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Living in the jungle . . .
#19239019 - 12/06/13 11:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Could you ever see yourself living in the jungle surviving off the land basically?
It seems crazy to me that people still live like that but I don't think other places should interfer with tribes like these, though it does kind of seem other worldly I think, that people are in remote places like that without not just electronics but they barely even have any clothing there. The tribe in this video seem to have a potent psychedelic type drug there too...
Edited by skatealex2 (12/06/13 11:45 PM)
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Re: Living in the jungle . . . [Re: skatealex2]
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Re: Living in the jungle . . . [Re: skatealex2] 1
#19239106 - 12/06/13 11:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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though it does kind of seem other worldly I think, that people are in remote places like that without not just electronics but they barely even have any clothing there
No. What is other worldly is all the crazy technology that we use. Cell phones, computers, cars, planes, the interfuckingnet . . . All of the crazy clothes and fashion trends that people follow . . .
Now to me, all that crazy shit is other worldly. A tribe living quietly and symbiotically off of the land is as worldly as it gets. If every one on the planet lived like that than the world would have a lot less problems.
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Re: Living in the jungle . . . [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19239160 - 12/07/13 12:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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though it does kind of seem other worldly I think, that people are in remote places like that without not just electronics but they barely even have any clothing there
No. What is other worldly is all the crazy technology that we use. Cell phones, computers, cars, planes, the interfuckingnet . . . All of the crazy clothes and fashion trends that people follow . . .
Now to me, all that crazy shit is other worldly. A tribe living quietly and symbiotically off of the land is as worldly as it gets. If every one on the planet lived like that than the world would have a lot less problems.
Hear that but what about the tribes killing off kids cause they're disabled? Or committing suicide at age 30 to be reunited in heaven with old friends/family? Seems a bit out dated there.
Also I imagine there must be so much diseases to walk around naked like that in the woods.
Edited by skatealex2 (12/07/13 12:09 AM)
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Re: Living in the jungle . . . [Re: skatealex2]
#19239168 - 12/07/13 12:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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skatealex2 said: Also I imagine there must be so much diseases to walk around naked like that in the woods.
Actually, the vast majority of disease is caused by agricultural practices (specifically pastoralism) and urban living.
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I mean disease that can come from bugs like ticks and fleas. At least if they wore some shoes and clothes it could make those less likely to get.
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Re: Living in the jungle . . . [Re: skatealex2]
#19239265 - 12/07/13 12:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hear that but what about the tribes killing off kids cause they're disabled? Or committing suicide at age 30 to be reunited in heaven with old friends/family? Seems a bit out dated there.
Also I imagine there must be so much diseases to walk around naked like that in the woods.
I see your point and that is why I said it would have less problems. Of course there would still be problems. Nature is pretty damned good at what it does following the laws of physics and codes of sacred geometry and all that, but it is not perfect. Even nature messes up sometimes.
That being said, I am not really saying we should all be living like that. I do enjoy the comforts of technology and would not volunteer to give it up, but life would be much simpler living of the land like that.
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Re: Living in the jungle . . . [Re: skatealex2]
#19239313 - 12/07/13 01:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not really, ticks and flies are quite proficient at getting under our clothing for a quick chomp--the body louse, for example, has evolved to the point where human clothing is its natural environment, not fur or hair or skin--clothes. If anything, being naked would make it easier to spot the tick earlier--most people who gets ticks often only discover them at the end of the day when they disrobe.
To put it into perspective, if we put you in the jungle and a tribal native in your room--the native is infinitely more likely to die of an infectious disease than you are.
Malaria and lyme disease are bad, mmm'kay--but they ain't got nothing on small pox, the bubonic plague, and influenza--which were all caused by the agricultural process (namely, urbanization and domestication).
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Hear that. According to Wiki tho many of those diseases actually came from Native American's living in those types of conditions.
There don't seem to be too many of those tribes left especially in comparison to modern culture. Also I agree there are so many health issues with modern society not to mention all the radiation around everything now with cellphones, laptops, gmos in food and pollution, etc.... but it still doesn't seem healthy to be naked on a island all day and night. Maybe they have some rituals to get rid of mosquitos, who knows.
"Numerous other diseases were brought to Native American tribes, including measles, scarlet fever, typhoid, typhus, influenza, pertussis (whooping cough), tuberculosis, cholera, diphtheria, chickenpox and sexually transmitted diseases.[3] Including syphilis, which was originally thought to be endemic in the Americas, but recent scientific research has now shown it originated in Europe. Each of these diseases brought destruction through sweeping epidemics, involving illness and extensive death. Many Native American tribes experienced extensive depopulation, averaging 25–50 percent of tribal life lost due to disease. Additionally, singular tribes also neared extinction after facing severely destructive spread of disease.[3] The significant toll that this took on Native populations is expounded upon in the article Population history of indigenous peoples of the Americas.
Certain cultural and biological traits made Native Americans more susceptible to these diseases. Emphasis placed on visiting the sick led to the spread of disease through consistent contact.[4] Smallpox specifically led indirectly to higher rates of suicide. Many Native American tribes prided themselves in their appearance, and the resulting skin disfigurement of smallpox deeply affected them psychologically. Unable to cope with this psychological development, tribe members were said to have committed suicide.[5]
Native Americans first exposed to these diseases also had a unique approach to illness, relating primarily to religious beliefs. There is the belief that disease is cause by either a lack of charm use, an intrusion of an object by means of sorcery, or the free soul's absence from the body. Disease was understood to enter the body if one is not protected by the spirits, as it is a natural occurrence. Religious powers were believed to be related to curing diseases as well.[6] Native American illness has been treated through the practice of shamanism in the past, though this decreased as the influence of Europeans increased." -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_disease_and_epidemics
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Re: Living in the jungle . . . [Re: skatealex2]
#19239348 - 12/07/13 01:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i'd love to just live off the land
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