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Stranger Registered: 12/06/13 Posts: 6 Last seen: 10 years, 1 month |
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Before I begin: If you really don't want to read this background information and everything leading up to my question you can skip to the end (I edited and wrote a summarized part because I was getting no responses), however, I would not only appreciate it but I would also recommend it if you want to be able to give an accurate response to my situation.
Hey what's up guys. I've been thinking a lot about psychedelics lately and have come to a conclusion. I want a good amount of feedback considering this could potentially be life altering, and this is not something I can talk about to the people that I know. On top of that, I've been browsing shroomery for quite some time now but never made an account. I actually decided to do lucy based on several posts and trip reports I read on here. Btw this will be somewhat long. Before I reach my conclusion, I'm going to give you a full background on me so you can more aware of my situation when giving me feedback. Ultimately, not everyone is the same and everyone should make different choices based on their situations. Growing up, I was a muslim. I still am today and still believe 100% in my religion, however this is not the issue at hand. I was sheltered as a child, due to very strict and religious parents. Even through high school when I started to rebel a little bit, I still had a curfew and felt trapped. Fast forward a few years to now (4th year college) and I'm pretty free. I kept pushing and pushing and earned my freedom little by little. My parents are still religious and strict (meaning if they find out I do any drugs, it could be bad) however, they've learned that I am an adult now and that they need to let me be. I've been smoking pot for about 4-5 years now, and drinking on and off for maybe 4 years as well. This year I finally tried my first hard drugs: molly (which didn't really work, but that's a different story) and lsd (it's been about a month and a half). The first thing I tried was lsd. Me and 2 friends each bought 2 tabs each. We took them, got dilated pupils and felt all the threshold feelings (brightness (but not too obvious), very child like energy, just extreme joy.) The feelings were pure bliss. I felt on top of the world and i described it as the best feeling in the world at the time. Also time flew by way too quickly. However, we didn't really get visuals at first. It's about 6 hours in and we were pretty happy with the feelings, however also very disappointed. We thought LSD would be a lot more than it was (considering it didn't induce visuals) and I also think we were trying to confirm to reality too much. Anyways around this time, we called up one of my friends and he came over. He saw our eyes, and we described the situation (no color trails, geometrical patterns and such) and he told us we either had RCs or it was very weak acid. I trust the girl I got it from and she sent me several mssgs of different people who tripped balls on the same shit (all took 2 tabs.) Apparently so many people were buying it in 2s that she ended up making a deal for people who only wanted 2 tabs. So anyways, our friend tells us that we shouldn't of spent our peak playing soccer and running outside and that we should have sat down, turned on music and just "tripped out." At this point, we didn't know what "tripping" meant. We go back into the apartment (Dark, blacklight posters we bought for the trip and a blacklight) and it was a very comfortable setting with people we were all comfortable with. It was 3 of us who were trying LSD, 1 sitter, and we had that 1 friend who came for a good hour or so. So we decided to smoke weed at this point, knowing that our peak has passed and oh my.. The third one of us (always paranoid about his parents catching him) decided not to smoke weed and claims that he didn't "trip." I know him very well and I have many reasons to believe that he actually was tripping inside of his own head but he didn't realize due to him expecting something else. So me and my other friend, started to trip out and started learning how we could trip (by letting go and the like.) My trip came to me by that poster (the only thing that was shifting) but I was tripping hard. We listened to Voyage and it felt like when we looked at trippy pictures, movies would be made that went a long with the music. I had amazing CEVs and time flew by so quickly. The entire time though, it was only these posters or images that would shift (when we would stare at them.) Anyways point being we tripped balls but it still wasn't as intense as we thought it was (although that experience opened up our eyes to the potential of lucy, considering we caught a glimpse.) I understood why we needed a sitter but at the same time I didn't think it was necessary considering how I felt. I felt like if I really had to function, I could, but that instead "letting go of reality" was a lot funner. Well recently I got arrested and charged with a dui (which sucks.) My parents found out that I smoke because I admitted. (Even though they've "caught" me times before with grinders n shit, but they chose to be oblivious as I lied way around it all). It's been about a month since that and a lot has changed (but I still have my "freedom" and they've been back to normal for like 2 weeks now.) For one, I don't have driving privileges. For two, both of my other friends have changed and insist that I change as well. The first one also caught by his parents smoking (the one that didn't trip) and he said he's done fucking around with drugs, he know's its wrong religiously and he's done smoking weed too. The second one, was planning on doing lucy with a second time (we had it planned for a week after I got my dui, but when I got my dui, it all changed.) Anyways, the second one just recently "got his faith back" and is done with everything as well. So all that is left in the group is me. I've spent a considerable amount thinking about this. I've stopped drinking recently and I've also taken a break from smoking. I've realized that I started out using drugs to escape reality and it formed into a habit. For someone who only wanted to fuck around a little , it carried over for quite some time. I still want to have fun with drugs, but deep down inside I know that it's wrong (according to my beliefs) and on top of that I really need to stop smoking in order to get my shit together. If I want to head to med school like I truly want, I really need to dedicate all my time towards that because I've been slacking. I need to get a job, I need to do research, I need to shadow, volunteer, do extra curriculars and most importantly, I need to live the life the sober way, get my shit together and mature into the best man that I can possible be. I need to say good bye to drugs if not permanently then at least until I get all of my shit together and get my life to the point that I want to be. In the end, drugs will not give me true happiness if I'm not where I want to be in life. All of this has been a product of beliefs I've had over the years, all my experiences leading up to today and deep introspection. So here's the wrap up information and the question: I will be done with final exams next weekend and I have a dui intervention program that week. I really want to do Lucy one more time and actually experience it correctly. As far as my mindset goes, It's clear. I know what happened has already happened and that I can't change that. I don't hold any negative feelings with this and I am very happy with life at the moment. Next semester will also be a semester where I have to step my shit up significantly. Between the dui program end date (Sunday at 6pm) and that next Friday (I go on a trip to a religious camp which is about a 10 hour drive,) I would like to do lucy. I know myself, and I've been changing a lot in the past few weeks, and I know that its seems like I'm very close to letting go of drugs (haven't done anything in a while.) I know for a fact that if I don't do lucy in the time frame I'm about to give you, It probably won't happen ever again. I first thought that I could do it Sunday night into the next day, but I'll probably have to work that monday so I came up with an idea. I want to trip out alone on the 19th (Thursday Night,) pull an all nighter (having slept a little throughout the day to have energy) and then that following morning I'll sleep in the car on our way to the campsite. I'm slightly worried about 2 or 3 things. First, let's describe the setting. I'll be at home. My house is pretty big and at night time, my parents do not bother nor go near me if I'm in my room or if I'm downstairs (also my area.) Secondly, they will be sleeping. Also my best friend (who will be sober) will be 2 doors down and probably be up till at least 2-3 am that night in case I need anything. My neighborhood is a very nice and quiet area with pretty much no cops ever. There are already beautiful lights set up for the holiday and I'm assuming there will be many more by the 19th. I also have a park in my neighborhood. I was thinking of dosing around 10:30ish (probably closer to 11) because my dad usually isn't asleep until 11:30-12:30. By the time my trip starts, my parents will be asleep & they will be up around 7ish. And I'm not sure yet but we'll either be leaving in the morning round 10 am or we'll be leaving around 2pm. I then wanted to spend roughly the entirety of the trip (or at least most of it) walking around the neighborhood. It will be cold, so I will bundle up accordingly. All I'll have with me is something to write on (if i choose to bring it), maybe a rave led light toy thingy and headphones/phone. I would spend some time in my house, however, I fear the paranoia of my parents waking up (even though they shouldn't unless I am very loud) would get to me and ruin my trip. I'll just walk around the neighborhood (there's a nice bench I can sit on) and reflect on my life. I can also go to the park. & I could possibly go to my friends house (however if I do this, I'd rather keep this trip to myself, and you guys I guess.) & I would love to watch the sun rise. I will also have a gram that I'll buy and probably turn into a pre-rolled joint or two (with a tolerance of about 0) which I can spark up to re-initiate the trip at least twice during the comedown. This way I can have a crazy last experience with Lucy, a crazy last experience for Mary, and the introspection will blend perfectly with the religious campsite. I'll be spending a week there in which I can gather my thoughts and think about what just happened. (Also being there means I won't have access to any drugs except the possibility of weed (which I'm assuming at that point I'll choose not to indulge in), which will be a nice way to ease my way back into sobriety.) And then I can pull the last pieces of the puzzle together in the process of me getting my shit back together. Also I have a different source for Lucy this time. This one is a lot better due to my friend actually having gotten it from this guy herself and saying his stuff is legit legit whereas the other time I got it from my reg weed dealer off of spontaneity. Will I get bored if I have to spend that much time outside? & will I be able to for example keep myself in my room around around 7 or 8, if I need to be back home before my parents wake up. Will I be able to trip on my own? Will I be able to function if I take 2 tabs once again? (my friend said that 1 tab of his last stuff gave her decent visuals, but she is a lot smaller than I am) What do you guys think? I know this is a lot of information but I felt it was necessary. Summary: I've only had 1 psychedelic experience which was about a month and a half ago. 2 tabs, probably some bunk acid. Only felt threshold feelings and didn't get visuals until hour 6 where we decided to smoke weed. Tripped the hell out to poster/trippy images as they played movies to the music. I have to get my shit together and stop doing drugs at least for the mean time. Unfortunately, I only have one opportunity to try lucy one last time or I probably won't ever take it again or if I do it won't be for a very long time. Found a really good connect. Here's what I want to do. I want to sleep throughout the day thursday and then take it at night. I was thinking of dosing 2 tabs again around 10:30 that way by the time Its hit me my parents should be asleep. Parents are very strict and I can't have them know I'm intoxicated in any way what so ever. They just recently caught me smoking weed, and although they're chill now, if they catch any obvious intoxication they will probably question me. (I just recently "gave up" drugs but am considering doing Lucy one more time to give me that push to make the changes I really want to do) Anyways, I have a big house and the basement is technically mine and I also have my own room. Both of which I will be extremely safe in, and my parents won't bother me, unless I have very loud and draw attention to myself. I want to trip alone at night (even though my best friend lives 2 doors down.) Also if I can keep my judgement and functionality at least to a point where I can walk out of the house quietly (have done this many times to smoke weed) then I'll have the entirety of my neighborhood to explore. Decently sized, very nice and very quiet and will also be filled with lights. Has a bench I like to sit and think on with a good view or sky as well as a park. My parents will be asleep by around 11 (plus or minus an hour) and wont be up until around 6:45-7:15am so that'll give me quite a few hours before I have to get myself back in my room. At this point, I'll be cool to roam the house however if I'm still intoxicated, I'm going to just stay in my room and fiddle around with my laptop/ipod. I won't be leaving for my car trip (not driving obv) until around 2 pm. This gives me enough time to sober up completely and possibly even sleep a little, if I choose. I'm worried about dilated pupils as those are a dead give away. Other than that the only thing I have to worry about is losing my functionality, and an altered sense of noise to the point in which I get really loud or make loud noises and wake up the family. Or the case where they wake up and ask where I'm at (0.01% chance of occurring, and if it does, I'll have previously lead up to the fact that I'll be pulling an all nighter, so I can say I'm either at my friend, or walking around thinking about the "trouble I got myself into and my life or some shit" so I should be cool on this part). Honestly as long as I'm still function-able and my judgement doesn't become too shitty, I should be cool. Even though I have done acid, it being a weak experience, this 2 tab dose I might take would probably be quite a bit stronger. I also know how to go about the experience so it will also work better. I will also have a joint or two in which I can light up and re initiate the trip. So I don't know if I should just take one tab, or take two and see my luck. Plus even if they are strong, I wouldn't expect 2 tabs to be that high of a dose anyways. The only reason I don't want to take one tab, is I'm pretty confident that this will probably be my last time fucking around with LSD so I'd rather have a slightly overwhelming but still manageable experience than to be underwhelmed once again. I want this to be a completely introspective experience and considering I'll be going on a 10 hour drive that next morning to a religious camp type ordeal, it'll be nice to do the thinking, and then sleep in the car. Afterwards, I'll be in the "perfect" environment to integrate and think about what just happened as well as start the shift that I want to produce in myself. Considering I also want to get my shit together and become a little more religious, it'll be a very nice transition in my opinion. Tell me what do you guys think? Edited by MysteriousStoner (12/06/13 09:22 PM)
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Registered: 06/10/13 Posts: 22 Last seen: 3 years, 7 months |
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If you dose at 10:30 and it's good acid, you will be tripping well past 7am dude. I also suggest not taking it if you're going to be paranoid about your parents waking up.
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( ಥـْـِـِـِـْಥ) Registered: 11/26/13 Posts: 1,879 Loc: United Kingdom Last seen: 1 year, 1 month |
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LSD is a very chaotic psychedelic. If you have good LSD, 1-2 tabs will be enough, and 3+ tabs will FLOOR you. On a single tab of about 100mcg-200mcg, you're down the rabbit hole pretty much. Most people, including myself, get LSD in tabs that have rubbed off a lot of LSD to its surroundings, basically they degenerate and become underdosed. People who take tabs and get weak effects sometimes conclude that they're naturally tolerant to LSD, LSD is weak in general, or like they can handle LSD, etc. Basically, I'm saying the LSD you got for your first experience had degenerated and it was underdosed. LSD is a very powerful substance, and so many people think they've done a good amount of LSD when in fact they haven't, which is why you should take all information you see with a grain of salt.
I feel like it is a very inappropriate setting to be doing LSD, but considering your circumstances and how this could be your last chance, I see no other option. I said this just now on another thread: NONE OF US CAN TELL YOU WHAT TO DO/WHERE TO BE FOR YOUR TRIP, we CAN tell you what's worked for us, but it's all up to you dude. We can't stress enough how important set + setting is. You want to be in a familiar environment, a safe sanctuary. On a mind-altering substance, you are vulnerable, you are disconnected with time and space, and unpredictable. Keep this in mind when deciding where to go/when to do it. Where ever and when ever gives YOU the most positive vibrations! As for what to do, when you are on LSD, anything can manifest in your mind. Meaning, DO WHATEVER you need to do to make your trip the best experience it can be. If you need to put in headphones for music, do it. If you need to find a forest, do it. If you need to be on a roof and feel the wind, do it. As soon as you start resisting that psychedelic power, you'll go into a bad trip. Remember, the mind has infinite potential and imagination has no boundaries!
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Stranger Registered: 12/06/13 Posts: 6 Last seen: 10 years, 1 month |
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Swampy:
I appreciate your comment. I feel like I did a much better job and explaining my situation in the summary if you wouldn't reading that addition at the end. & I don't have to be done tripping by then, I just need to be at a point where I can keep to myself in my house so it's not obvious I'm on acid. If I stay in my room, I'll be cool. They won't knock on the door or anything. I'm just worried I get those "I need to get out of here, can't stay in this room, feelings." My room is very plain, no posters, and is very comfortable. I also have 2 different windows, for 2 different views. To be honest, my laptop and some headphones is all I need to be entertained. Music, movies, weavesilk, what's more to ask for? lol Edited by MysteriousStoner (12/06/13 09:58 PM)
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Stranger Registered: 12/06/13 Posts: 6 Last seen: 10 years, 1 month |
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Dat:
You're right about the degeneration and underdosed part. We opened the tin foil maybe three or four times, and other factors could have lead to it. I will definitely not be taking three to be honest. The LSD we got was spontaneity because my weed dealer was selling LSD for the first time (I'm assuming she got a really good deal and decided to give it a shot.) These tabs are however from a legit lsd dealer and he said there's 170ug in the last batch he had, but I doubt there's actually that much. What I do know is my friend (somewhat of a lightweight) took 1 tab and had mild visuals as she described it. She said she spent 2 hours looking at her kitchen tiles swirl around and what not. As far as being in a familiar and safe place, that is my home. AS long as I can keep enough judgement in tact to know how to act around my parents if the situation arises. Judging from my last experience though, I can function better on LSD then I can when I'm high and I've gotten around them stoned hundreds of times. Also I don't know what will come to my head during the trip, but other than walking around at night and tripping balls the only other thing I'd want to do is just sit there, and trip out to my laptop/music or close my eyes and enter my mind. I literally did that for the entirety of the trip after we smoked the weed. And although my LSD experience was weak, the weed definitively showed us the mindfuck capabilities (don't remember how much it lasted but I think it was a good 4-7 hours. The amount it lasted made me start thinking that for some reason LSD hits me late and that I peaked later on. Like that's how long that shit lasted but anyways It went from no visuals to straight pictures calling me and becoming a straight movie. I had the most intense CEVs I've ever thought was possible. Every color and every color in between was being seen my be. Along with shapes, numbers and all sorts of things. it was truly beautiful. Some moments I was quite overwhelmed with the mind fucks, but I just accepted it for what it was and I was glad that our trip happened like that because I said that it was intro to lucy meaning next time If I tripped I had at least some sort of experience so I wouldn't just be straight overwhelmed to insanity. Edited by MysteriousStoner (12/06/13 09:55 PM)
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Hueman Registered: 07/22/13 Posts: 8,702 |
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Expect to trip for 12 hours. Good L will have you seeing slow morphing visuals and patterns all the next day if you dont get sleep. Sleep is key to end the trip completely. Also weed seems to enhance so if you smoke weed it throws you in pretty intense visuals and mindfuck
Edited by theRAPeutic (12/06/13 09:39 PM)
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Stranger Registered: 12/06/13 Posts: 6 Last seen: 10 years, 1 month |
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I'd take it earlier however I definitely don't want to be starting my trip when my parents are awake. I'd much rather have to deal with the possibility of their presence around hour 7-8. I'll be ending my trip with sleep If I manage to end tripping before I have to leave around 2 pm. I have to be up by 1 pm (to get ready.) However, even if I don't get sleep up to this point, I'll be embarking onto a 8-10 hour drive in which I can fall asleep. Also when I reach my destination, I'll have maybe an hour or two to relax If I want, and then I can sleep again so I'm ready for the religious camp to start Saturday. Friday is literally just the drive there, relax and sleep day. I figured it would work well as the recovery/reflect day after L.
Edited by MysteriousStoner (12/06/13 09:57 PM)
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Stranger Registered: 12/06/13 Posts: 6 Last seen: 10 years, 1 month |
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will the trips hours extend if i smoke? & generally if i have no tolerance at what point should i smoke? Also now that I think of it, will I be able to keep the giggles to a low level? Because laughing hysterically at the top of my lungs would be a horrible idea. Generally speaking, if I can still know in my head that I have parents that are in the house and that I need to keep quiet, I should be good. I just don't know if the acid will override it. Considering my first dose is weak, i'm just being cautious so it doesn't end up being 100x stronger than what I first experienced for example.
Edited by MysteriousStoner (12/07/13 10:46 AM)
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Stranger Registered: 12/06/13 Posts: 6 Last seen: 10 years, 1 month |
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Ok so I've pretty much concluded that I will be taking 2 tabs that weekend. I'm setting things up with the dealer today, I'll tell him I've only had 1 experience and if he suggests 2 then I'll take 2, if he says no only take 1, then I'll do that. My friend whose done acid quite a few times says that this is her best connect and that he has the best shit, ect.. I was telling my friend and he said be careful man, acid has fucked up a lot of people I know and it can change you psychologically and shit and it's kind of scaring me. So now I'm kind of worried
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