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Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub
    #19240274 - 12/07/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So I accidentally tossed in a bacterial contamed jar when making this tub. When it started coming in there was a lot of fuZzy puffy areas. Eventually the fuzziness for most part subsided only to give way to a bunch of orange throughout tub. Not metabolites I don't think. As you can see surface looks funky. I looked at it a few days ago after having it in fruiting for 10 days or so for first time and it was riddled with primordia.  Prolly most I'd ever seen on any tubs I'd done prior. Well when I went out that day I must of left the door to the room open a crack n my dog pulled out the Polly on all my tubs. Sub surface dried out and the primordial basically disappeared. I misted to rehydrate the surface and it turned bluefish because of all the dead primordia.  I was pretty bummed. Although nowhere near as nice as it was looking before that mishap it's recovered nicely. Not sure if a lot of the primordial recovered or it just developed new but it's lookin good. Not sure what you can see in pics as I'm on my phone but when I get up close there are a ton more primordial and pins barely visible to naked eye poppin up.


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19240385 - 12/07/13 11:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If that was ms, I'd be cloning those clusters ASAP :thumbup: Not bad tho, you should see some nice fruits outta that.


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19240427 - 12/07/13 11:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

its an isolate.  for the most part anyway.  i made it from i think one or 2 transfers away from ms.  was my first attempt so i wouldnt necesarily call it a true isolate going forward.


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19240439 - 12/07/13 11:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If it was one or two transfers I would call that ms, and I would clone those clusters.


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19240447 - 12/07/13 11:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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If it was one or two transfers I would call that ms, and I would clone those clusters.




do you mean plucking a cluster and throwing on agar hole?  if so, couldnt i just as well wait for it to get a little bigger and clone one of the fruits off the cluster??


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19240541 - 12/07/13 11:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

No, personally I would wait maybe one more day, then carefully harvest the cluster. Then I would separate the individual pins from the cluster and try to take a sample from the cleaner area where the flesh had torn from seperating them. Some people just take the pins seperate them and toss em on the plate so the young fast growing mycelium would out grow any contams and then transfer from the leading edge to get a clean transfer. That would work as well.

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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19259423 - 12/11/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I opted to just let them grow for now. My temps are a tad lower and this variety seems to grow a lul slower however in my last tub the low temps made for some seriously dense fruits so the wait is worth it. Just snapped these.



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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19259612 - 12/11/13 11:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: PirateSwazey]
    #19259671 - 12/11/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Would have been a glorious tub if it weren't for the bacteria.  I would definitely pick the best looking fruit and transfer some myc meat onto agar before they all become infected with bacteria.


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: Cornelius Fudge]
    #19259692 - 12/11/13 11:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I looked at it a few days ago after having it in fruiting for 10 days or so for first time and it was riddled with primordia.  Prolly most I'd ever seen on any tubs I'd done prior.

I read a  post a moment ago where someone said they had half inch aerial myc on one of their tubs, and when they introduced FEA it matted down, and ended up having one of the biggest pinsets they had ever seen.


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: Cornelius Fudge]
    #19259883 - 12/11/13 12:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Would have been a glorious tub if it weren't for the bacteria.  I would definitely pick the best looking fruit and transfer some myc meat onto agar before they all become infected with bacteria.




Maybe I'm wrong but I was under the assumption fruits don't transmit contaminations. On the outside where exposed to open air sure the surface if a fruit can harbor a contam but was fairly certain the interior tissue should be aok. Correct me if I'm wrong.


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19259903 - 12/11/13 12:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Would have been a glorious tub if it weren't for the bacteria.  I would definitely pick the best looking fruit and transfer some myc meat onto agar before they all become infected with bacteria.




Maybe I'm wrong but I was under the assumption fruits don't transmit contaminations. On the outside where exposed to open air sure the surface if a fruit can harbor a contam but was fairly certain the interior tissue should be aok. Correct me if I'm wrong.



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Would have been a glorious tub if it weren't for the bacteria.  I would definitely pick the best looking fruit and transfer some myc meat onto agar before they all become infected with bacteria.




Maybe I'm wrong but I was under the assumption fruits don't transmit contaminations. On the outside where exposed to open air sure the surface if a fruit can harbor a contam but was fairly certain the interior tissue should be aok. Correct me if I'm wrong.




No you got it. That tub looks ok IMO, looks like you got pretty good colonization and some nice clusters.


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19259985 - 12/11/13 12:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Take a shower and you won't have so many bacteria problems, ya hippie!


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: PirateSwazey]
    #19260720 - 12/11/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Take a shower and you won't have so many bacteria problems, ya hippie!



that only works for hookers, nice job dp


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: cronicr]
    #19266829 - 12/12/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19266886 - 12/12/13 05:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: cronicr]
    #19266906 - 12/12/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19267000 - 12/12/13 05:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That'll feed ya for awhile.  :copypasta::willienelson:


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: grainbrain]
    #19267181 - 12/12/13 06:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Based on my experience with Albino A+, I'd say you might be getting your hands on 6-7oz dry!

What you should be doing right now is cloning one of the fruits from the clusters. The meaty, fast growing one with the pointy top on the left side of both pics 1 & 2 would be a good candidate. Yup, the one almost touching the wall.


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: etdxx]
    #19267195 - 12/12/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Based on my experience with Albino A+, I'd say you might be getting your hands on 6-7oz dry!

What you should be doing right now is cloning one of the fruits from the clusters. The meaty, fast growing one with the pointy top on the left side of both pics 1 & 2 would be a good candidate. Yup, the one almost touching the wall.



if i know dp i'm sure this isn't ms(actually it's an iso he already stated that) and cloning is pointless


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: cronicr]
    #19267776 - 12/12/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Based on my experience with Albino A+, I'd say you might be getting your hands on 6-7oz dry!

What you should be doing right now is cloning one of the fruits from the clusters. The meaty, fast growing one with the pointy top on the left side of both pics 1 & 2 would be a good candidate. Yup, the one almost touching the wall.



if i know dp i'm sure this isn't ms(actually it's an iso he already stated that) and cloning is pointless




i got 6.5 off my first tub with this batch. my previous two after that and before this, i didnt end up measuring weight bit it was no where near the first one.  i think it might of had to do with the fact that it got cold, and i was using my space heater, as my heat and fae source.  they were also in a small crawlspace from spawning to harvest.  whereas the first tub was colonized in better temperatures and was the only tub when i finally did put it into fruiting in the crawlspace.  i feel like they might of been fighting for fae when i had 3 tubs in there.

anyhoo, ive since moved them out of the crawlspace, as i found, my dehydrator produces sufficient heat and has no where near the effect on the electric meter.  space heater gets that baby spinning like a spinner. 

so i learned a hard lesson with the 2nd and third tub but, i still proly pulled out 1/2 to 3/4 lb between the both of them after 2 flushes. 

this one has been fruiting in a larger area with the heat source being my dehydrator, and a fan on in the room.  seemingly making a difference.  possibly might be better than the first tub at that.  if not a close tie.  we shall see.  first tub was impressive as well....
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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: cronicr]
    #19267809 - 12/12/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Based on my experience with Albino A+, I'd say you might be getting your hands on 6-7oz dry!

What you should be doing right now is cloning one of the fruits from the clusters. The meaty, fast growing one with the pointy top on the left side of both pics 1 & 2 would be a good candidate. Yup, the one almost touching the wall.



if i know dp i'm sure this isn't ms(actually it's an iso he already stated that) and cloning is pointless




Oops, I missed the factt hat its an AA+ iso - assumed it was MS.


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19267839 - 12/12/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

@DeadPhan - AA+, as my first bulk grow, has been quite a challenge. Seems like this particular variety could be slow during every phase of the grow - as a n00b, its difficult to really determine if it normally takes that long ie to pin & fruit or if its simply a characteristic of the strain and/or genetics. To make things worse, I have PE in fruiting conditions as we speak.

Ugh, these novelty grows are killing me. Working with agar to start new grows of Dancing Tiger (from Yunnan, China) and Tasmanian. Tried and proven.

But dude, even with the bacteria and mold, I realize these AA+ will still deliver. I had 4 tubs running, all ended up contam'ing and still yielded ~21oz on first flush.


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: etdxx]
    #19267861 - 12/12/13 08:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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@DeadPhan - AA+, as my first bulk grow, has been quite a challenge. Seems like this particular variety could be slow during every phase of the grow - as a n00b, its difficult to really determine if it normally takes that long ie to pin & fruit or if its simply a characteristic of the strain and/or genetics. To make things worse, I have PE in fruiting conditions as we speak.

Ugh, these novelty grows are killing me. Working with agar to start new grows of Dancing Tiger (from Yunnan, China) and Tasmanian. Tried and proven.

But dude, even with the bacteria and mold, I realize these AA+ will still deliver. I had 4 tubs running, all ended up contam'ing and still yielded ~21oz on first flush.




Without getting into strain discussion I noticed my MS AA+ grows were on average very slow colonizers. I do however have cultures of AA+ now that perform just fine and colonize in average to below average times. Always the benefit of agar.


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19267888 - 12/12/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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its an isolate.  for the most part anyway.  i made it from i think one or 2 transfers away from ms.  was my first attempt so i wouldnt necesarily call it a true isolate going forward.




Everyone keeps saying that it was an isolate but I have never been able to get a true isolate in one or two transfers unless it was from a fruit I cloned. From spores it should be more in the ballpark of 5-8 :shrug:

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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19267944 - 12/12/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i've done tons of work with AA+ and even when i get good colonizing they see to grow slow(the fruits) or at least slower then normal, and for some reason the veil always separates at the stipe and not the cap


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: cronicr]
    #19267963 - 12/12/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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i've done tons of work with AA+ and even when i get good colonizing they see to grow slow(the fruits) or at least slower then normal, and for some reason the veil always separates at the stipe and not the cap




yea AA+ is weird, I've had APE looking, normal looking, slightly odd looking, and ones with pigment all grow from different cultures/ms grows.

I'm assuming your avatar is AA+? mine is too, but the fruits look way different. I've had mine look like yours before though. Strange "Variety" indeed


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19267994 - 12/12/13 08:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yeah it was AA+, I've since been working on crossing it with other cubes to get the diffrent shaped caps and better prints(note the classic bell shape dp has) but i've only managed the better caps part so far and am yet to find one with both a classic cube look with a good printing ability


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: cronicr]
    #19268007 - 12/12/13 08:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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yeah it was AA+, I've since been working on crossing it with other cubes to get the diffrent shaped caps and better prints(note the classic bell shape dp has) but i've only managed the better caps part so far and am yet to find one with both a classic cube look with a good printing ability




I've never had much luck with my AA+ being good for printing either. Care to send me a PM sometime when you're not busy about your crossing efforts? I'm intrigued.

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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19268028 - 12/12/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

will do right in the am, i gotta be at my sab for awhile tonight


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    #19268041 - 12/12/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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will do right in the am, i gotta be at my sab for awhile tonight




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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: cronicr]
    #19268045 - 12/12/13 09:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Lookin great Jerry Garica :jah:

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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: PirateSwazey]
    #19269619 - 12/13/13 07:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Don't even know where to begin or how to go about harvesting this. Lol

Also.  Question. When takin a piece to agar, can I just grab a fruit from one of the nicer clusters and grab a sample from that or do I have to grab a sample from the bottom of the cluster where they all meet? 


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19269683 - 12/13/13 07:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This is only half of my biggest cluster.  I managed to get it out fairly well. Very lil sub with it. I'm not too concerned about cutting at base as I have a couple of tubs just behind this one and I just really wanted to get up a cluster in tact for shots and giggles if nothing else. So I gather I'll be cloning from this beast. Again, am I better off taking from a fruit of the base of the cluster?




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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19269831 - 12/13/13 08:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Just pick a fruit that will be easy to split in half. Take the tissue from the inside of the stem in your SAB that way you're getting tissue that's never been exposed to open air. Try to take a few tissue samples from a few different fruits just to increase your chances of getting some clean cultures right off the bat.

If I remember you said these were 1-2 transfers away from MS so I would assume most of those fruits are going to have the same genetics since it's been limited already.


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19269882 - 12/13/13 09:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

1-2 transfers from ms, is ms. Probably got your genetics down in the hundreds. I have never even seen sectoring from ms until I get down to the 4th-5th transfer. At that point it would still take a few more to see a monoculture IMO.


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19270112 - 12/13/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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    #19270141 - 12/13/13 10:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I swear, half the thing that keeps me coming back are the amazing gifs I get to see in this forum :lol:

But really, epic grow. And that mushy in your sig, is bigger then my forearm :discorex:


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19270197 - 12/13/13 10:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Great that it worked out even though it had bacterial contamination in the spawn.  The cubie myc took over.  U must have a good substrate and have prepared it correctly.


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: etdxx]
    #19293330 - 12/18/13 01:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Based on my experience with Albino A+, I'd say you might be getting your hands on 6-7oz dry!




'Twas 185 grams dry. You sir we're right on the nose!  :cheers:


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Re: Albino pin porn on a bacterially contamed sub [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19299148 - 12/19/13 05:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Based on my experience with Albino A+, I'd say you might be getting your hands on 6-7oz dry!




'Twas 185 grams dry. You sir we're right on the nose!  :cheers:




YES! Outstanding!

Nice grow, broski - the pinset was/is pretty amazing!


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