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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a middle-income person today? [Re: fapjack]
#19252693 - 12/09/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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fapjack said: There is probably over a trillion gigs of data on the internet, library of congress has less than 500,000 gigs. I don't even understand what you are trying to say.
If I understand correctly... Since she failed to find her textbooks for free she believes no one else can or has done that. An interesting attitude I must say. And one which would have deprived man of all invention if it were believed by other inventors just because someone had previously failed at it.
For some perspective, I graduated college in 2010 and my senior year I regularly got my textbooks as bootleg e-products, including the professor's test banks. They are out there but I did expend considerable effort. Keep in mind only something like 20% of the internet is indexed by google or bing...
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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a middle-income person today? [Re: Ellis Dee]
#19252819 - 12/09/13 09:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well no shit there's over a trillion gigs of data, over 90% of that is porn, youtube, facebook, and other irrelevant shit.
Yea, I guess if you are looking for the latest celebrity gossip, or cooking recipes, or how to perform CWE extractions, videos of kittens the internet is the place to go. But as far as finding high quality scholarly material, the internet doesn't even come close to the content the library offers. I am talking about QUALITY of information, not a vast amount of useless and irrelevant material (which the internet is best at).
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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a middle-income person today? [Re: Crystal G]
#19252907 - 12/09/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said: Well no shit there's over a trillion gigs of data, over 90% of that is porn, youtube, facebook, and other irrelevant shit.
Yea, I guess if you are looking for the latest celebrity gossip, or cooking recipes, or how to perform CWE extractions, videos of kittens the internet is the place to go. But as far as finding high quality scholarly material, the internet doesn't even come close to the content the library offers. I am talking about QUALITY of information, not a vast amount of useless and irrelevant material (which the internet is best at).
There is a vast amount of qualty information on the internet, you just may have to wade through some bullshit to find it
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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a middle-income person today? [Re: Crystal G] 1
#19252919 - 12/09/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a middle-income person today? [Re: fapjack]
#19252951 - 12/09/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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More on topic, if you guys feel like discussing it, my point was more that having easier access to information doesn't make all that huge a difference in one's day to day life. Sure, being able to stream netflix is a great improvement on the 60s; but if you were rich enough then, having a private movie theater isn't out of the question.
I'm trying to think of real important experiences that weren't possible then that are now. Watching a movie in hi-def doesn't really count, sorry.
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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a middle-income person today? [Re: fapjack]
#19252953 - 12/09/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ellis deee, I will get to your post in a minute. I'm pumping iron in the gym now.
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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a well-off person today? [Re: Moorning Due]
#19253020 - 12/09/13 10:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm pretty content with where I am in my life right now, but if I had to make a choice between one of these, I would probably choose the 60's. Sexual revolution, great abundant strong LSD, great music, etc.
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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a middle-income person today? [Re: Crystal G]
#19253072 - 12/09/13 10:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't think any further reply is needed. Our experiences and resources we found were different, that was all. Its not as though any two people's experiences are ever the same anyway. Ask 10 witnesses to a car crash what happened and you get 10 different answers. We percievice and find different things, as it should be.
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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a middle-income person today? [Re: Ellis Dee]
#19253769 - 12/10/13 02:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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fapjack said: There is probably over a trillion gigs of data on the internet, library of congress has less than 500,000 gigs. I don't even understand what you are trying to say.
If I understand correctly... Since she failed to find her textbooks for free she believes no one else can or has done that. An interesting attitude I must say. And one which would have deprived man of all invention if it were believed by other inventors just because someone had previously failed at it.
For some perspective, I graduated college in 2010 and my senior year I regularly got my textbooks as bootleg e-products, including the professor's test banks. They are out there but I did expend considerable effort. Keep in mind only something like 20% of the internet is indexed by google or bing...
So, may I ask exactly how you ascertained these products? Perhaps you could give us a step by step guide. After all, a large percentage of the Shroomery are starving college students, and I'm sure they would all appreciate your insight as to how you were able to obtain these documents.
Let's say, for example, I want to find the actual text from "Global Feminisms, Transnational Political Economics, Third World Cultural Production" by Winifred Woodhull, or "Wake Up and Smell the Lipgloss: Gender, Generation, and the Apolitics of Girl Power" by Rebecca Mumford, where would I go to get these online?
(I don't know how difficult any of these are to find online BTW, for all I know it could be quite easy, I'm simply selecting them at random from a compilation of books by my nightstand). But I'm just curious as to what methods you would use to ascertain these papers.
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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a middle-income person today? [Re: Crystal G]
#19253803 - 12/10/13 03:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I initially found one from peer to peer sharing. Then the rest I began to get these crazy thoughts, like I will social engineer them from the publishers, and with some success hit the brick wall of publishers wanting to ship free physical copies to my university office. And since I was impersonating a professor I didn't want to risk getting them shipped to a real person and then trying to maintain they were sent to him by mistake when they were mine... I eventually made email contact with a person who had the current $3000 dollar becker cpa review software for sale for $150. So far as I gather he was tapped into foreign sources from an institution he was involved in and I paid him $10 each for the electronic versions of professor's copies with electronic test bank and other professor resources for several of my books. I naturally did initial seeding of those onto a torrent site to share the love. The flow to the student is restricted by institutional hurdles but like any other hurdles they can be overcome/corrupted by evil men, like me. This was over 3 years ago now, so if I were going to begin again I'd be starting again from scratch, but that should give you ideas of where I hit dead ends and had success.
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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a middle-income person today? [Re: Ellis Dee]
#19253814 - 12/10/13 03:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ellis Dee said: I initially found one from peer to peer sharing.
When you say peer to peer sharing, are you talking like torrents, or as in somebody emailed an attachment to you with the file in the attachment? Because I basically view this as a slightly more intricate process than a scanner and a fax machine, that is essentially what you are doing. Of course, it's not realistic to simply wait around in the hopes that somebody will eventually upload the material that you are seeking, when it would be much simpler and easier to go to your local library and retrieve it.
Of course, your ability to have found ONE book on the internet doesn't say much of anything. I myself managed to find maybe two or three books online. The fact that you only found one from P2P suggests that there isn't much academic information available online.
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Then the rest I began to get these crazy thoughts, like I will social engineer them from the publishers, and with some success hit the brick wall of publishers wanting to ship free physical copies to my university office.
Yea... again, you are not truly obtaining any of the information from the internet. The internet simply made it faster and easier for you to anonymously obtain hardbook copies.
The fact that you had to jump through these hurdles to get these books tells me once more, that the internet is obviously lacking in scholarly material.
You obviously didn't understand what I meant when I said, "finding textbooks for free," because your post proved absolutely nothing about the internet. When I said find them for free, I did not mean committing fraud and then waiting days in the mail to obtain hardbook copies of textbooks, I meant getting easy access to a downloaded file with the information contained within it ONLINE.
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Re: Would you rather be an extremely rich person in 1960s or a middle-income person today? [Re: Crystal G]
#19255883 - 12/10/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Funny thing is when I was in college, I was actually able to lie and wrote emails pretending to be a professor to get the teachers manual (with all the answers) for many of the books for various courses out there.
Again, this boils down to not if the info is there, but the quality of it and how easily obtained it is.
Guys, go make your own thread.. Really. Topic: What is better, Library or Internet???
I'm going to make my own thread: "How to hi-jack a thread and be a know it all".
Edited by Moorning Due (12/10/13 03:17 PM)
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