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Dr. Oz Brings Reefer Madness Back to Daytime Television
    #19236788 - 12/06/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

December 6, 2013 - By Amanda Reiman

This week, Dr. Oz had a segment on his show about cannabis, asking the question, is it addictive?

However, in an effort to get to the answer, the doctor created a circus of images and animations, and very little actual talk about science and outcomes. But, what else can we expect from daytime TV? Dr. Oz showed his allegiance to propaganda by continuing to ask questions that we have answers to: Is long term cannabis use harmful? Is cannabis addictive? Is cannabis a gateway drug? Is long-term cannabis use harmful?

To illustrate this point, Dr. Oz presented animated pictures of the lungs and brain as proof of long term harms, however, a 2012 study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association examined a sample of over 5000 adults over 20 years and assessed the impact of smoking cannabis on lung functioning.

The authors concluded, “Occasional and low cumulative cannabis use was not associated with adverse effects on pulmonary function.” Furthermore, Dr. Oz failed to mention the many alternatives to smoking cannabis, alternatives that will become more widely available under regulation rather than prohibition.

Is cannabis addictive? According to Dr. Paula Riggs, who appeared on the Dr. Oz show as the voice of warning around cannabis, about 1 in 11 regular cannabis users will experience symptoms of addiction, namely, withdrawals and a persistent desire to use despite negatives life outcomes.

The other guest was neuroscientist Dr. Carl Hart who astutely asked the audience, “How many of you do caffeine?” Indeed, most of the audience applauded. He then asked, what would happen if you did not use it? You would get a headache. The point is, physical dependence on a substance is common in our society, and we accept it.

Physical dependence on sugar, caffeine, nicotine, Ambien, Vicodin is considered part of life for adults who choose to or need to consume these substances. We accept the chance of addiction as a risk we are willing to take to enjoy coffee, or find pain relief from Vicodin. Dr. Hart framed it perfectly when he said that ANY activity that prevents someone from living their life to its fullest can be of concern, chemical or not.

Is cannabis a gateway drug? Here is what we know: yes, most people who try heroin have tried cannabis previously. This is NOT because cannabis use makes you want to try heroin. It’s because cannabis is more readily available and socially acceptable. Most people who try heroin have also tried alcohol, caffeine and nicotine.

And, as Dr. Oz himself stated, there are 19 million Americans who use cannabis on a regular basis, so why is the number of those who use heroin so much lower? In 2012, about 335,000 people reported heroin use in the past month.

Dr. Oz seemed to think that cannabis use inevitably leads to harder drug use, and, his attempt to present the brain of an older person with a history of harder drug use as a certainty for “young innocent” cannabis users was just plain bizarre.

Dr. Oz presented this information in usual dramatic style and then closed with the argument that pervades rational discussion of cannabis regulation: the children. Framing cannabis as a neurotoxic agent destroying adolescent brains is a common framework for prohibitionists to rail against cannabis regulation.

But, here’s the rub. No one in the movement to end cannabis prohibition supports use by young people, unless under the close care of a doctor. And, most of us in this movement believe that heavy cannabis use by minors is an indicator of deeper issues.

We also know that, under prohibition, cannabis is easily obtained by young people with little oversight. Under cannabis regulation, young people must show proof of age to obtain it, and money from tax revenue goes to youth education and prevention. Quite plainly Dr. Oz, if you want to keep cannabis out of the hands of young people, as most of us do, the answer is regulation, NOT prohibition.

As society continues to evolve on this issue, we will likely see more mainstream characters examine these changing policies. As an public much more informed than those in the 1930’s, it is up to us to prevent the propaganda from stalling progress and to share our experiences and voices, and if you read the comments on the Dr. Oz web page on this issue, you will see that we have found the antidote for reefer madness: truth, experience, science and platform.

Amanda Reiman is the California policy manager for the Drug Policy Alliance.

http://www.drugpolicy.org/blog/dr-oz-brings-reefer-madness-back-daytime-television


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Re: Dr. Oz Brings Reefer Madness Back to Daytime Television [Re: Simplepowa] * 5
    #19237010 - 12/06/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well what do you expect? The demographics for those dickhead shows are the bed-ridden, right wing soccer moms, and brood-mare housewives. Ever wonder why they're shown on the lineup with soap operas? They are soap operas. Soap operas require zero capacity for thought and are only really geared towards consumerist propaganda. If you want real medical news, check out a legitimate news source, or better yet, go talk to patients and get the real scoop. There's a damn good reason that the only thing I watch on the basic cable channels is sports...all of the rest is BULLSHIT!


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Re: Dr. Oz Brings Reefer Madness Back to Daytime Television [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
    #19237037 - 12/06/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Well what do you expect? The demographics for those dickhead shows are the bed-ridden, right wing soccer moms, and brood-mare housewives. Ever wonder why they're shown on the lineup with soap operas? They are soap operas. Soap operas require zero capacity for thought and are only really geared towards consumerist propaganda. If you want real medical news, check out a legitimate news source, or better yet, go talk to patients and get the real scoop. There's a damn good reason that the only thing I watch on the basic cable channels is sports...all of the rest is BULLSHIT!



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Re: Dr. Oz Brings Reefer Madness Back to Daytime Television [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #19237270 - 12/06/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Did anyone actually watch it? The female, Dr. Riggs or something or other, was acting very strangely. Look at her face when she's listening to Dr. Hart in the third video. It's quite odd.


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Re: Dr. Oz Brings Reefer Madness Back to Daytime Television [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
    #19237513 - 12/06/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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There's a damn good reason that the only thing I watch on the basic cable channels is sports...all of the rest is BULLSHIT!





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Re: Dr. Oz Brings Reefer Madness Back to Daytime Television [Re: Jesus Cristo]
    #19237671 - 12/06/13 05:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Dr. Oz Brings Reefer Madness Back to Daytime Television [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
    #19237716 - 12/06/13 05:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

He's gonna get a lot of shit for that. Maybe he will do a retraction like Dr. Sanjay Gupta did. I think CNN made him. Maybe Oz's stupid bias ass show will get cancelled now


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Re: Dr. Oz Brings Reefer Madness Back to Daytime Television [Re: Hashbuble] * 1
    #19237908 - 12/06/13 06:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Dr. Oz is just a product placement show for old ladies. They listen to his trash then go buy whatever he is promoting.


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Re: Dr. Oz Brings Reefer Madness Back to Daytime Television [Re: Durin]
    #19238109 - 12/06/13 07:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not sure what came first - the episode, the comments on the episode, or this blog post, but this is what Dr. Oz wrote on his blog about weed. He seems to support medical marijuana but not recreational marijuana. (for that matter I seem not to support Dr. Oz :tongue:)

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"Dr." Oz said:
Today’s show on marijuana is a response to a drastically changing reality with respect to how our society is perceiving and consuming marijuana. While the discussion of medical marijuana has burned for years and was covered in prior programs, the passage of new laws in Colorado and Washington are the beginning of a new normal in the American outlook on marijuana.

My kids will know a completely different world than I knew with regards to marijuana, and my grandchildren may even live in a world where it’s available at the corner café. If the rapid trends of the last few years are any indication, it appears the levy is breaking and weed is here to stay. However, legalization of marijuana can obscure the health risks of the drug. Tobacco, for example, remains legal but is still very deadly and downright harmful when used as directed, and while alcohol is legal and can be safely enjoyed in moderation, it may also cause disease or be lethal.

Let me be very clear: A discussion of the health risks of marijuana is not a moral judgment on someone who smokes pot – rather it’s my moral obligation as a physician to inform my audience of the dangers. Also, whether legalization makes sense or not is a policy-centric discussion involving the expenditure of law enforcement resources and tax dollars, incarceration and control of organized crime. Legalization and safety are two vastly different things. Following prohibition, alcohol was made legal in 1933 to defuse some of these complex problems and we are likely better off – however its health risks did not disappear.

This is not the last we will hear of this debate. We need to give marijuana the attention it deserves in considering whether its use is safe and advisable for us and our children. As a physician, I believe marijuana has a therapeutic role for patients with conditions such as cancer and chronic pain. I have covered this topic on previous shows and my friend Montel Williams has so eloquently and candidly talked about his agony from his MS symptoms and his campaign to legalize medical marijuana.

Modern medicine has a system for managing powerful drugs. We currently use potentially dangerous drugs like morphine because we carefully control them and have judged them to have a strong medical benefit that outweighs their negative risks.

But my bottom line is that I cannot condone any type of impairment for recreational purposes, especially when the consequences are diminished mental capacity and possibly even dependence.

A substance is potentially harmful if it takes away your ability to think clearly and participate in life fully, and marijuana does both these things. To use the alcohol analogy – just because it may be legal to get drunk doesn’t mean it’s wise, and intoxication carries grave risk. During my medical education, I was taught that one of the markers for addiction and dependence was the severity of cravings and withdrawal symptoms – the classic overwhelming heroin cravings or the tremors and disorientation of alcoholic detoxification. The hallmark of addiction is the repeated use of a substance despite negative consequences. That is the pathology of the disease of addiction and many marijuana users fit this criteria. The negative consequences are not necessarily drastic withdrawal symptoms, but instead include depression, lack of motivation, paranoia, memory loss and cardiovascular problems from the smoke.

As the trend towards legalizing this drug continues, we need to be aware of its risks and teach our children its proper place, which is in the pharmacy, not in the kitchen cabinet and certainly not in the school locker.




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Re: Dr. Oz Brings Reefer Madness Back to Daytime Television [Re: Camwritesgonzo] * 1
    #19238556 - 12/06/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Ever wonder why they're shown on the lineup with soap operas? They are soap operas. Soap operas require zero capacity for thought and are only really geared towards consumerist propaganda.




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Re: Dr. Oz Brings Reefer Madness Back to Daytime Television [Re: funkerdslr]
    #19238843 - 12/06/13 10:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

As opposed to a public service announcement saying "You watching at home should eat x amount of bananas per week, blah blah blah," without the sponsor name?


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Re: Dr. Oz Brings Reefer Madness Back to Daytime Television [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
    #19239525 - 12/07/13 04:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

these questions that the aptly name Oz says are in part of a new recognizance that is growing in the world. once this is frogged over in the next 40 years or so, mushrooms, dmt, those great thing that we are experiencing or study about will be given the right to our knowledge of benefits and risk. maybe the one order will be that as a world that all will have the freedom to use as a sacrement or in a peaceful conduct. maybe not 40, times moving faster! i think they have the gateway theory a lil backwords. magics bring you to the gate and weed is a way. a way after that, a discipline.


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Re: Dr. Oz Brings Reefer Madness Back to Daytime Television [Re: Caddilac]
    #19239956 - 12/07/13 09:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't need it. I want it.

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Re: Dr. Oz Brings Reefer Madness Back to Daytime Television [Re: lurkmode]
    #19240871 - 12/07/13 01:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

carl hart is trying so hard not to laugh in the video haha

look at the faces the demon doctor to the left of hart is making when he uses logic and reason

and after watching the actual segment, dr oz doesn't go "reefer madness," not even close. he mentions it can be addictive but it didn't seem he was anti-marijuana. i bet in his personal life, and as a physician, he leans more pro-legalization and pro-pot, he probably just had to put on a show for them soccer moms, and even then i bet his segment was too pro-pot for most of dem bitches. (he let carl hart speak for most of the time and he even mentioned marijuana has therepeutic value)


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Re: Dr. Oz Brings Reefer Madness Back to Daytime Television [Re: Jesus Cristo]
    #19242016 - 12/07/13 06:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

While Dr. Oz maybe a TV doctor that is against, we can applaud other famous doctors that have repealed their opinion.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/08/health/gupta-changed-mind-marijuana/


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    #19242275 - 12/07/13 07:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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While Dr. Oz maybe a TV doctor that is against, we can applaud other famous doctors that have repealed their opinion.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/08/health/gupta-changed-mind-marijuana/



Exactly. What sets Gupta apart from the right-wing endorsed anti-cannabis pill and misinformation pushing quacks is he admitted he made an error and he had the balls to go on his platform and buy back the specious propaganda he had pumped into the air. These other dickheads, including my small town moron physician's assistant (whom everybody calls "doctor"), are getting their clinics and hospitals some nice little kickbacks (ever notice those pens in the clinic that have pharmaceutical names on them?) for every so many scrips they write and certain amounts of samples they give away.


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Re: Dr. Oz Brings Reefer Madness Back to Daytime Television [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
    #19250289 - 12/09/13 01:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Those tv doctors get high on their celebrity and start to think they are infallible. Whatever pinheaded idea comes to them must be right because they thought it.


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