer, do you want any"...what would happen....I would imagine that "it" only acts the way it does (John Gabriel's Greater Internet "F-wad" theory), and would graciously accept fruits and veggies grown OUTSIDE OF A LAB, IN A BACKYARD.
Do you think that "it" speaks in haiku to "its" neighbor?
Thanks for the Tomatoes Ripe they are Should make for some nice topper To my burger on the grill Also made outside a lab with meat obtained from an unknown cow Delivered to my grocer's meat department.
The way it acts about lab conditions here makes me wonder if "it" even eats. There is no way that any grocery store produce aisle meets "its" standards.

There is no way anne believes the shit she's spewing. She's probably laughing her ass off at all of us, especially me for letting her troll me into making this thread. Must be a boring life to have nothing to do other than fuck with people on the internet all day.
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HypnotoadCroaked
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Re: Look how lucky I am anne! [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#19245799 - 12/08/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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chaotic646 said: Must be a boring life to have nothing to do other than fuck with people on the internet all day.
Thank god I am on vacation this month so that I can enjoy all these fun-guys.
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invitro


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Re: Look how lucky I am anne! [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19245935 - 12/08/13 04:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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From the wiki on pp5 or polypropelene:
In 2008, researchers in Canada asserted that quaternary ammonium biocides and oleamide were leaking out of certain polypropylene labware, affecting experimental results.[28] As polypropylene is used in a wide number of food containers such as those for yogurt, Health Canada media spokesman Paul Duchesne, said the department will be reviewing the findings to determine whether steps are needed to protect consumers.[29]
Quaternary ammonium compounds can display a range of health effects, amongst which are mild skin and respiratory irritation [11] up to severe caustic burns on skin and gastro-intestinal lining (depending on concentration), gastro-intestinal symptoms (e.g., nausea and vomiting), coma, convulsions, hypotension and death.[12]
How's your testing going for these substances in your pp5 pced grains Anne?
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Violet



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Re: Look how lucky I am anne! [Re: invitro]
#19245982 - 12/08/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Invitro, are you serious? You posted that junk 5 months ago. I wasn't aware you were the type to cherry-pick whatever you can use as a demonstrative weapon, whether it's legit or not...
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anne halonium said: food is commonly stored in PP5.
Exactly. Certainly by now 'the department' has fully been "reviewing the findings to determine whether steps are needed to protect consumers." If they found true issues you'd have found more than that barely-relevant tidbit. 5 years later Zip-Loc products are on the shelf with safety that far exceeds the standards of most.
At that; "In 2008, researchers in Canada asserted that quaternary ammonium biocides and oleamide were leaking out of certainpolypropylene labware" "Certain" labware. This seems to indicate that it wasn't coming out of ALL labware and is thus is not an inherent in polypropylene. Not to mention that Canadian researches simply "asserted" that it happened at all.
If I were to have found only the doc that you found, but nothing beyond it saying that such concerns were found to be valid, I'd continue to suspend unnecessary disbelief. You can ALWAYS find SOMETHING that could feed superfluous worry, especially on the internet. The question is, how willing are you to let them intercept the goings-on of your real life?
If you really think their "assertion" about "certain labware" should be considered a potential reason to not try this grow tek, but continue to eat directly out of those very products and make no point of informing yourself as to which, then I would call that "filtering a fly but swallowing a camel." My humble opinion: That's silly and trivial.
The title of your post; "Is polypropylene safe?" ...Safe for What? To grow in? Yes!
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anne halonium said: i would suggest , you dont eat PP5 contianers.
I'm not sure I could word my sentiments more briefly than that.
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HypnotoadCroaked
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Re: Look how lucky I am anne! [Re: invitro]
#19246032 - 12/08/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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invitro said:
How's your testing going for these substances in your pp5 pced grains Anne?
Scan for that?
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invitro


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Re: Look how lucky I am anne! [Re: Violet]
#19246141 - 12/08/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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5 months ago I was content to accept that you(violet and Anne) were not concerned, so I dropped it.
But it is a double standard to test for all manner of contaminants in horse manure bulk teks and then turn a blind eye to possible contaminants in pp5. Obvoiusly my concern was in the mushroom taking up the chemicals from the pp5. Saying "do not eat pp5 containers" is nonsense, which is why I didn't reply the first time.
This message was more a warning to those who are new to pp5. Quaternary ammonuim leaking from pp5 food containers was a possibility that Canada was looking at seriously, probably until big business squashed any hope of researching it.
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2bittoker
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Re: Look how lucky I am anne! [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#19246220 - 12/08/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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chaotic646 said: This is one flush from three 52qt tubs. I follow Frank's teks for the most part with a few minor changes here and there but that had nothing to do with this...this is all just pure luck. I'm glad I'm so lucky with my closet and bathroom, no way anyone could do this without a lab unless they were as lucky as me.

Damn! I see you used three 52 qt tubs but how much spawn and substrate did you use?
Nice flush anyway
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HypnotoadCroaked
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Re: Look how lucky I am anne! [Re: invitro]
#19246319 - 12/08/13 05:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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invitro said: probably until big business squashed any hope of researching it.
It is quite amazing in the great old USA how many oil "enriched" products we use daily. Oil is used in plastics. In case any of you missed that lesson in JR high economics....OIL IS BIG BUSINESS, with big money...enough to squash research and to buy politicians. Oil does not adhere to borders or governments, and has more money then they do.
It is 100% A double standard to point a finger and say "did you check for this/that" while defending the notion that chemicals are certainly not leaching out of the plastics that use for every part of your process....Though studies by a number of non government/oil groups class PP5 as a "low to moderate hazard". I am 100% certain that Annie's garage lab tek has no way to test for that. Sounds like someone is caught in a conundrum.
I am less concerned about agar xfers from pp5 than I am eating from a pp5 container (Who the hell would eat a pp5 container.)
I do not trust our grand government to protect us (Any of them), and certainly don't expect any company using oil to make consumer products to divulge any real truths.
Playing devil's advocate has been fun, but.... I think that it is a VERY INTELLIGENT RETORT by invitro:
AnneViolet: Did you scan your output for leeched chemicals from the plastic? Do you even have the capacity to do that in your lab? How can you say for sure that you are not allowing a known carcinogen to slip into your fruits? Did you even know that this was possible? There are mushrooms that have been proven to eat plastics, who is to say that cubes cannot metabolize and store these chemicals in their fruit body? If you did not test for it, you cannot make claims that it does not.
I can't remember too many times that glass was accused of anything like this.
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bEelzeBosS
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Re: Look how lucky I am anne! [Re: 2bittoker]
#19246436 - 12/08/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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2bittoker said:
Damn! I see you used three 52 qt tubs but how much spawn and substrate did you use?
Nice flush anyway 
3qt spawn, 5qt sub. They're about 2 inches deep.
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Re: Look how lucky I am anne! [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#19246534 - 12/08/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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chaotic646 said: This is one flush from three 52qt tubs. I follow Frank's teks for the most part with a few minor changes here and there but that had nothing to do with this...this is all just pure luck. I'm glad I'm so lucky with my closet and bathroom, no way anyone could do this without a lab unless they were as lucky as me.

thats how we do it round here, good job. +5 for you
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Re: Look how lucky I am anne! [Re: twistedty]
#19246948 - 12/08/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I sure as hell don't scan the tomatoes and peppers I grow for antibiotics, pesticides, metals, steroids parasites, or mycotoxins, why the fuck would I scan my shrooms? Last time I checked, people weren't feeding heavy metals to horses and growing coir with steroids that could be absorbed by mushrooms and cause me any significant harm. I guarantee drinking regular milk is far more of a hazard.
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