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DarkPassenger
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Should I consolidate longer than a week?
#19241065 - 12/07/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey all! I have a couple jars out of the 10 that will more than likely finish before the rest. I wonder if I should start consolidating them when fully colonized or wait until the rest catch up to start consolidation? Im I hear its better if I have my SGFC full vs having one cake? I am unsure if waitinf for the others jars to catch up will hurt anything..thanks all!
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Re: Should I consolidate longer than a week? [Re: DarkPassenger]
#19241086 - 12/07/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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extra consolidation is great, 1 week is the minimum
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Re: Should I consolidate longer than a week? [Re: cronicr]
#19241119 - 12/07/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said: extra consolidation is great, 1 week is the minimum

3 days is all u need......u don't want them to start pinning before you even birth the cakes
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Re: Should I consolidate longer than a week? [Re: cronicr]
#19241125 - 12/07/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said: extra consolidation is great, 1 week is the minimum
Awesome! A cpl jars got a little more solution than I wanted to give so they are going to finish a cpl days ahead of their buddies. Extra consolidation it is! Thanks dude!
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Re: Should I consolidate longer than a week? [Re: bloodbrother778]
#19241134 - 12/07/13 02:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said: extra consolidation is great, 1 week is the minimum

3 days is all u need......u don't want them to start pinning before you even birth the cakes
Yeah I dont want that, I was debating putting the one cake in a the fc a cpl days before the others but I hear the fc works better works better full..hmmm!
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Re: Should I consolidate longer than a week? [Re: DarkPassenger]
#19241151 - 12/07/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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honestly it probably won't matter...
I've put fresh cakes in with ones that were already pinning, didn't change anything
I'd say if u really want to put everything in at once......just wait 3 days after ur last cake is fully colonized then throw them all in
or...just make another small fc for the faster cakes
not a big deal bro cakes don't produce all that much anyway i suggest going for mono tubs
my first cakes were super successful and i got maybe 1/2 oz total dry from a pint cake my first tub gave me 1/2 lb dry total......and that wasn't even all it could have produced cause i split the tub into two different strains and one of the strains turned out not to be that great of a producer
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Re: Should I consolidate longer than a week? [Re: bloodbrother778]
#19241154 - 12/07/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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bloodbrother778 said:
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cronicr said: extra consolidation is great, 1 week is the minimum

3 days is all u need......u don't want them to start pinning before you even birth the cakes
 patients bud, let it eat, just use the search bar, type consolidation, click the tc button
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Re: Should I consolidate longer than a week? [Re: cronicr]
#19241178 - 12/07/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said:
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bloodbrother778 said:
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cronicr said: extra consolidation is great, 1 week is the minimum

3 days is all u need......u don't want them to start pinning before you even birth the cakes
 patients bud, let it eat, just use the search bar, type consolidation, click the tc button
lol what have they been doing for the first 3 weeks then? consolidation is just to make sure that they grow all the way through.....which they mostly should have if everything went right
I had a friend who waited like 3 weeks after the cakes were fully colonized and they started pinning in the jar.......fucked his grow
u also don't want them to dry out so too long isn't good....i say a week is already too long
anyway i just really wanted to use that gif
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Re: Should I consolidate longer than a week? [Re: bloodbrother778]
#19241218 - 12/07/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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 no consolidation is the part where the mycelium gets time to digest it's meal properly, if it's colonized on the outside it is on the inside, just search it bro. and pins won't fuck a grow we see it all the time on here and cakes rarely ever dry out, and your dunking anyway. check your facts before callling my bs
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Re: Should I consolidate longer than a week? [Re: cronicr]
#19241336 - 12/07/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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ok i still disagree with super long consolidation
ive always gotten great results with only 3 day consolidation doing it for longer means you risk contams
my facts are my experience ive seen plenty of cakes start precipitating and proceed to shrivel up and dry out when left for too long after colonization
premature pins can easily fuck up a cake by triggering small pins to open their caps and start dropping spores before they finish growing.....
a week would probably be ok....but longer than that I wouldn't ever do myself
but if it works for you......then keep on keepin on, what can I say results speak for themselves
anyway we shouldn't confuse the young one.....lets just settle at a week and end it
Edited by bloodbrother778 (12/07/13 02:51 PM)
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Re: Should I consolidate longer than a week? [Re: bloodbrother778]
#19241352 - 12/07/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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bloodbrother778 said: ok i still disagree with super long consolidation
ive always gotten great results with only 3 day consolidation doing it for longer means you risk contams
no it doesn't, it reduces the risk if anything
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my facts are my experience ive seen plenty of cakes start precipitating and proceed to shrivel up and dry out when left for too long after colonization
they shrivel mostly due to the fact that they are being eatin not water loss
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premature pins can easily fuck up a cake by triggering small pins to open their caps and start dropping spores before they finish growing.....
10 foot pole on that one
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a week would probably be ok....but longer than that I wouldn't ever do myself
but if it works for you......then keep on keepin on, what can I say results speak for themselves
anyway we shouldn't confuse the young one.....lets just settle at a week and end it
no a week should be the minimum not just ok, you keep doing what your doing i'll keep advising that people do it right, do some research broski
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Re: Should I consolidate longer than a week? [Re: cronicr]
#19241375 - 12/07/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Consolidating BRF cakes for a week minimum is recommended, no matter what anyone thinks....the search function can back this up 10 fold.
Consolidation is the act of the mycellium digesting the highly nutritious substrate it has colonized.
And since BRF cakes are almost on the verge of being too nutritious, I would say at least a week is good....some people let them go for 2....some people(the trusted ones), seem to think that longer consolidation periods lead to more healthy and potent fruits.....
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Re: Should I consolidate longer than a week? [Re: cronicr]
#19241393 - 12/07/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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aight perhaps im wrong then
still like the gif XD
Edited by bloodbrother778 (12/07/13 03:06 PM)
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Re: Should I consolidate longer than a week? [Re: bloodbrother778]
#19241403 - 12/07/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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bloodbrother778 said: aight perhaps im wrong then
-trust us bro were not attacking you, were all on the same page here. live n learn right i love that gif 2
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Re: Should I consolidate longer than a week? [Re: PussyFart]
#19241449 - 12/07/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Notahacker420 said: Consolidating BRF cakes for a week minimum is recommended, no matter what anyone thinks....the search function can back this up 10 fold.
Consolidation is the act of the mycellium digesting the highly nutritious substrate it has colonized.
And since BRF cakes are almost on the verge of being too nutritious, I would say at least a week is good....some people let them go for 2....some people(the trusted ones), seem to think that longer consolidation periods lead to more healthy and potent fruits.....
Thanks brother! I think im doing good for day 12 of colonization almost all the sides are consumed and the bottoms are starting, this is pretty fun so far!
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Re: Should I consolidate longer than a week? [Re: DarkPassenger]
#19243319 - 12/08/13 01:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Here's what happened with mine haha
After about a week n a half of consolidation



This of course was awhile ago but none the less, the extra half of consolidation and I think too much light exposure triggered some pins 
Last pic is just to show my best cakes that round
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Re: Should I consolidate longer than a week? [Re: sharpshroomer98]
#19250179 - 12/09/13 01:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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sharpshroomer98 said: Here's what happened with mine haha
After about a week n a half of consolidation



This of course was awhile ago but none the less, the extra half of consolidation and I think too much light exposure triggered some pins 
Last pic is just to show my best cakes that round
it looks like they still produced some good fruits. Did you pick off the ones pinning in the jar after birthing? Also if I see pins should I still dunk?
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Re: Should I consolidate longer than a week? [Re: PussyFart]
#19250225 - 12/09/13 01:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Notahacker420 said: Consolidating BRF cakes for a week minimum is recommended, no matter what anyone thinks....the search function can back this up 10 fold.
Consolidation is the act of the mycellium digesting the highly nutritious substrate it has colonized.
And since BRF cakes are almost on the verge of being too nutritious, I would say at least a week is good....some people let them go for 2....some people(the trusted ones), seem to think that longer consolidation periods lead to more healthy and potent fruits.....
I notice some of my cakes starting to shrink/pull away from the sides, this is happening at about 75+% colonization, after some research it comes to find out its just the mycelium eating the BRF I will start my ONE WEEK consolidation tomorrow Thanks for your help everyone!
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Re: Should I consolidate longer than a week? [Re: DarkPassenger]
#19250232 - 12/09/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes they did
Yeah they kinda fell off, I chowed down the lil guys with no effects haha. And yes, even with pins always always always dunk your cakes. They need lotsa moisture to fruit from. A 24 hr dunk is recommended and that is what I did. If they float to the top put a plat or bowl with some water in it to weigh it down.
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Re: Should I consolidate longer than a week? [Re: sharpshroomer98]
#19250318 - 12/09/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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sharpshroomer98 said: Yes they did
Yeah they kinda fell off, I chowed down the lil guys with no effects haha. And yes, even with pins always always always dunk your cakes. They need lotsa moisture to fruit from. A 24 hr dunk is recommended and that is what I did. If they float to the top put a plat or bowl with some water in it to weigh it down.
Good luck! 
Awesome man! Thanks again! I cant wait to birth these bad boys! Im going to count down my one week as of tomorrow. I think the rest of the jars will be caught up by then. I hope I get some good looking fruits like you
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Re: Should I consolidate longer than a week? [Re: DarkPassenger]
#19250387 - 12/09/13 02:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I feel flattered but you should shoot for fruits like Franks, or Notahacker. I'm simply still a student of the mycology hobby.
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