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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: Thulean]
    #19239558 - 12/07/13 04:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Swastika is just a sun symbol. And lol at all the people in here clinging to the "nazi's were bad" lies propagated by Jews.





Your posts are just terrible, I wish you'd just go away, even your name is sickening.


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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: Constantine] * 3
    #19239560 - 12/07/13 05:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)




Apparently we still have the swastika in our presidential flag& Air Force Academy's flag


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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: Thulean]
    #19239591 - 12/07/13 05:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Swastika is just a sun symbol. And lol at all the people in here clinging to the "nazi's were bad" lies propagated by Jews.



the people that the Nazi's tried to wipe off the face of the planet... can't say i blame them for propagating.

you're a fucked up individual. (before you call me a fool or a "jew lover"; just thought you should know how fucked you seem to be.)

:archiebunker:

i'd love to hear the explanation on why the Nazi's were "good" and why "jews are bad"; and without this sanctimonious "look on the internet broo it's all there" type answer... naw, there are TONS of sources and articles and NOT all of them are relevant or important to my understanding what you're trying to say...

i need to hear it from you, go ahead. give it your best shot. i need to know how "nazi's are good and jews are bad".

tell me.


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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika *DELETED* [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19239605 - 12/07/13 05:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

After capturing all the Midianite women and children, God commands Moses to kill the women and the male children and to "keep the virgin girls alive for yourselves." Moses then proceeds to offer 32 of the 32,000 virgin girls to God as a "tribute." We know from Leviticus 27:29 that these 32 girls would not be allowed to stay alive but were offered as a heave offering (burnt on the sacrificial altar) to the Lord. - Numbers 31:17-18,40-41

The way I see it Jews and NAZIs are roughly equal in badness, with a slight edge to the Jews for merely raping the young virgin girls and murdering a portion of them in sacrafice, rather than just murdering all of them. But then again the NAZIs did leave overall more survivors so its tough to judge this one.


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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #19239606 - 12/07/13 05:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

In the bigger scheme of things...does it really even matter?


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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: OldHam]
    #19239610 - 12/07/13 05:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The swastika is a pretty sacred symbol and many people still understand that.. it's just upsetting that the Nazis butchered it.

Truly, it doesn't really matter what other people think as long as you stay true to its rootal meanings.


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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: DirtyTomFlint] * 1
    #19239646 - 12/07/13 06:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'll never understand everyone's problem with Nazis.


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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika *DELETED* [Re: Ellis Dee] * 6
    #19239648 - 12/07/13 06:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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After capturing all the Midianite women and children, God commands Moses to kill the women and the male children and to "keep the virgin girls alive for yourselves." Moses then proceeds to offer 32 of the 32,000 virgin girls to God as a "tribute." We know from Leviticus 27:29 that these 32 girls would not be allowed to stay alive but were offered as a heave offering (burnt on the sacrificial altar) to the Lord. - Numbers 31:17-18,40-41

The way I see it Jews and NAZIs are roughly equal in badness, with a slight edge to the Jews for merely raping the young virgin girls and murdering a portion of them in sacrafice, rather than just murdering all of them. But then again the NAZIs did leave overall more survivors so its tough to judge this one.





No you can't do it like that.

The Bible story is three thousand year old lore that may or may not have happened that way and the Nazis were 20st century. 3000 years ago the germanic people had slaves too and burnt the wife with the deceased husband and more such prose.

The jews as a people werent doing much of anything sinister, just trying to stay alive in hostile lands, when Hitler whipped up an antisemitic frenzy and the subsequent holocaust. Sure there were some crooked jewish businessmen but thats the nature of business, you can't blame that on the jewish people anymore that you can blame the actions of Ted Bundy and John Gacy on all americans.

The vast majority of jews were just trying to make ends meet in a hostile climate, they were innocent victims of the crimes of hate committed against them.

Using 3000 year old hearsay about Mozes to say jews were as bad as the nazis is poppycock and dishonest argumentation. You might as well blame all women for eating the Apple of Knowledge that allegedly got us all kicked out of Paradise.


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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika *DELETED* [Re: Asante]
    #19239652 - 12/07/13 06:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

>>>>The Bible story is three thousand year old lore that may or may not have happened that way and the Nazis were 20st century. 3000 years ago the germanic people had slaves too and burnt the wife with the deceased husband and more such prose.

Time is as they say relative. I've often thought that there isn't much difference and that all nations are bad. FDR had Japanese in camps for instance. At least in my mind the only difference between Adold Hitler, FDR, and Moses is that Moses and FDR won their wars. The winners as they say write the history books, even if they are 3000 years old.


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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika *DELETED* [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #19239661 - 12/07/13 06:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I've often thought that there isn't much difference and that all nations are bad.




Except the jews werent a nation then, they were a nationless people on the run, oppressed all across the globe.


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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika *DELETED* [Re: Asante]
    #19239676 - 12/07/13 06:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I've often thought that there isn't much difference and that all nations are bad.




Except the jews werent a nation then, they were a nationless people on the run, oppressed all across the globe.



I read the Bible and as much as they enjoy pretending to be victims they were usually the victimizers in the stories I read, invasion of the area they called the promised land, mass murders, convert or die, etc. And then every so often when they get beat they blame themselves for failing their bloody tribal god and deserving for him to turn his back on his people. Its really what they believed in those days. Capture the flag is still the main international contest in that part of the world and they still blame their triumphs and defeats on their dieties. We're an absurd species, us homo sapiens, thinking we're not part of the animal kingdom and then acting like the most savage beasts of all.


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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika *DELETED* [Re: Asante]
    #19239677 - 12/07/13 06:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

... and as far as swastikas go, Jung had interesting things to say. For example, if the swastika is turning towards the right ( clockwise ), it suggests a movement towards consciousness, an affirmation of individual and personal egotism. If the swastika is turning towards the left, it would suggest a movement towards the unconscious, instinctual behavior and spiritual life.


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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika *DELETED* [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #19239681 - 12/07/13 06:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think this sums up what Wiccan Seeker is trying to say:

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I read the Bible and as much as they enjoy pretending to be victims they were usually the victimizers in the stories I read




Keyword here: Story.

What the nazis did can be verified. What Moses and the jews of old the bible says they did: we cannot.

End of argument. Back to swastikas. :grin:


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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: Constantine]
    #19239682 - 12/07/13 06:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Swastika is just a sun symbol. And lol at all the people in here clinging to the "nazi's were bad" lies propagated by Jews.





Your posts are just terrible, I wish you'd just go away, even your name is sickening.




Thule is just the ancient greek term for northern europe, it's a neutral word.

As for the guy himself, I'm guessing a sock puppet who +1s himself from his real account.


Let's put some more swastikas up in this, and less old "horrible nazis vs. innocent jews" talk.



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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: KremrBigSikter]
    #19239685 - 12/07/13 06:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Constantine said:
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Thulean said:
Swastika is just a sun symbol. And lol at all the people in here clinging to the "nazi's were bad" lies propagated by Jews.





Your posts are just terrible, I wish you'd just go away, even your name is sickening.




Thule is just the ancient greek term for northern europe, it's a neutral word.





Read some of his posts, it's pretty clear his name is a reference to the Thule Society (which is far from being neutral). But I agree, most likely a puppet/troll.


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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #19239722 - 12/07/13 07:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I'll never understand everyone's problem with Nazis.



i have a problem with Nazi sympathizers.

after reading about this Thule shit, a bit, i mean... it's got soem really interesting symbology... and structure.

but... it's inherent philosophy can't have genocide of a singular race in mind... and if it did, like Hitler did... then i find it disgusting in that case, because in this day and age... all over the world understand that that amount of suffering... is terrible. even plenty of Nazi's were reeling from the perception of the suffering they caused...

Nazi's sympathizers are pretty sick and twisted people.

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... and as far as swastikas go, Jung had interesting things to say. For example, if the swastika is turning towards the right ( clockwise ), it suggests a movement towards consciousness, an affirmation of individual and personal egotism. If the swastika is turning towards the left, it would suggest a movement towards the unconscious, instinctual behavior and spiritual life.



interesting. i never heard of that before. :yesnod:


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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19239760 - 12/07/13 07:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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... and as far as swastikas go, Jung had interesting things to say. For example, if the swastika is turning towards the right ( clockwise ), it suggests a movement towards consciousness, an affirmation of individual and personal egotism. If the swastika is turning towards the left, it would suggest a movement towards the unconscious, instinctual behavior and spiritual life.



interesting. i never heard of that before. :yesnod:





Arguably Jung was giving himself a cigar from his own box as symbols have no meaning except the ones given to them.


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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: Asante]
    #19239776 - 12/07/13 07:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That's Freud Dude.

Btw, wouldn't unconscious, instinctual behaviour be very egotistical? The me-now survival trip is one of the most fundamental things we are programmed with, no?


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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: Asante]
    #19239792 - 12/07/13 07:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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... and as far as swastikas go, Jung had interesting things to say. For example, if the swastika is turning towards the right ( clockwise ), it suggests a movement towards consciousness, an affirmation of individual and personal egotism. If the swastika is turning towards the left, it would suggest a movement towards the unconscious, instinctual behavior and spiritual life.



interesting. i never heard of that before. :yesnod:





Arguably Jung was giving himself a cigar from his own box as symbols have no meaning except the ones given to them.



yeah, but... that's what makes a symbol... a symbol.


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Re: Misunderstood meaning of the Swastika [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19239807 - 12/07/13 08:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

*hands you a cigar*


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