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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: Asante]
#19239810 - 12/07/13 08:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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phallic... *puff puff*
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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: Asante]
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solstice said: ... and as far as swastikas go, Jung had interesting things to say. For example, if the swastika is turning towards the right ( clockwise ), it suggests a movement towards consciousness, an affirmation of individual and personal egotism. If the swastika is turning towards the left, it would suggest a movement towards the unconscious, instinctual behavior and spiritual life.
interesting. i never heard of that before. 
Arguably Jung was giving himself a cigar from his own box as symbols have no meaning except the ones given to them.
Jung understood that was the meaning he was attributing to them. In other contexts, the gammadion represents luck, prosperity, hope, growth, and intellectual activity.
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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: Middleman]
#19239827 - 12/07/13 08:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i like that name better.
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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: akira_akuma]
#19239828 - 12/07/13 08:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: phallic... *puff puff*
Phallic pleasures are the best Akira
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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: Middleman]
#19239833 - 12/07/13 08:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's like saying the rainbow meams gay or jesus promise to not flood the earth. Anyone who says that is retarded, its clearly a symbol of acid culture.
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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: Asante]
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akira_akuma said: phallic... *puff puff*
Phallic pleasures are the best Akira 
something goes into nothing, and nothing likes something... 

look, mummified penis!1
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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: akira_akuma]
#19239867 - 12/07/13 08:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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What do people think the nazi's would have chosen for a symbol? The fucking devil? I mean they are evil, but in their eyes they're the good guy, it kind of makes sense that they'd choose a symbol of good luck.
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The favorite disguise of Evil is to present itself as Good.
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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: Asante] 2
#19239876 - 12/07/13 08:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Good and evil is for kids.
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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: Middleman]
#19239886 - 12/07/13 08:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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No its for people with a robustly developed sense of right and wrong.
Animals are neutral, we have to take sides.
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LuSiD enthusiast said: What do people think the nazi's would have chosen for a symbol? The fucking devil? I mean they are evil, but in their eyes they're the good guy, it kind of makes sense that they'd choose a symbol of good luck.
LOL 
but yeah, you're right.
which is why it should be dumbfuckin' obvious to EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING PERIOD that you shouldn't look at is if the fuckin' thing "means NAZI"
seriously, the whole concept of the ignorance of this issue pisses me off how can be people be so stupid?
it means... naz-- i bet there is a bunch of people right now, on Earth who think the fuckin' thing means "nazi".
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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: Middleman]
#19239893 - 12/07/13 08:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rev. Morton said: Good and evil is for kids.
+1 for the heresy.
Unless you can love war and violence for the perfection they are as much as you love a beautiful sunset, or inspiring music, or the touch of a woman's skin that love becomes conditional, not unconditional and acts just like any other belief filter such as hate on the psyche.
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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: Asante]
#19239899 - 12/07/13 08:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Animals are neutral, we have to take sides.
Humans are animals, every bit as much a part of the animal kingdom as a rabbit or a lion, or a horse and we are the most brutal animals of all too much more than the four legged kind because we are one of the few animals that preys on itself.
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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: Ellis Dee]
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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: Ellis Dee]
#19239906 - 12/07/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rev. Morton said: Good and evil is for kids.
+1 for the heresy.
Unless you can love war and violence for the perfection they are as much as you love a beautiful sunset, or inspiring music, or the touch of a woman's skin that love becomes conditional, not unconditional and acts just like any other belief filter such as hate on the psyche.
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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: KremrBigSikter]
#19239916 - 12/07/13 08:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shhhhh! The kids are still sleeping.
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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: Ellis Dee]
#19239917 - 12/07/13 08:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah, but you understand, he means that since Humans do act as they do... with a sense of morality... that that makes it possible to side with one or the other (good or evil), right?
and that he's saying that good is obviously better then evil, at the rate we've established both concepts, in this Human civilization.
compare good and bad. good got you things, and bad is destructive and hurts people.
things have been done in the past, to assure several "peoples" their survival and their freedom. alot of those things were evil... hell, alot of the evil shit back then was senseless things that we never needed... but i digress, there has to be some point at which we draw the line as a species, of what's allowed and what shouldn't be allowed.
because we've grown up, we've got a "sense" of a 'freedom' and we've got our lives. now wouldn't you value your life, or your families lives, or your belongings?
if something were to upset this balance, wouldn't you find it "wrong" "upsetting" "evil"?
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funny that
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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: akira_akuma]
#19239936 - 12/07/13 08:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Read some God-damned Nietzsche.
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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: Middleman]
#19239938 - 12/07/13 09:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i plan on it. i'm gonna get the Divine Comedy first, though.
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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: akira_akuma]
#19239939 - 12/07/13 09:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: yeah, but you understand, he means that since Humans do act as they do... with a sense of morality... that that makes it possible to side with one or the other (good or evil), right?
and that he's saying that good is obviously better then evil, at the rate we've established both concepts, in this Human civilization.
compare good and bad. good got you things, and bad is destructive and hurts people.
things have been done in the past, to assure several "peoples" their survival and their freedom. alot of those things were evil... hell, alot of the evil shit back then was senseless things that we never needed... but i digress, there has to be some point at which we draw the line as a species, of what's allowed and what shouldn't be allowed.
because we've grown up, we've got a "sense" of a 'freedom' and we've got our lives. now wouldn't you value your life, or your families lives, or your belongings?
if something were to upset this balance, wouldn't you find it "wrong" "upsetting" "evil"?
No I can't agree so I must be a low grade moron.
No. It seems to me that everything called good or evil is merely perception through belief filters. Every advancement we take for granted is the result of war and war technology. Every time the phoenix that is human civilization rises from the ashes it is stronger, and bigger, and more brightly colored. This was true when our ancestors with bronze swords hacked up those with mere copper swords and its true now with our drone planes and surgical strikes on those iron sword weilding barbarous tribes over there.
And now... We humans, us homo sapiens are no longer animals, for we are at the peak of civilization with our hydrogen bombs and striped toothpaste and internet all thanks to our animal ancestors who used to do things like fight wars and mate. No we homo sapiens no longer are animals anymore because we have invented religion and have souls too!
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