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akad0
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Yet another Heat Blanket Thread
#19239853 - 12/07/13 08:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey guys, nice to find this nice community of shroom enthusiasts! I'm a noob on growing mushrooms but couldn't resist since I tried my first shrooms last year. So I bought some grow kits online (I know they are expensive, but I didn't have the equipment to make my own jars). They arrived on 4/12 and I followed the directions let them soak etc.... The thing is I'm using a heat blanket to keep a stable temperature how safe is that in terms of my shrooms survive?I have them in a room which the room temp is 13-15 celcius (it's cold around here) So I though I could use my heat blanket to make them grow faster.I put the electric blanket on a bed I don't use folded I also put a piece of cardboard on top and left the shrooms in their's cardboard box with the lid on the bottom. I use an electronic thermometer to measure the temp which is usually around 17-22 around the kits. So what's your advice? Thanks in advance! P.S - Keep in mind I'm a noob and sorry if I posted in the wrong section
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Re: Yet another Heat Blanket Thread [Re: akad0]
#19239991 - 12/07/13 09:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Get rid of the heating pad.
Jars/bags/tubs/trays should colonize @ room temperature getting ambient/indirect light.
Main pinning triggers are full colonization, FAE and Evaporation off of the substrate.
Light is a secondary pinning trigger. For tropical species temperature is not a pinning factor.
P. Cubensis are a tropical species. You could colonize at 70F and fruit at 80F with great results.
Light has been proven beneficial during all stages of mycellium growth. Mushrooms like mammals have a circadian rhythm.
You want ambient/indirect light(on a 12/12 schedule preferably) for colonization and consolidation.
You want direct/intense 6500K light on a 12/12 schedule for fruiting.
Optimal temps are mid 70s throughout the whole grow, but anywhere from 65F-80F is acceptable.
Incubation is outdated/uneeded unless temps in the range stated above cannot be kept.
The inside of the jar is always a few degrees warmer than the outside because the mycellium produces heat..mycellium tends to stall at temps above 86F , and contams thrive.
Fruiting at cooler temps tends to produce denser, meatier fruits, while fruiting at higher temps will often produce hollow, less dense stems.
Mycelium should be exposed to ambient room light from day of inoculation as has been known for many years. Light is not a pinning trigger until after full colonization and an increase in air is given, and even then it's a secondary pinning trigger. RR
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Re: Yet another Heat Blanket Thread [Re: akad0]
#19240003 - 12/07/13 09:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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All the suggestions I see are against any direct incubation, but 15C is pretty chilly (59F).
If it were *me*, (and I have used a heating mat to maintain temperatures before), I make sure that I don't use direct contact with my heating mat. I keep a few layers of corrugated cardboard between the mat and my jars to keep from overheating and drying/damaging the bottom. Monitor temperature and don't let things exceed the mid to upper 70s (Fahrenheit). Once things start showing signs of decent growth, I'll remove the heat source since the myc tends to provide it's own warmth once things are moving along.
Again, still a new cultivator here, so that's just one guy's experience.
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Re: Yet another Heat Blanket Thread [Re: CliftonGK1]
#19240023 - 12/07/13 09:30 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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60F is fine.....but incubating at a slightly higher temp is fine as well.....just don't incubate higher than 80F.
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Re: Yet another Heat Blanket Thread [Re: PussyFart]
#19240078 - 12/07/13 09:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Notahacker420 said: Get rid of the heating pad.
Jars/bags/tubs/trays should colonize @ room temperature getting ambient/indirect light.
Main pinning triggers are full colonization, FAE and Evaporation off of the substrate.
Light is a secondary pinning trigger. For tropical species temperature is not a pinning factor.
P. Cubensis are a tropical species. You could colonize at 70F and fruit at 80F with great results.
Light has been proven beneficial during all stages of mycellium growth. Mushrooms like mammals have a circadian rhythm.
You want ambient/indirect light(on a 12/12 schedule preferably) for colonization and consolidation.
You want direct/intense 6500K light on a 12/12 schedule for fruiting.
Optimal temps are mid 70s throughout the whole grow, but anywhere from 65F-80F is acceptable.
Incubation is outdated/uneeded unless temps in the range stated above cannot be kept.
The inside of the jar is always a few degrees warmer than the outside because the mycellium produces heat..mycellium tends to stall at temps above 86F , and contams thrive.
Fruiting at cooler temps tends to produce denser, meatier fruits, while fruiting at higher temps will often produce hollow, less dense stems.
Mycelium should be exposed to ambient room light from day of inoculation as has been known for many years. Light is not a pinning trigger until after full colonization and an increase in air is given, and even then it's a secondary pinning trigger. RR
I've read this all over the forums again and again but keep in mind I'm trying to grow mushroom in december with the temp getting below 5-10 degrees celcius on the outside, 12-15 on the inside the electric blanket seemed a good idea. I've placed the kits in their cardboard boxes on the top of the blanket and left it on and off for about 6-8 hours the first 2-3 days I hope I didn't mesh up my harvest.
I decided to put the extra piece of cardboard box on top of the blanket for extra protection.Keep in mind I the growkits didn't have direct contact with the heat blanket as I soaked them for 12 hours and then put them back in their boxes and put them on top of the heating blanket. Is there any chance my growkits aren't good any more?
Thank you again for your replies
Edited by akad0 (12/07/13 09:42 AM)
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Re: Yet another Heat Blanket Thread [Re: akad0]
#19240101 - 12/07/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I understand it's winter, but your home is heated correct?
If you are comfortable then so are they, this is all I was getting at.
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Re: Yet another Heat Blanket Thread [Re: PussyFart]
#19240136 - 12/07/13 09:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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No I'm currently a student and I live in a big house alone so I just have a small heating device in my room (which I can't put my shrooms ). I have my shrooms in another room which is not heated at all like the rest of the house. Dunno if I should keep the blanket or keep it or even if my shrooms are ok and I haven't destroyed the process with the heating blanket. My electronic thermometer shows 18-20 C or 64 - 70 F if you prefer next to the kits and the humidity level is around 40% - 50% inside the room Thank you all for your fast replies, great community
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Re: Yet another Heat Blanket Thread [Re: akad0]
#19240351 - 12/07/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alright, since no one has mentioned this...
A heat blanket is very unsafe to use for this purpose. They are designed to be used for a few hours at a time, and not on a daily basis. Heat blankets have been known to cause electrical fires when used for extended periods of time. There have been many threads about this.
OP, look into a TiT incubator. People have been using them for years. I have used one myself during both winters that I have been growing. Frank has a good tek on how to make one.
Best luck
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