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Blasting Off
    #19237850 - 12/06/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Got 250mg of the spirit molecule on it's way. This is my first experience, so I know it's about to be mind blowing!

Any tips for a first time user? I hear I should get a freebase pipe or something to smoke it. Where can I get one? I don't really feel like constructing anything, would rather buy a pipe that's good to smoke my DMT.

However, if I don't get a specific pipe, I am thinking of getting a screen for my bong and mixing the DMT with some trees.

From what I've read, I shouldn't put the flame directly on the DMT, so I'm trying to figure out the most effective way of smoking it.

Also and feedback on what I can expect would be great :smile:
I'm a highly spiritual person, so I expect that this can be a great experience in connecting with the "higher power".


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Re: Blasting Off [Re: HigherPower420]
    #19237861 - 12/06/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

How much are you willing to shell on a pipe? the vaporgenie works great although slightly expensive. I would recommend against mixing it with pot, they never synergized for me. But you can throw down some inert herb with DMT on top and just hover the flame so as to not touch anything. Or you can infuse it on to herb, or go the crack pipe route.


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Re: Blasting Off [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19237868 - 12/06/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I was thinking of spending $5-20 on a pipe.

A lot of people say I shouldn't mix it with weed. Lol, so do you recommend not being high during the trip as well?


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Re: Blasting Off [Re: HigherPower420]
    #19237879 - 12/06/13 06:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I was thinking of spending $5-20 on a pipe.

A lot of people say I shouldn't mix it with weed. Lol, so do you recommend not being high during the trip as well?




Yeah i do not. Few times i've done it it just makes my heart rate skyrocket, makes everything fuzzy and hard to depict, and makes for a generally anxious trip. I recommend being totally sober for the clearest DMT trip. I think you can easily find an oil burner for 5-20


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Re: Blasting Off [Re: HigherPower420]
    #19237890 - 12/06/13 06:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

When i was stoned i personally couldnt embrace it as much as when i am sober. oh if you have an adapter for concentrates on a bong that works amaziiingly well. :heart: :eek:

dont use foil for smoking, that's for our hats man. :morefoil:


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Re: Blasting Off [Re: fatchillin]
    #19237912 - 12/06/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I hear that a bong is a good way to smoke DMT. So go to a head shop and look for a concentrate attachment?

Or should I find a pipe good for smoking concentrates?

ALSO how far should the flame be from the DMT to vaporize it without burning it up?


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Re: Blasting Off [Re: HigherPower420]
    #19237913 - 12/06/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Glass single shot bottle 2-5$
Coarse grade SCOTCH BRITE pads 3$
Glass drill bit 7-15$
Drill... Priceless lol, but most have a drill they own or can borrow.

Drill a hole in the bottom of the shot bottle, insert a piece of scotch brite into the neck, viola, "the machine". The best cheap DMT pipe. I burn my scotch brite, but nothing bad has ever smoked or burned off.


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Re: Blasting Off [Re: K1ngSp4de]
    #19238026 - 12/06/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

OP- sent you a message with more detail

a freebase pipe by far has given the best results.  clear straight glass, 'chore boy', spice... BAM!!!



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Re: Blasting Off [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #19238093 - 12/06/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ban the bulb! sucks for vapin Deems really.  The liquid deems rolls away from the heat, its not like say vapin meth.
If it were me and you smoke bud daily, I wouldnt see the problem with sandwiching your dose between herb.  Make sure the top layer is thicker because you want to use convection not combustion to heat it.  Deems has a low vape point.  A bit lower than say, weed.


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Re: Blasting Off [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19238130 - 12/06/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

ive had best results in  weed sandwich just baerely blackening the top of weed and hold forever...  after a couple times you will have it down and watching new people smoke pisses me off when they waste it all. also though i would take a slow breath while lighting and then kinda let it go out or cup it out and then take a big cool deep breath in hold and you will taste it all since it's a vapor it doesnt need to be that hot when u hit it if it's smoking it is just wasting away. at first i smoked alot cuz i didn't know how it worked now i can get  like 3-5 trips off the same amount. the key is keep it from burning or smoking like a bowl and put it out i it does and then hit right after it's out and that is th best hit.


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Re: Blasting Off [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19238134 - 12/06/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Ban the bulb! sucks for vapin Deems really.  The liquid deems rolls away from the heat, its not like say vapin meth.
If it were me and you smoke bud daily, I wouldnt see the problem with sandwiching your dose between herb.  Make sure the top layer is thicker because you want to use convection not combustion to heat it.  Deems has a low vape point.  A bit lower than say, weed.




Since you smoke bud daily, have you smoked DMT without bud?


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Re: Blasting Off [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19238278 - 12/06/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

straight glass with screen hands down


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Re: Blasting Off [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #19238450 - 12/06/13 09:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the replies everyone!

I am a Colorado medical smoker :smile: so yeah I pretty much smoke weed on a daily. I don't think the trip would be different either way, since my tolerance of weed is so high.

I'll look into finding a freebase pipe for the DMT. Or some sort of apparatus. I wouldn't mind having a different piece just for my DMT smokes, that way it can build its own resin, etc.

I have 250mg, and I know 40-50mg is good for a breakthrough experience. I think the first trip I might do with some trees, to get an idea of the trip.


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Re: Blasting Off [Re: HigherPower420]
    #19238770 - 12/06/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)





Pretty much the same thing as a straight pipe, but once you have the drill bit you can make a new pipe anytime and also not look like a crack head buying straight pipes. Smoother too since the vapor gets a chance cool before it his your lungs. I've had people have a hard time inhaling on a smaller belvedere vodka bottle, so I couldn't imagine a straight pipe. Plus you get alcohol from the deal.


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Re: Blasting Off [Re: HigherPower420]
    #19239294 - 12/07/13 01:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I hear that a bong is a good way to smoke DMT. So go to a head shop and look for a concentrate attachment?

Or should I find a pipe good for smoking concentrates?

ALSO how far should the flame be from the DMT to vaporize it without burning it up?





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Tolerance for dmt builds up instantly, like within 10 seconds or less.    To get the most out of it it would be best to take it ALL in at once. You can make your own "bong" easily enough, though I would personally use a glass pipe connected to it.

If you don't want to break through and just go on the shore-line so to speak, load only a little bit. Though it is sometimes suggested that one break through on the first time.  I don't know if I would of done as much as I had on my first time knowing what the experience would of been like.

Everyone's experience will slightly differ though there are some striking similarity's from all that I've read.

I also wouldn't fuck with the resin. Some people may tell you different but A LOT of people have noticed and reported that it can (usually does) lead to a bad experience.  There is something about oxidized dmt that gives off a bad vibe and experience.  I think everyone should know that -

That is my warning.  Also dmt isn't to be fucked with light hardheadedly. I believe You should probably become more familiar with what your getting into, but then again there are not to many words that can fully describe that.  I seriously don't think I could ever suggest that someone should take dmt.  I would never just hand some random person a pipe and be like "here!".  But that's just me, everyone has their own beliefs and experiences with it.

I suggest you go to the Dmt-Nexus to find out a lot more about dmt. But at the same time try not to let others experience's effect your state of mind when trying it. 


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Re: Blasting Off [Re: Biodiversity]
    #19239505 - 12/07/13 03:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I saw this post and thought I would like to help ya blast off.  Ever since having blasted off myself I have strongly believed that I will do anything I can to help others experience the beauty of a break through.  I posted this awhile back and I will share it again for you.  I don't remember who tipped me off to this method of smoking DMT but I feel it is by far the best way. 
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Get a small pipe screen.  I use the ones about the size of a dime.  Cut a small square of aluminum foil that is big enough to wrap the screen in.  Center the screen on top of the foil.  Measure out a good dose of DMT on a scale.  Personally I have found 45mg to be enough to take you really far away. Now put the DMT on top of the screen which should be centered on the foil.  Fold the foil in on itself, on top of the DMT and the screen.  Make sure everything is wrapped in the foil and no parts of the DMT or the screen are exposed.  Take you little DMT foil disk and place it in the bowl of your bong.  Take a finger and ever so gently press the foil disk just hard enough to make it sort of cup up and take the form of the bottom of your bong bowl.  You are trying to cause the foil disk to cup up enough to cover the stem hole.  You can test it out and see if you did it right by pretending to hit your bong.  Don't really light anything just put your mouth down and pull air through like you would if you were hitting it.  If you have fixed everything up right so far then at this point you should get some air bubbling through the bong but there should be a noticeable resistance to air flow because you have in effect slightly clogged your bong by blocking the air flow with your foil disk.  Now if you have created a good resistance to air flow in your bong with your foil disk you can move on to the next part.  If you have gotten that resistance yet then keep fucking with it until you get it right.

Once you get it right pull your stem and bowl out of your bong and flip the bowl upside down.  Get the now cupped foil disk out of your bowl without changing it's cupped shape in any way.  You might have to tap you bowl on a table top or something but remember you do not want to change the shape of your now cupped disk at all. 

Once you have dislodged your cupped foil disk use a small tack or sewing needle or safety pin to place 5 or 6 ever so tiny pin prick holes on the bottom of your cupped foil disk.  Make sure that you poke these holes on the bottom side because you are going to put that disk back in the bong and heat it up.  Put that disk in your bowl with the pin pokes down facing the stem the cupped side up.  Get your lighter light it up. 

    Smoke the bong just like you would if you were hitting bud.  Hold the lighter over the cupped foil and hit it hard.  The concept here is that you are heating the DMT in the foil without actually exposing the spirit molecule to the flame.  The DMT will melt and vaporize in the foil.  The screen is in place so when the DMT melts it is not just going to run out the bottom of your pin prick holes but it will stay on the screen.  The holes in the foil on the bottom of your cupped disk allow the DMT vapour to escape as you create a sort of vacume from the because the foil is cupped and block the air flow.  The bong water makes the nasty DMT vapour a lot easier to keep in your lungs. 

    Smoking it like this is a great way to get a nice big dose real fast.  Just keep hitting it until you can't hit it anymore.  Believe me there will come a point where you are not physically able to hit it anymore.  Just keep hitting it until you reach that point.
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Re: Blasting Off [Re: Willy Wonka]
    #19239569 - 12/07/13 05:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I would suggest against smoking the dmt with weed.  But be sure to have a bowl packed for when you come back.  I love smoking weed on the comedown of dmt for some reason.  Its a nice way to mull your experience over after you get back.


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Re: Blasting Off [Re: Kief Ledger]
    #19239837 - 12/07/13 08:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

THanks for all of the replies people. I'm still looking into how I'm gonna do this.

I've been sort of training my mind for this experience lol. Looking at other's experiences, researching on what I'm getting in to, etc.

I'd still like to hear any tips, experiences, and all.

Lol quote]Kief Ledger said:
I would suggest against smoking the dmt with weed.  But be sure to have a bowl packed for when you come back.  I love smoking weed on the comedown of dmt for some reason.  Its a nice way to mull your experience over after you get back.




Yeah I think Imma have a blunt rolled when I come back down lol. I'm gonna need to comprehend things haha.

So, if one is to stray away from res DMT, then how should I smoke it? Should it be something disposable? Should I get a small cheap pipe for one time use?


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Re: Blasting Off [Re: HigherPower420]
    #19240617 - 12/07/13 12:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You can clean the glass pipe each time, though I am sure some don't even bother doing it.  I can't say for sure one way or the other if it will matter. I would highly suggest not collecting the dmt resin to reuse though. Also I use a glass chillum and connect that to a home made water filter, or bong.

I personally found a plain bowl full of incinerated ash from cannabis works well, just stir in the dmt. I've used a torch but I think something akin to clean burning match sticks/flat-head tooth picks would work well in distributing the heat to the material.  It is also known that mediating beforehand will be of benefit. An while I haven't tried it, there are these teacher plants that are said to help ease one into the experience when mixed with dmt.  I heard it will make it last longer but overall make it a smoother experience, somehow. I like looking stuff up about ayahuasca before hand too, some of the guided chants by the shamans I believe may be of some benefit.  I don't know too much about dmt, I've choosen to use it seldomly (same with other psychedelics), but this is what I have to offer. 


I guess my last advice again would be not to let other peoples experiences or day to day life effect your mind set going into it.  It's best to go in with a clear mind. If you have to wait a bit to mentally prepare yourself, it will probably be worth doing so.


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Re: Blasting Off [Re: Biodiversity]
    #19240912 - 12/07/13 01:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

My friend uses a meth pipe (only for DMT) for his and he says it works really well.


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